City Council
Regular MeetingMartinsville, VA · May 18, 2022
Minutes
May 18, 2022 Budget Work Session
A budget work session of the Council of the City of Martinsville, Virginia, was held on
May 18, 2022, in Council Chambers, Municipal Building, at 6:00PM to conduct a budget work
session with Mayor Kathy Lawson presiding. Other Council Members present included Vice
Mayor Jennifer Bowles, Council Member Chad Martin, Council Member Tammy Pearson and
Council Member Danny Turner. Staff present included City Manager Leon Towarnicki, City
Attorney Eric Monday, Finance Director Mandy McGhee, and Crystal Ferguson of the Finance
Department. School Superintendent Zeb Talley, Travis Clemons, Executive Director of
Administrative Services, and Angilee Downing, Assistant Superintendent of Instruction were
also present.
Mayor Lawson opened the meeting. At the last meeting, Council voted to award the
Library an additional $6,571 for staff pay raises with a contingency if Henry County and
Patrick County voted for it then Martinsville would give the Library the full amount they
requested. There is no July 4 celebration which frees up $3500. There was a motion and a
second on personal property taxes as well as the increase requested by the Public Defender’s
office, both of which will be discussed after the schools.
Mayor Lawson questioned Dr. Talley if capital requests could be purchased using
ESSER funds. Clemmons explained that those funds could only be used on capital projects
directly related to COVID such as the HVAC system. With ESSER, many things have changed
from previous ESSER stipulations. Lawson asked for confirmation that the school cannot
supplement an educator who falls under SOQ or Title funding with ESSER but there appears
to be a loophole that could supplement the principals. Clemmons said it can be difficult to
use those funds because of the fund requirements. $8million in ESSER funds must be used
within 2 years, most has not been spent but some of those funds have been allotted. There is
only $700,000 remaining from the $4million ESSER2 funds. Clemmons shared details of why
the ESSER funds may or may not be used towards various projects. Lawson asked Dr. Talley
how they determined student “learning loss” and how the funding towards the loss of learning
is determined. Angilee Downing explained that they are comparing 3 years of data but that
the study is not complete. Vice Mayor Bowles questioned substitute teachers and sick leave
and how ESSER funds could be applied to those. Clemmons explained federal funding the
schools receive as the poverty rates grow along with free meals and Community Eligibility
Program. Lawson asked, hypothetically if the City needed $350,000, would the schools
anticipate that there are some areas in the approved reasoning from ESSER funds that would
supplant City funds. Clemmons said he would be willing to work with the state to see what
options they have. If those funds fall through then the school can come back to Council and
request those funds at a later date as they have done in the past. Dr. Talley asked for
confirmation that Council is planning to cut the school budget by $350,000. Mayor Lawson
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said it was not a “cut” and if those expenses are not covered by ESSER funds then the school
can come back and request those funds from Council when needed.
Mayor Lawson requested a 5-minute recess.
Council returned to the work session. Mayor Lawson explained that there was a motion
by Council Member Martin and a second by Vice Mayor Bowles to provide half the funds
requested the Public Defender’s office. Martin asked for a “place holder” until the next Council
meeting. Lawson says it sets a horrible precedent. The Public Defender’s office does fabulous
work and they are not appreciated for what they do but they are a state agency, if Council
starts providing supplement income for one agency this year then others will request it next
year and years to come. Lawson questions why the state is not stepping up. Martin asked
about adding to the legislative agenda for an attorney to work with the Public Defender’s office
for loan forgiveness. Monday said he was unsure if that option was available to the Public
Defender’s office. Pearson agrees with Lawson, while she respects the work the Public
Defender’s office does, the funding should come from the state. With no further discussion,
the question called with Turner, Lawson and Martin in favor. Mayor Lawson asked for
Council’s vote to provide the funds to the Public Defender’s office, motion dies with a 3-2 vote:
Bowles and Martin voted in favor while Pearson, Lawson and Turner were opposed.
Next for discussion is the personal property tax. Pearson asked to get more information
from Commissioner of Revenue Ruth Easley prior to making a decision. Lawson invited Easley
to explain the $200,000 that she says is not included in the budget numbers. Easley
explained that by looking at the proposed budget, it appears that she is unable to get any
confirmation as to how that number was arrived but it appears it was based merely on the
conversation with the Finance Department regarding the vehicles that are increasing from last
year that were priced with a pricing guide and does not include older vehicles, boats, RVs,
trailers, ambulances, buses, or other multiple items listed in that personal property list. By
backing into the revenue that was actually budgeted, it appears they are using a value of
$47,826,087 as the assessment value in the budget. Easley anticipates for personal property
taxes, she will be assessing $90,552,144. Easley explained that the revenue is there, it just
hasn’t been property allocated because there are no appropriate discussions between
departments. City Manager Towarnicki explained that work on the budget began in January
and was presented a month ago with some information being put together late March and
early April. Obviously the deeper you go into the fiscal year, the easier it becomes to put
numbers together because you are dealing with actuals instead of projections. In regards to
the numbers they have in the budget versus what Easley is talking about, he certainly
understands how a difference like that can occur. When they do the budget on revenue, they
look at what’s actually collected. They understand assessments and they know generally what
the trends are but they look at what actually hits the books and what is actually collected.
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When doing the budget and looking at personal property revenue, the 2022 actual was
$1,054,850 and they were projecting $1,100,000 which is pretty close. The information they
were getting was that there would be approximately $200,000-$250,000 more in assessments
the next year so that number was bumped up to $1,300,000. Easley explained when the
budget is approved, she will still be 5 months away from doing the assessments which is why
it is important to have conversations between departments. Lawson explained that based on
the information provided by Easley in her initial PowerPoint, if council chose to tax on 80% of
personal property values then that would be $342,658. She is concerned for the citizen on a
fixed income who may receive a tax bill 30% higher than last year who will have to decide how
to pay the City and still provide for their family. Easley believes that those individuals are not
necessarily going to receive a 30% average increase, some bills will actually decrease. Easley
explained that if Council goes up to 20% that it will not cause a hole in the budget. Per
Lawson, by assessing 80% of personal property values, that will allow a $342,658.55
reduction in the personal property tax. Easley explained that Council would be required to
adopt a resolution approving that reduction. Council Member Turner made the original
motion of 5% which was seconded by Council Member Martin. Turner made a motion to
amend that total to 20% which was seconded by Council Member Pearson. Martin did not
accept the amendment. Martin voted in favor of 5% with all other Council Members opposed;
the motion of 5% of dies. Turner made a motion for a 20% reduction, motion was seconded by
Pearson with the following vote: Vice Mayor Bowles expressed her concern again that this
change is a temporary placeholder and as Easley stated, some citizens may not see a change
this year. She feels that they should keep this money for next year. She feels they are being
short sighted in how this will affect future budgets. Lawson wants to make the residents as
comfortable as possible with what they owe this year versus last year. Vice Mayor Bowles
called the question with all Council Members voting in favor. Council voted in favor of the
20% with a 4-1 vote: Pearson, Bowles, Lawson and Turner, aye and Martin, nay. Martin said
he voted against the 20% because as Council Members, they can’t live day-to-day and they
need to consider where the City will be going with reversion, he is not opposed to helping the
citizens but felt that 20% was too high.
City Manager Towarnicki explained that the $3,500 in the budget for the July 4th event
will remain in the budget because it will need to be paid in April for next year’s event.
City Manager Towarnicki discussed ARPA funding and infrastructure needs, municipal
building repairs, street work, and several utility projects.
Pearson asked if it had been decided how much of the ARPA funds would be set aside,
Lawson confirmed that it was discussed but a decision is not required at this time. Pearson
asked when the City would start seeing revenue from Commonwealth Crossing, Towarnicki
said it’s a revenue sharing project so once the development costs the county puts in are
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covered, then the City and County will share revenue on a 1/3 and 2/3 basis. Pearson
requests a total for reversion attorneys be plugged into the budget so it can be monitored. City
Attorney Monday said given the way the reversion process has turned out and with Henry
County delaying the process in every way, he believes putting a “place holder” in the budget
that Council may or may not abide by is simply giving another tactical advantage to Henry
County so they can claim that Martinsville is spending far more then they budgeted. Monday
advises Council to continue with the same payment and budgeting method that they have
used before. Pearson asked about paving and VDOT reimbursement and Uptown
maintenance. Pearson asked about the budget related to fuel costs, Towarnicki explained that
while they try to be conservative on the budget, they do allow some cushion but if prices
continue to rise then there is a good possibility that the City will go over that budget.
There being no further questions or discussion, Vice Mayor Bowles made the motion to
adjourn at 8:00pm.
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Karen Roberts, Clerk of Council Kathy Lawson, Mayor
Agenda
AGENDA--CITY COUNCIL -- CITY OF MARTINSVILLE, VIRGINIA
Council Chambers – Municipal Building
CITY COUNCIL BUDGET WORK SESSION SCHEDULE
Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 6:00pm – 8:00pm
Wednesday, May 18, 2022 – 6:00pm – Council Chambers
1. Conduct a budget work session on the upcoming FY23
budget.
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