City Council
Regular MeetingMillcreek, UT · October 13, 2020
Minutes
Minutes of the
Millcreek City Council
October 13, 2020
7:00 p.m.
Special Meeting
The City Council of Millcreek, Utah, met in a special public meeting on October 13, 2020 at City
Hall, located at 3330 S. 1300 E., Millcreek, UT 84106. The meeting was conducted
electronically per Millcreek State of Local Emergency Directive No. 2 of 2020 and live streamed
via the City's website with an option for online public coinment.
PRESENT:
CouncilMembers CityStaff
Jeff Silvestrini, Mayor Francis Lilly, Planning and Zoning Director
Silvia Catten, District 1 Elyse Sullivan, City Recorder
Dwight Marchant, District 2 (electronically arrived at 7:30 pm)
Cheri Jackson, District 3 Erin O'Kelley, Planner
Bev Uipi, District 4 (arrived at 7:09 pm) Rita Lund, Coinmunications Director
Kurt Hansen, Legislative Policy Director
Jim Hardy, Building Official (electronic)
Blaine Gehring, Legislative Policy Analyst
Attendees: Coinmissioner Russ Booth, David Baird, Mike May, Jason Suker, Greg Whisenant,
Thom DeSirant, and Jay Rogers.
WORK MEETING - 7:00 p.m.
TIME COMMENCED: 7:04 p.m.
Mayor Silvestrini called the work meeting to order and led the pledge of allegiance. He said the
City has had a number of meetings on the topic of accessory dwelling units and the initiative for
an ordinance was resident-driven. The cominents received from the public have helped to shape
tlie draft ordinance. The draft ordinance worild be reviewed by the coinmunity councils, the
Planning Coini'nission, and the City Council when it was ready to go through the City process.
He said staff would continue to take coinrnents from the public on the ordinance after the town
hall that night. He gave instructions to the public on how to provide coinment online, over the
phone, and in person.
1. Accessory Dwelling Unit (ADU) Virtual Town Hall
Erin O'Kelley said staff had actively reached out the corni'nunity, especially to those who had
voiced opinions on ADUs. There were two successful open houses, one in December 2019
and one in January 2020. Most residents requested another large town hall meeting. She said
since January a draft ordinance liad been prepared and was made available to the public in
August 2020. The draft proposed that a lot would qualify for an ADU ifi the owner lived on
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the property, the lot was 8,000 square feet or greater, the lot did not currently have an ADU,
the lot was used as a single-family lot, the lot was not a flag lot, and the lot was in a R-I or A-
1 Zone. She said a lot of people had expressed to her concern about detached structures. The
requirements for an attached ADU included: owner occupancy requirement, setbacks based on
Chapter 19.14 and 19.71, the lot must be 8,000 square feet or great, the lot coverage was
based on Chapter 19.14 and 19.71, 2 bedrooms would be allowed, 1 ADU (attached or
detached) would be allowed per Iot, there be a separate entrance installed on the side or rear of
the main building, 1 off-street parking stall per bedroom, occupancy limited to 2 adults and
children, and the maximum size was 50% of the main dwelling not to exceed 850 square feet.
O'Kelley pointed out that the red dots on her presentation meant that was something the
public had made comment on. The requirements for a detached ADU included: owner
occupancy required, 8.5 feet from the side and rear property line, 10 feet from the principal
dwelling, lot must be 8,000 square feet or greater, lot coverage was based on the underlying
zone and Residential Compatibility Overlay Zone (RCOZ), 2 bedrooms allowed, 1 ADU
(attached or detached) allowed per lot, separate entrance may be installed on the side or rear, I
off-street parking stall per bedroom, occupancy limited to 2 adults and children, maximum
allowed lot coverage in rear yard would be 25%, maximum height allowed was 20 feet single
story, and the maximum size was 50% of the main dwelling not to exceed 850 square feet.
Council Member Jackson asked about an ADU in conjunction with a garage. O'Kelley said
the garage would have to meet the ADU standards. The draft ordinance did not have a route
for converting existing garages into ADUs. The permitting process for an attached ADU was
that an application would be submitted for review by the Plaru'iing Department, there would be
internal staff review, and the applicant would then apply for a building permit and a business
license. She said this process was easier than the detached ADUs to incentivize people to
bring their ADU up to code. The permitting process for detached ADUs was to submit an
application to the Planning Department for a conditional use permit, internal staff review,
notice would be sent to surrounding property owners, community council review, Plaru'iing
Commission review, technical review by staff, and the applicant would apply for a building
permit then a business license. Staff was reviewing the requirement for a conditional use
permit because of the cost to the applicant and the process burden for staff. She said it was
hard to compare the requirement among surrounding cities. Some options could be an
administrative conditional use permit or limiting notice requirements for a regular conditional
use permit. Comments she had received from the public included: 8,000 square feet restricted
ADUs to higher income lots, the conditional use permit process was difficult for property
owners and overflowed the Planning Department pipeline, design guidelines for roofs limited
the ability for property owners to use prefabricated models, an 8 foot setback limited
feasibility, ADUs were restricted to streets with sidewalks or streets that could accommodate
an increase in traffic, enforcing owner-occupancy requirements, ADUs on flag lots, reductions
in setbacks, second stories not allowed, converting existing AJI)Us that did not meet standards,
design standards to modify an existing ADU was a cost burden, and short teri'n rentals not
being allowed. She said some possible changes for the next draft ordinance could include: a
permitting process for detached AJ)Us, more guidelines for detached ADUs, allowing
reductions in setbacks, converting existing detached ADUs, requiring a garage for additional
parking, licensing/internal processing, and design requirements for creating additional parking
spaces.
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Council Member Uipi asked about enforcement with other cities. O'Kelley said cities have
trouble with the owner-occupancy requirement; most used a business license so they could
check annually for the license renewal, also enforcement was complaint-based. Council
Member Uipi asked when a draft ordinance would go to the community councils. O'Kelley
said staff could go as fast or slow as necessary, and it depended on the comments received
that evening. Mayor Silvestrini requested to listen to public comments that night then the
Council review the next draft at a work meeting before it went to the community councils.
Francis Lilly said staff was working on several research projects with surrounding cities on
their ordinances; mapping where and how many ADUs there were in the Millcreek and
meeting with utility providers and the Granite School District.
Jay Rogers, 2154 E. Lambourne Avenue, appreciated the progressive nature of Millcreek and
thanked the Council. He felt the ordinance would benefit the community, especially with
challenges with COVID-19. He said parking would be a problem but having an ADU on top
of a garage would help to alleviate that. He expressed concern about privacy.
Caller - Todd Budy, 3579 Honeycut Road, applauded the Council's foresight on the issue. He
said he had an existing garage that he would like to add an ADU to. He did not think that
many people wanted an ADU, so the numbers would not overwhelm any neighborhood. He
felt that ADUs were a good way to add density and affordable housing.
Greg Whisenant, 1277 Ridgedale Lane, appreciated the work that had been done. He
suggested letting bigger lots have detached ADUs and smaller lots have attached ADUs.
Caller - Matthew Clewett, Public Policy Director for Salt Lake Board of Realtors, said ADUs
were important to address affordable horising in the cominunity. He suggested the 8,000
square foot, flag lot, and 850 square foot requirements would create problems. He said
attached units were principally 50% or less of the main dwelling footprint and the size
requirement would hinder that. He suggested using a percentage instead of a square footage.
He said detached ADUs were usually on the second story, above garages, and asked for a
reconsideration of that requirement.
Jason Suker, 3260 0rchard Street, said he was working on a garage project and had made best
efforts to add a legal ADU to it. He asked the Council to accoinmodate best efforts with
grandfathering ADUs.
Caller - Ben Towers, 2357 Lambourne Avenue, expressed concerii about the 20-foot height
requirement meeting RCOZ but not the draft ADU ordinance. He recently had garage permit
approved by the City and this structure would be contrary to the draft ordinance.
Thom DeSirant, 718 E. Nibley View, expressed concern about preexisting structures,
especially with setbacks. He asked if the Council would consider special exceptions. Mayor
Silvestrini said it could be looked at. DeSirant appreciated the City addressing the issue. He
said there were large flag lots in the city and some could reasonably fit an ADU.
Caller - Jamie Walker, 1725 E. 4620 S., highlighted a neiglibor who rented their property that
had two homes on the lot with a high number of vehicles regularly parked there and asked if
they could continue renting. O'Kelley said if there was a business license, it would need to be
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reviewed and regulated. She said if they applied for a new ADU, they would only be approved
for the 2 parking stalls through the site plan. Walker asked the Council to consider a zone that
allowed tiny houses. Lilly said it would be a new type of subdivision, not an ADU.
Elyse Sullivan read into the record four public comments received online that day through the
public comment form on the Meeting Live Stream page on Millcreek's website.
"JonLarsen, 2597Kimbary Way, IsupportADUs throughoutMillcreek. We need more
affordable housing options, and this is a smart, pragmatic way to do it. Somepeople will
complairt about parking, traffic, noise, and ambiguous things like"neighborhood character."
None of those arguments hold water- they're just excusesfrom NIMBYs. Don't tell me that
parkirxg and traffic issuesfrom a little old lady renting out (172ADUis any worse than a family
with teenagers. By the way, I want both in my neighborhood. Healthy rxeighborhoods have a
variety of housing options at a variety of price points.
"Steve Ross, 3587 E. MillcreekRoad, I'm concerned about monitoring the use ofADUs for
short-termusevslong-termrentals. WhatrecoursewillIhaveifanADUisinstallednext
door to me and it's rertted out on a short-term basis in violation of proposed rules? Short-term
rentals usually result in a party house atmosphere with resulting noise, traffic congestion, and
deterioration of the property itself. Similarly, what recourse willl have if more people live
there than the rules stipulate? Will there be any monitoring of the use of any and allADUs or
enforcement of the rules? Thanks for considering my concerns."
"Shawn LaMar, 3621 S. 1200 E., I've been 072 since the start and haven't had issues."
(Referring to the Mayor inquiring about issues with the meeting live stream functionality).
"J(18072Waxley, 1456 S. 2980 E., My comment is also 072grandfathering. As you know there
are many ADUs that do not conform to the proposal. If these units are not causing a burden to
the neighborhood, would thatADUbe grandfathered in tmtil the residence changes
ownership (when it would need an a new ADUlicense). I also feel that the 8000 SQFT
requirement is exclusionary. Perhaps a mother in law (somethirxg already in thefoot prinQ
could be allowed 072 smaller lots. Doing so would allow access to the housing market for
younger advdts. Otherwise, owning a home will become increasingly impossible for youriger
people."
David Baird, 4538 Thousand Oaks Drive, said the ordinance was not ready to move through
the city process yet. He said he provided O'Kelley with a list of considerations. He felt ADUs
changed the character of the neighborhood and the City needed to mitigate the impact of
them. He polled his neighborhood and there was no support for the ordinance. He asked the
Council to move forward with an ordinance correctly.
Elyse Sullivan read into the record another comment received online through the website.
'Maddy McDoriouy;5h, 1477 E. Gre;gsonAvewe, I have two primary concerrxs about the ADU
drafi as it exists: 1) The 8,000 square foot lot size requirement seems arbitrary and, as a
previous comment mentioned, limits permittedADUs to property owners in a higher
socioecortomic level. I think this will lead to continued, un-permitted uses. 2) I wovdd suggest
thatADUs be allowed to be built as a second floor to existing two-car garage structures, even
ifthose garages are non-conforming structures rmder zoning or RCOZ, again, to increase
equitable opportunity to have an ADU There could be a requirement, for example, that limits
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windows to be transom windows on the side and back of the vmit that wovdd "overlook"
neighboring yards. My garage, for example, is built to the property line, but could easily
accommodate an ADUon a second floor if that were permitted. Itseems like a missed
opporttmiff.
Caller - Todd Budy 3579 Honeycut Road, said there may not be interest for ADUs in affluent
areas of the city, like Mt. Olympus (as Mr. Baird pointed out), because they did not need the
extra income. He brought up the benefits of short-term rentals.
Caller - Barb Hansen, 3546 Gateway Road, asked about subdividing detached ADUs. Mayor
Silvestrini said the City did not grant exceptions; to subdivide, the property would have to
meet the requirements of the subdivision and zoning ordinances. Hansen asked about the
required height with different roof types. Mayor Silvestrini said the limit was the maximum
height of the structure regardless of roof type. Hansen asked about considerations for fire
safety. Mayor Silvestrini said staff would review the site plan and if it did not meet fire safety
standards it would not be pen'nitted. Hansen asked about a restriction on the number of
children because the draft code said occupants were limited to two adults and children. Mayor
Silvestrini said the City did not control how many family members lived in a dwelling.
Hansen asked about rent restrictions. Mayor Silvestrini said the market determined rental
rates, not the City.
David Baird referenced the old television show "Happy Days" for levity.
Mayor Silvestrini thanked the public for the comments received. Erin O'Kelley said she
appreciated the detailed comments and would look into them. She said in a previous meeting,
staff had considered special exceptions, so it could be revisited. Mayor Silvestrini said he did
not want to put more imposition on neighborhoods and brought up design standards for
pnvacy reasons. Francis Lilly said there was a special exception process provision for
noncomplying nonconforming uses currently in code. Council Member Catten brought up that
existing buildings had shorter setbacks and there should be a work around for that. She asked
about rules in cul-de-sacs or dead-end streets for on-street parking. She said prefabricated
ADUs could be aesthetically pleasing though there could be 'future issues, like mobile/trailer
homes, for infrastructure. She asked about limiting them as ADUs. Mayor Silvestrini said
there were legal issues on putting limits on manufactured housing, though the building code
would still be enforced. Lilly said prefabricated homes could be required to adapt to certain
design standards. Council Member Jackson asked about the 850 square foot requirement with
basement apartments. O'Kelley said the 850 square feet or less than 50% of the main building
for attached ADUs was strict but staff was willing to modify the use. She said the public was
concerned about creating a duplex which was why the draft ordinance was strict. Council
Member Uipi said that residents were concerned about being able to accommodate their aging
family members in existing structures. O'Kelley said staff was hoping to change the non-
confon'ning use ordinance.
ADJOURNED: Council Member Uipi moved to adjourn the special meeting at 8:38 p.m.
Council Member Jaekson seconded. Mayor Silvestrini called for the vote. All Council
Members voted yes. The motion passed unanimously.
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APPROVED: emSilvestrini, Mayor
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Attest: My'Lan, City Recorder
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