Common Council
Regular MeetingMiddletown, CT · October 18, 2011
Minutes
SPECIAL MEETING OF THE COMMON COUNCIL
MIDDLETOWN, CONNECTICUT
OCTOBER 18, 2011
Special Meeting A special meeting of the Common Council of the City of Middletown was held in
the Council Chamber of the Municipal Building, on Tuesday, October 18, 2011
at 6:30 p.m.
Present Deputy Mayor Joseph E. Bibisi, Council Members Thomas J. Serra, Ronald P.
Klattenberg, Philip J. Pessina, Gerald E. Daley, Robert P. Santangelo, Hope P.
Kasper, James B. Streeto,Grady L. Faulkner, Jr., Deborah A. Kleckowski, David
Bauer, and Daniel Drew; Corporation Counsel William Howard; Sergeant-at-
Arms Officer Michael Thompson, and Council Clerk Marie O. Norwood.
Absent Mayor Sebastian N. Giuliano.
Also Present Four members of the public
Meeting Called to Order The Deputy Mayor calls the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. and asks Councilman
Drew to lead the public in the Pledge of Allegiance.
Call of Meeting Read The Call of Meeting was read and accepted. Deputy Mayor Bibisi declares the
Call a Legal Call and the Meeting a Legal Meeting.
Public Hearing Opens The Acting Chair opens the public hearing on the agenda item at 6:32 p.m. He
asks if anyone wishes to address the agenda item.
Public Hearing Closes The Acting Chair, seeing no one coming forward to address the agenda item,
closes the public hearing at 6:32 p.m.
Agenda Item 4-1
The Acting Chair recognizes Councilman Serra who reads the resolution in its
entirety and moves it for approval; his motion is seconded by Councilman
Streeto. The Acting Chair calls for the vote. Council Members Klattenberg and
Bauer ask to address the issue before a vote is called.
Councilman Klattenberg uses this as an opportunity to discuss the work of the
subcommittee and Councilwoman Kasper and Councilman Bauer will have an
opportunity to report on the subcommittee as well. The subcommittee came up
with a proposal and consultant and it relates to the request and the reason
everyone should support the request to override the veto. He hands out a copy
of the resume of Douglas Rae provided to the subcommittee by Mr. Rae; he was
asked to meet with the subcommittee which has met on two separate occasions
and his resume fits perfectly with the goals of the subcommittee and the Council.
He highlights aspects of the resume. His area of expertise is municipal
organization and there is a long list of accomplishments which was paired down
for us. He is suited for the investigation. He hands out the final contract
language the subcommittee has come up with to move the project forward and if
it gets approved, the Council Clerk states it can be published on October 20 and
the contract signed on November 4.
Councilman Bibisi, as Acting Chair, states before we get the subcommittee to
speak, he states he takes the position that this is a Charter violation; the
resolution, to whit, the Council investigation, in the Charter, the provision states
the Council shall investigate and the appropriation request enables outside
consultants to conduct an investigation. We are conducting an investigation on
moving departments and if it is in violation of the Charter could the Finance
Director release the funds if he is given guidance that he could not release the
funds. Corporation Council Howard states that is difficult to answer off the top of
my head; I suppose if given those instructions and he had something to sort out,
I don’t think conclusively he could say that. He states he would consult with the
City Attorney. Councilman Klattenberg states I still have the floor and if you look
at the contract language, it is not a violation of the charter; what the Council and
subcommittee is proposing is Professor Rae assisting the Council in their
investigation. It is not being handed over and he will come up with a report to
assist the Council and in turn as a subcommittee we will inform the Council so
they are directly involved with the investigation. It is not solely being handed
over to a consultant.
The Acting Chair recognizes Councilman Bauer who defers to Councilwoman
Kasper. She states we have the authority in the Charter and the procedure to
go ahead the process is silent and we thought it is important to keep the Council
involved and the consultant will be assisting us. This person was interviewed by
our committee and has excellent investigative skills and I will support this.
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Councilman Bauer states my report to follow up with what Councilman
Klattenberg asked about, my report of the subcommittee is that we have come
quite a ways deciding how this investigation will take place and wants to tell the
Council he is mindful of exactly of the language of the Charter, Chapter III,
Section 8 and since the last meeting he has done his homework and suggests
where the Council is and where it can go on this. I do believe on some level that
we all agree that there should be an investigation taking place and should
adhere to the authority of the Council and would like to engage the Corporation
Counsel in the second paragraph when 78-10 talks about a waiver, I read the
ordinance and I think the important word to me is where it says the Council can
authorize an exception to that rule. What I would ask the Corporation Counsel,
does that imply that someone else in the executive branch and Contract
committee initiate or can the Council initiate and authorize a suggestion by the
Personal Services Committee. Corporation Counsel Howard responds he is not
sure what you mean by initiate. Councilman Bauer states the Council can
authorize a waiver; can they authorize to initiate a waiver and the Council did
say it was waived and the possible conflict on the release of the funds is do we
need someone, the Mayor or Finance involved in the Personnel Services
Committee to suggest a waiver be made. Corporation Counsel Howard
responds no; the Council can draft a resolution and put whatever in and it is
authorized by the Charter; they don’t have to wait on someone to initiate the
action. You can authorize an exception. Councilman Bauer suggests I would
direct you to the labeled Exhibit A in the veto message and that was the request
for appropriation document. The Mayor singled out and quoted what he felt was
incorrect language in the document; given this is the only issue before us, can
we on the floor amend the reason for request in that document to reflect more
accurately the proposal that was distributed. Corporation Counsel responds no,
you cannot amend a document that is an Exhibit; he doesn’t think it can be
amended. Councilman Bauer states the signer is here tonight and if I propose a
change in the wording. Corporation Counsel Howard responds you can’t do
that. Councilman Bauer states he believes the Mayor’s objection is the reason
for the request implies it goes out to an outside group for the investigation. He
would like to see this go forward and if we had taken the trouble to come here
we might leave with and the maker of the document at the earliest Council
meeting if it is the Council’s intent and we do have the power to amend the
language that we will do it. We would change the wording to say the
appropriation was for an active investigation by the Council. He would like to
suggest it and would support this and by overriding the veto we allow the 15 day
posting on the authorization starts with this vote.
Councilman Drew states we have gone down the rabbit hole and the veto and
reason for veto was superseded by the amendments to the resolution. The
Charter is clear on investigation and the amendment did just that and this veto
parses legal language to make it look like technical language on the resolution.
You (addressing the minority party members) said you would let it move forward
with the language change and when it was made, you did not vote for it. The
release of funds is moot at this point and once the Mayor vetoed it that was the
end of his say and the override will supersede the Mayor’s authority and cannot
be held back by the Finance Director. We need to keep to the matter at hand.
The reasons the Mayor gave are technical and they rely solely on the original
resolution and not the one passed at the meeting.
Councilman Streeto states the veto message caught me by surprise and he sat
down with the Charter and I don’t think it is well taken by a legal standpoint and
as Mr. Howard pointed out that the Council has the authority conduct an
investigation and provides no guidelines and if there were parameters, the
Council would follow it and since there are none, it lets the Council appoint
outside entities to conduct the investigation. There has been a precedent
because the Council did appoint an outside consultant to do an investigation and
it went through without objection of this nature. As a concrete example suppose
in the course of this rumor and a piece of information came out that Mr. Russo
sold a sewer pipe and used an inferior one and pocketed the difference, then
one of the Council members would have to dig the pipe up himself because they
couldn’t employ an outside company to do that. I see no reason to do so here.
Members from this Council signed a contract from both parties for the last one
and therefore there is precedence for doing this. I think we are wasting time for
this. I would add is that we extend the time to November 30 and beyond the
October 31 date in the original resolution, we should amend the agenda and
amend the resolution. Councilman Bauer states it is a special meeting and that
can’t be done; Councilman Klattenberg states it will be done at the November
meeting. Councilman Streeto states he will support this.
Councilman Daley states first he addresses Councilman Bauer’s concerns and
he appreciates them; it is my considered opinion, the request for appropriation
and the paragraph is the reason for the request and doesn’t limit the Council’s
action. It was a catalyst for the action and the action we took is making the
request and passing the resolution. He is not concerned about that. He states
Councilman Bibisi knows it is clear that the Council can conduct the investigation
and the veto is over reaching because there is nothing limiting how the Council
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does the investigation. The Council has the ability to determine the means of
conducting the investigation which includes hiring individuals to help us . The
third is the Finance Director ignoring the vote of the Council and it is clear by
Charter and there are numerous legal opinions that the one thing that is very
clear is the Common Council is the fiscal authority of the City. Attorney Solecki,
at one point put it, and affirmed his position that the Council has the control of
the purse strings. Finally I would say, there are interpretations and parsing of
words, but what we need to bring into the consideration and all future actions is
common sense and clearly what we heard at the last Council meeting shows a
need for the investigation. He heard that from the Mayor and the minority side.
The Mayor was at his last resort to begin termination and employees came
forward to discuss things that had or hadn’t been done and the Mayor’s memo
responding to the WPCA letter laying out concerns and then you had a
bipartisan body and legally constituted body requesting an investigation. Let’s
go on. He commends the subcommittee for finding the person with the right
skills and you set forth a foundation for the investigation to be completed striking
the right balance of a professional party and keeping the Council involved. And
clearly it states it is up to the Council to make the final recommendations and
conclusions. It is the Council that is investigating these matters. He urges
everyone to override the veto.
Councilman Pessina states going back to Councilman Streeto’s comments and
the former investigation; that was my first term and he does not remember since
that legal proceeding initiated by the Council that we ever got briefed by the
individual who did the investigation. Secondly, was the investigation done by
Freedom of Information; it is a legal proceeding of the Council and subject to that
act. They have to be conducted in places and times for public scrutiny. My
question is if he did hear it right, this person who will conduct the investigation
will investigate and report to the subcommittee and they will brief the Council
and my question is this done under Freedom of Information with times posted for
public scrutiny – done 3 times or only one time because it is not clear and the
Charter is very clear that is what we have to get done. Secondly, I differ with my
colleagues. I do know we have the financial fiduciary responsibility, why not get
a legal opinion based on what the Mayor wrote in his veto. Is it prudent to tell
the Finance Director to release the funds without the added step of getting a
legal opinion. I agree with Councilman Bibisi that it needs to be done and I
guess the other question is why are we utilizing Professor Rae and expending
$10,000, taxpayer’s money when we could use the Corporation Counsel. He
should be doing it. He is the arm of the Council. Let’s save the $10,000 and let
the Corporation Counsel conduct the investigation. I still have not got a
question of the status of the resolution and ask Attorney Howard again; how can
we in 20 days or so enact this resolution and spend $10,000 and not sure it will
meet Hoyle and does it bind the next Council, I don’t think so. Corporation
Counsel states there is a legitimate concern; under Robert’s Rules as a body
goes through terms, they don’t bind future bodies is reasonably true, but
sometimes continuing bodies and they can have rules that carry forward and it
depends on the contents of the resolution.
Point of Order Councilman Serra states if you are saying resolutions do not carry then I believe
that persons appointed by resolution and contracts signed by resolution are no
longer valid. That is absurd. Council’s can modify, change, or reverse. The
other night, the Chair saying the person who is the chair of this body is not
bound by Robert’s Rules. . . If resolutions don’t carry, then there are people
who are appointed by resolution, no longer have a job and then we won’t have a
budget.
Councilman Pessisna states he would like an opinion form the City Attorney. He
asks of Councilman Drew, you had a debate and one of your concerns was the
expending of money on outside legal services.
Point of Order Councilman Serra states that is out of order at this meeting. Acting Chair Bibisi
agrees and rules the comment out of order. He asks that the comments stay to
the motion on the floor.
Councilwoman Kleckowski states she did watch the meeting on T.V. and is up to
speed; she has a few questions and is not sure who can answer it. Does the
resolution carry over and one Council bind another and that was just debated.
People are using the word assist and not sure how you came about him and she
doesn’t see any investigatory jobs or consideration and his contract states he
will conduct the interviews and consult periodically and will provide reports to the
subcommittee that is a concern. It is feasible those on the subcommittee won’t
be here and what happens then and Councilman Daley is suggesting common
sense and to avoid all this brouhaha and I am in agreement, there are serious
issues to bring forward and this be on the agenda for the new Council. It is
frustrating; please do not hand us documents the night of the meeting. We are
reading as people are speaking and that is rude. We should be paying attention
to what people are saying and has this been signed and who signs it.
Councilman Klattenberg states signatures are on the back. Councilwoman
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Kleckowski asks if it has been signed. Councilman Klattenberg responds no.
Councilwoman Kleckowski states it is clear in the proposal of what the person is
going to do; what is the subcommittee going to do. What is their role. She is not
clear on that. If someone is assisting with a Council task, clearly this person is
doing all the investigating and reporting back and she has concerns with that
and to Councilman Daley’s point we should forego all the arguing and bring it up
at the new Council.
Councilman Bauer states I am going to respond to a couple of things; first
Councilman Daley I do agree and beyond agreeing with you I hope your
aspirations do come true. I am reluctant to say we don’t have any more
obstructions. He states Councilman Streeto brought up common sense and that
would bring good results. If the Common Council works together and find
common ground, there will be good results. If we do this properly and I am not
sure we left a good record last time we invoked this. I would like to see the
paperwork and a good outline on how the Council proceeds if they have to do
this in the future. Regarding Freedom of Information, all the deliberations of the
subcommittee have the total approval of the Town Clerk. The Town Clerk is the
FOI officer of the town and he asked if they have done everything properly so
far; she has said yes. He has engaged in conversation and he had questions
and asked her and she will consult with the FOI people and will forward an e-
mail to the Council Clerk and when she gets it, it will be forwarded to all the
Council members so you will get the information on that. As far as the
willingness of the subcommittee to reach out and use all the resources in the
City, we are looking at Mr. Rae to provide certain expertise and he states
publicly, no one impugns the Corporation Counsel’s acumen for doing the work,
and it is the subcommittee’s intent if they have questions and he can help to
guide us, we will ask for his help to proceed properly. We are not inhibited to
ask the City Attorney or anybody to help the investigation so it can be conducted
properly. It is off to a good start and a lot of milestones to get there and because
of the good intent, things were not written as perfectly as he wishes and he is
extending an olive branch to say let’s move forward with as much agreement as
possible to what we have agreed must be done and let’s do it with the spirit of
cooperation.
Councilman Drew states he appreciates Counciman Bauer’s sincerity and the
thoroughness of research. On the point of FOI, he is correct and as a former
reporter he is familiar with it. FOI allows for ongoing investigations, much like
the ones done by the Police Department.
Councilman Daley states he was going to make the same point about
exceptions and if you don’t consider it a personnel matter investigation, working
papers and drafts of a preliminary nature are not subject to disclosure and no
one would suggest an interview would have to be done in a public forum, but
what would be is the reports, anything the Council acts on would be subject and
what Councilman Pessina was reading, and it was unclear, but he was reading
the veto message which is the Mayor’s opinion. To Councilwoman Kleckowski’s
concern what if someone on the subcommittee leaves, it is the same when any
member leaves, the body would vote someone to replace the person. If we
don’t do anything until the next Council is seated, we wouldn’t do anything until
December. We have concerns about the director and assistant and concerns
from the union and a publicly appointed authority with charges under the Charter
and State statutes calling for this investigation and we have an obligation to
proceed.
Councilman Serra states he views this simplistically; the reason he is supporting
the inquiry is because the WPCA raised concerns, the Mayor’s response raised
concerns, the Union leadership raised concerns. His expectations of the
subcommittee, after the individual helps them with fact finding, is to facilitate the
flow of information to the Council so action can be taken. The reason is to
improve the services of the Department. Again, WPCA, response by the Mayor,
Union concerns, that is why we should be doing this inquiry. The expectations,
for this gentleman, are to fact find and the subcommittee to disburse in my
opinion. I will support this.
Councilman Pessina states I do have the same feeling as Councilman Serra that
this is serious for the reasons stated and his problem is spending the $10,000. It
bothers me to spend the money to get it done and on the subcomittee and he
thanks Councilwoman Kleckowski for pointing itout, nowhere in the resume do I
see the gentlemen ever investigated or made an inquiry into a department into
management practices and what problem is in there. The resume is impressive.
He asks if this is the only one you interviewed and who did you interview.
Councilman Klattenberg states the question is who do you get to do it for
$10,000 and if you look at an investigative attorney, investigative consulting firm
for auditing and management, you won’t get them for $10,000. You have
someone with a lot of management skills, consulting in Baltimore, New Jersey,
and is familiar with conflict resolution and utilized those skills many times.
Councilman Pessina states he has experience in inquiry into departments. . .
Councilman Klattenberg states he described some for the committee;
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Councilwoman Kasper responds he did several when he was the Chief
Administrative Officer in New Haven. Councilman Pessina states that would
have been helpful information. He states he will not support this on the sheer
fact of expenditure of money on this Council.
Councilman Serra states frankly I am glad we had the setup the way it was; if
the Council individuals and Corporation Counsel did this, this investigative
inquiry would be politicized and that would not be a good thing for us. To have
someone independent, outside from here collate a report, that does not politicize
the investigation. That is why we spend the $10,000. It would be explosive if
the Council or Corporation Counsel did the investigation. It needs to be
independent. I think the set up is right and the individuals on the subcommitee
are the right ones to keep information flowing.
Councilman Bauer states the point was made subsequent terms of the Council
and his opinion is the Council can actively unresolve what a previous Council did
and absent that all resolutions of the Council stand. He requests a roll call vote.
Councilman Klattenberg seconds that. The vote is called and it is unanimous.
The Acting Chair calls for the vote by roll call:
Councilman Bauer Aye
Councilman Faulkner Aye
Councilwoman Kasper Aye
Councilman Pessina Nay
Councilman Serra Aye
Councilman Bibisi Nay
Councilman Klattenberg Aye
Councilman Daley Aye
Councilman Santangelo Aye
Councilman Streeto Aye
Councilwoman Kleckowski Nay
Councilman Drew Aye
The Chair states the matter passes with nine in favor and three against; the
matter is readopted with nine aye votes.
Resolution No. 163-11
File Name ccreadoptappropriationforcouncil10-3-2011.docx
Description Approving readopting the vetoed appropriation, Common Council,
$10,000, Account No. 1000-12000-55185, Contractual Services, General
Fund pursuant to Chapter IV, Section 2 of the Middletown City Charter.
(Approved)
Whereas, pursuant to and in accordance with Chapter IV, Section 2 of the City of Middletown
Charter, Mayor Sebastian N. Giuliano, exercised a formal veto of an appropriation for $10,000 for the
Common Council, Account No. 1000-12000-55185, Contractual Services, General Fund which was
passed by the Common Council at a regular meeting called and held on October 3, 2011 at 7 p.m.;
and
Whereas, the Mayor has stated his reasons for invoking a veto of this appropriation.
Now, Therefore, Be it Resolved by the Common Council of the City of Middletown: That
pursuant to Chapter IV, Section 2, that the appropriation, which was formally vetoed and sent to the
Common Council on October 11, 2011, be readopted and shall thereupon be effective as so
readopted.
Motion to Adjourn Councilman Drew moves to adjourn and his motion is seconded by
Councilwoman Kasper. The vote is called and it is unanimous with twelve aye
votes to adjourn. The Chair adjourns the meeting at 7:29 p.m.
ATTEST:
MARIE O. NORWOOD
Common Council Clerk
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