Planning Commission
Regular MeetingMillcreek, UT · February 15, 2017
Minutes
Millcreek
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MEETING MINUTE SUMMARY
MILLCREEK PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:00 p.m.
**Meeting minutes approved March 15, 2017**
Approximate meeting length: 2 hours 50 minutes *NOTE: Staff Reports referenced in this document can be
Number of public in attendance: 20 found on the State and County websites, or from Salt Lake
County Planning & Development Services.
Summary Prepared by: Wendy Gurr
Meeting Conducted by: Commissioner Stephens
ATTENDANCE
Public Business
Commissioners Absent
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Public Business
Tom Stephens x x Planning Staff / DA
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Shawn LaMar x x
David Carlson x x Wendy Gurr x x
Scott Claerhout x x Max Johnson
Jeff Miller
Mark Mumford x x
Spencer Hymas x x
Fred Healey x x
Tom Zumbado x x
Heather Wilson x x
Todd Draper
Dave Allen x
Russ Booth x x
PUBLIC MEETING
Meeting began at – 5:01 p.m.
Election of Chair and Vice Chair for 2017 -
Election of chair pro tem and then election of chair and vice-chair for the 2017 calendar year.
1) Election of Chair for 2017
Motion: To nominate Commissioner Stephens for Chair by acclamation, Commissioner Stephens
accepted.
Motion by: Commissioner Healey
2nd by: Commissioner LaMar
Vote: Commissioners voted unanimous in favor (of commissioners present)
2) Election of Vice Chair for 2017
Motion: To nominate Commissioner Healey for Vice Chair, Commissioner Healey accepted.
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Motion by: Commissioner Mumford
2nd by: Commissioner Booth
Vote: Commissioners voted unanimous in favor (of commissioners present)
Commissioner Wilson arrived at 5:05pm
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Hearings began at – 5:06 p.m.
Legislative –
30277 – Nathan Anderson and Jon Jones are requesting a rezone from R-2-6.5 to C-3. Location: 1257
and 1253 East Elgin Avenue. Community Council: Millcreek. Planner: Spencer Hymas
Salt Lake County Planning and Development Services Planner Spencer Hymas provided an analysis of
the staff report.
Commissioner LaMar asked if both plots would be combined into one. Mr. Hymas said his understanding
was that it can be combined into one. Commissioner Stephens asked if the total acreage is .64. Mr. Hymas
confirmed that to be correct. Commissioner Mumford asked about the property to the left and if the whole
lot is for sale and if it is owned by the same owners. Mr. Hymas said they are owned by separate owners,
but same family.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING OPENED
Speaker # 1: Applicant
Name: Nathan Anderson
Address: 2383 East 900 South
Comments: Mr. Anderson said he’s happy to be here. He thinks Mr. Hymas addressed all the fine points.
Two parcels owned separately, he and another family member are coming back here under one plat
request.
Commissioner Stephens asked why C-3, instead of R-M. Mr. Anderson said to be consistent. He has to
add a fire turnaround. He chose the site himself and height has been sensitive, so they will be thirty feet in
height. Commissioner Stephens asked for the understanding of the measurement of height, and it will be
measured from grade level to the highest point on the roof and would thirty feet to the very top of the
parapet. Mr. Anderson said thirty-one and a half feet to the parapet with solar panels. Commissioner
Stephens asked if they will be owner occupied. Mr. Anderson said owner occupied, but limited rental.
Commissioner Stephens said the new PUD ordinance is limited to one or three acreage depending on the
location. Mr. Janson said there have been changes to PUD ordinance since last time he was here. Mr.
Anderson said a PUD is a preferred method for the fee simple ownership. Condo act and airspace are
much more difficult for financing and equities. Condo is limited FHA. Commissioner Stephens asked if it
makes sense to proceed with a rezone application. Mr. Anderson said he will work with staff.
Commissioner LaMar said the Millcreek Community Council wanted to limit it to thirty feet asked if Mr.
Anderson wanted thirty-two feet with solar panels. Mr. Anderson said just under thirty-two feet and
including parapet wall will be satisfactory.
Speaker # 2: Millcreek Community Council
Name: Chris Haller
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Address: 1149 East Elgin Avenue
Comments: Mr. Haller said the Millcreek Community Council recommends approval with a density
limitation of 14 units and height of thirty feet.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING CLOSED
Commissioners had a brief discussion regarding height, zoning conditions, limited to residential use, and
number of units.
Motion: To recommend approval to the City Council for application #30277 with Staff
Recommendations, being limiting to residential with a maximum of 14 units and a height limitation to 32
feet.
Motion by: Commissioner Healey
2nd by: Commissioner Carlson
Vote: Commissioners voted unanimous in favor
Administrative –
30197 – Ken Menlove is requesting Conditional Use approval to build an Indoor Storage Facility. Parcel
Area: .64 Acre. Location: 3333 South 700 East. Zone: C-2. Community Council: Millcreek. Planner:
Tom C. Zumbado.
Salt Lake County Planning and Development Services Planner Tom Zumbado provided an analysis of the
staff report.
Commissioner Healey asked how high the structure is. Mr. Zumbado said four or three levels, but the
height from ground to the top is sixty-nine feet.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING OPENED
Speaker # 1: Applicant
Name: Ken Menlove
Address: 10339 North 6900 West, Highland
Comments: Mr. Menlove said they’ve been building storage units for 32 years, a total of 280 facilities in
Utah. This is class A, indoor facility, climate controlled with all storage inside the building. The facilities
are made to look like office buildings. Safe and secure, have won awards and very quiet neighbors, low
traffic, and are a very good use for this site. The design meets all the criteria and ordinances. There are a
lot of facilities in the area, because the zone allows it and there is a demand. Storage unit inventory is 40%
behind and facilities are 95% full. These units will be 5x10 and 10x10. It will be a four story facility and
will be built into the ground four feet, about sixty-five feet to natural grade. Towers are there for
appearance only. Only utility is electrical for lights in the hallways. Tenants can’t live or run businesses
in the units.
Commissioner Mumford asked if access will be through 7-11 parking lot. Mr. Menlove said they don’t
need that and UDOT will give them approval off 700 east. Ingress/egress between 7-11 and will be
shared between the two lots. Commissioner Mumford asked how many parking stalls. Mr. Menlove said
three to four inside the building, rollup doors to access the facility and four outside, eight total.
Commissioner Mumford said turning radius is forty feet. Mr. Menlove said that is not a problem, as semis
will go to other facilities, not this one. Commissioner LaMar asked about the self-storage facility
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approved in October, is if it is an indoor facility. Mr. Menlove confirmed that it is. Commissioner LaMar
asked why the proposed height is so high. Mr. Menlove said self-storage to the east is three feet levels
above and one below. If towers are removed, will be about fifty-three feet high.
Speaker # 2: Millcreek Community Council
Name: Chris Haller
Address: 1149 East Elgin Avenue
Comments: Mr. Haller said Mr. Zumbado provided info accurately and they asking for a continuance,
because they wanted more community input. The feeling of the community council appears to be that
there are enough storage facilities in Millcreek.
Speaker # 3: citizen
Name: Scott York
Address: 3341 South 700 East
Comments: Mr. York said his bedroom window is thirty feet away. His home is south of the proposed
building. At seventy feet someone will be looking down. A few months ago, they met with the
community council as respects the self-storage application to the east, and it was appropriate, as the
builder was happy to deal with the common problems. They are part of Salt Lake County farm program.
Farmers were concerned about plants and pesticide and they are still concerned about that. Nothing in
neighborhood is seventy feet tall, as requested by this proposal. The neighbors along Scott court will
never see a sunset again and will look like a prison and he asked Mr. Menlove if he’d appreciate this from
his residential window. Ingress/egress was discussed at a previous meeting when a story and half
restaurant was being proposed. The State of Utah came in and gave no commercial access off of 700 east.
He really doubts 7-11 will allow traffic next to its gas pumps and he questions if they will really get
access. Scott court is a thirty-seven foot wide street and if cars are parked on the street, it will be one lane
going in and out. Only way to enter Scott Court is eastbound. He is curious what will be done with fence.
Mr. York stated that the immediate area has high ground water and artesian wells.
Commissioner Stephens asked about Salt Lake County, Millcreek Township and adopted county
ordinances. He talked to all his neighbors.
Speaker # 4: Millcreek Mayor
Name: Jeff Silvestrini
Address: 3400 South Crestwood Drive
Comments: Mr. Silvestrini advised the notice is postmarked February 2.
Speaker # 5: Citizen
Name: Heather Peeters
Address: 5167 South 600 East, Murray
Comments: Ms. Peeters said she is with Salt Lake county farm week. Through the Farm program on Mr.
York’s land, she leased two acres from Mr. York and they are selling products at the farmers market. Her
concern is what will happen, as she needs to access this farm all summer. They have a trailer and truck
and hopes that there won’t be any blocking of Scott court during construction. Not feasible to make right
turn from 700 east.
Speaker # 6: Applicant
Name: Ken Menlove
Address: 10339 North 6900 West, Highland
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Comments: Mr. Menlove advised they wouldn’t be accessing from Scott Court. They will not have
windows on the south and if so would eliminate them for neighbors. There are other storage facilities that
are as tall as what he is proposing.
Commissioner Stephens asked where this other self-storage facility is located. Mr. Menlove said 1045
east 3300 south and is a tall facility, but thirteen to fourteen feet shorter than this and they approved that
drive access. They will need UDOT approval and if they didn’t approve it that would pose a problem.
New eight foot fence is proposed, will be pre cast concrete fence on the south side and built on
applicant’s property. Commissioner Healey said the elevations have a number of windows on the south
side. Mr. Menlove said they will take a look at that and are willing to work with homeowner.
Commissioner Mumford asked about setback. Mr. Menlove said there will be a ten foot setback and eight
foot fence on the property line. Commissioner Booth asked about parking area, it looks tight for a twenty-
six to twenty-eight foot truck and north on 700 east. Mr. Menlove said if a semi is too big, they will not
come to this facility. A lot of facilities such as the one being proposed restrict semis. Width is forty feet.
Commissioner Mumford asked about the distance off the driveway on 700 east. Mr. Menlove said the
driveway is thirty feet wide, which is what UDOT requires. Parking stalls are twenty feet. Commissioner
Mumford said can see concerns where a truck is coming out in the second lane and making a turn into the
property. Mr. Menlove said some trucks coming through 7-11, due to an ingress/egress agreement with 7-
11. 7-11 driveway is thirty feet. Commissioner Wilson asked about the turrets on top of the building. Mr.
Menlove said there will be lights only, just to light up at night, to access the roof, and are strictly
decorative. Commissioner Mumford asked if 24-hour access will be allowed. Mr. Menlove said the doors
are closed and hours close at 8pm lock down and open at 8am.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING CLOSED
Commissioners and Staff had a brief discussion regarding height in the zone, parking, citizen input and
community council recommendation, architectural features decorations, farmland, ingress/egress off 700
east.
Motion: To continue application #30197 to March 15th to allow for more community council input, the
applicant to consider height, parking, architectural features, and ingress/egress from 700 east.
Motion by: Commissioner Mumford
2nd by: Commissioner Healey
Vote: Commissioners voted unanimous in favor
30185 – Pascal Meyer is requesting conditional use approval for a site plan amendment and parking
reduction. Parcel Area: .5 Acre. Location: 3215 East 3300 South. Zone: C-2. Community Council:
Canyon Rim. Planner: Tom C. Zumbado.
Commissioner Healey recused himself from this application due to a conflict of interest.
Salt Lake County Planning and Development Services Planner Tom Zumbado provided an analysis of the
staff report.
Commissioner Stephens said he would like Ms. Carver to offer comments after the applicant presents.
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PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING OPENED
Speaker # 1: Applicant
Name: Pascal Meyer
Address: 334 East Parkway
Comments: Mr. Meyer handed out elevations presented to the Canyon Rim Community Council. Basic
shape of eliminating curb cut and parking accessed through the shopping center. Mr. Meyer is
contemplating two restaurant tenants. Mr. Meyer gave an explanation as to the parking ratios
contemplated and how the parking will be adequate based upon a shared parking study done by a
qualified traffic engineer, which came to the conclusion that a parking ratio of what is less than county
standards is warranted.
Commissioner Stephens said when he read the staff report, the assumption he made was that the applicant
was not the owner of the adjacent shopping center and that the applicant would have to negotiate a
shared parking agreement with the shopping center, which might not be possible. In fact, the shopping
center owner is the applicant, so a shared parking agreement will not be necessary. Commissioner
Mumford asked about the north side of the car wash. Mr. Meyer said car wash is being removed.
Commissioner Claerhout asked how many units there will be. Mr. Meyer said two. Commissioner Booth
about the estimated hours of planned uses. Mr. Meyer said he was not sure of hours, but the restaurants
would be sit down. The cliental base tenants draw would be in the evening, after work. So the needed
parking will not conflict with daytime parking needs.
Speaker # 2: Salt Lake County Traffic Engineer
Name: Jena Carver
Address: 2001 South State Street
Comments: Ms. Carver said her opinion, is based on the traffic study and looking at the
recommendations recommends 3.9 stalls per 1000 square feet, but the average can be as low as 3.7. Her
recommendation is to not going below that. Ms. Carver recommends further study.
Commissioner Stephens asked what she expects from the study. Ms. Carver said it isn’t really clear as to
the number of stalls. Wasn’t clear if the 505 parking stalls included all parking, front and back or just in
front of Savers. She wants a more comprehensive study. Previous study, from 2010, showed 555 stalls
approved and now 505. Commissioner Wilson said she wished would like to see current photo showing
the stalls and if the study takes into account adverse conditions. Ms. Carver said that can’t be taken in to
account, because if it becomes a problem it could require property owner to remove the snow from the
site.
Speaker # 3: Applicant
Name: Pascal Meyer
Address: 334 East Parkway
Comments: Mr. Meyer discussed the 2010 study, the current shared parking study and the discrepancies
as to the number of parking stalls. He assured the planning commission that he is sensitive to the needs of
tenants and customers and will certainly be maintaining the parking capacity through the removal of
snow.
Commissioner Mumford asked if he has percent of occupancy during hours or demands. Mr. Meyer said
the traffic can be supported for the uses. Only half of the Menchies store is being used by the public. They
looked to their traffic engineer to do his analysis, if they need to modify it, they will. Commissioner
Claerhout asked about traffic going through, as there is a lot of traffic. Mr. Meyer said at the community
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council they showed concern this traffic issue and want customers to feel safe, and can put up stop signs
and pedestrian caution signs or speed bumps. It affects parking in a negative sense if they redesign. Mr.
Meyer again referred to the shared parking study and its conclusions.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING CLOSED
Commissioners had a brief discussion regarding parking and public transit, and pedestrian safety.
Motion: To approve application #30185 with Staff Recommendation and two conditions:
1. Parking reduction to 3.72 stalls per 1000 square feet; and
2. Work with Salt Lake County Traffic engineer to design traffic calming and pedestrian safety.
Motion by: Commissioner LaMar
2nd by: Commissioner Mumford
Vote: Commissioners voted unanimous in favor (of commissioners present)
Commissioner Healey rejoined the meeting at 7:05pm
30171 – Gordon Clark is requesting permission to amend the site plan for modifications to the building
entry ramp, addition of stairs and improvements to accessible parking. Parcel Area: .76 Acre. Location:
495 East 4500 South. Zone: R-M. Community Council: Millcreek. Planner: Tom C. Zumbado.
Salt Lake County Planning and Development Services Planner Tom Zumbado provided an analysis of the
staff report.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING OPENED
Speaker # 1: Applicant
Name: Scott Holmes
Address: 577 South 200 East
Comments: Mr. Holmes said upper floor is occupied by a pediatric clinic, and that the property owner
purchased it a few years ago. Existing ramp doesn’t meet compliance with today’s ADA standards.
Improvements must be made in order to meet current standards. Current parking area faces towards the
runway. The owner recognizes safety and wants to bring into compliance. The design put forth does
reduce parking stalls by five. These are the necessary actions to bring entry into compliance and improve
life safety.
Mr. Zumbado said even with the reduction, they are still in compliance. Commissioner Mumford said two
entrance and exits, east side has steps.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING CLOSED
Motion: To approve application #30171 as presented with Staff Recommendations.
Motion by: Commissioner Wilson
2nd by: Commissioner Mumford
Vote: Commissioners voted unanimous in favor
BUSINESS MEETING
Meeting began at – 7:12 p.m.
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Mr. Brems advised that it would be inappropriate for this city planning commission to approve minutes
from meetings that arise from another public body, being the Millcreek Township Planning Commission.
Consequently, the Millcreek City Planning commission chose to not approve the draft minutes from the
township planning commission meetings that took place in December 2016.
1) Approval of Minutes from the December 14, 2017 meeting.
Motion:
Motion by:
2nd by:
Vote:
2) Approval of Minutes from the December 21, 2017 meeting.
Motion:
Motion by:
2nd by:
Vote:
3) MD Zone rewrite
John Janson provided an analysis of the MD zone and provided a PowerPoint presentation to
clarify and reinforce information provided in the packet as respects the creation of a new mixed
development ordinance that will replace the current MD-1 ordinance.
Commissioners and Mr. Janson had a discussion regarding neighbors’ concerns and putting in
place MD Ordinance.
Mayor Silvestrini spoke. He had asked Mr. Stephens and Mr. Janson to work on an update of the
mixed development ordinances specifically for the Meadowbrook area. He has been approached
by developers who are interested in projects in this area, but it had become clear that none of the
current ordinances are appropriate, or will work, for the Meadowbrook area. The development
interest is in high density, greater height and mixed use, of which none of the current zoning
ordinance can accommodate. The Meadowbrook area is in transition. Ultimately, his goal is to
create a form-based ordinance for Meadowbrook, but in the meantime, the city needs a new
ordinance that will, to at least some degree, accommodate and improvement in this area. With the
new MD ordinance, it will be available to interested parties to apply to a re-zone to the new MD
zone. No current property owner or use will be affected by this new ordinance.
4) Ordinance Issues from today’s meeting
Commissioner LaMar asked why this comes to us and not a regular channel. Commissioner
Carlson said planning staff should explain the technical review process better and what will be
dealt with.
5) Other Business Items (as needed)
Commissioner LaMar advised commissioners there are silent alarms under the counter that are
easily triggered.
Commissioner Wilson motioned to close the Business Meeting, Commissioner Healey seconded
that motion.
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MEETING ADJOURNED
Time Adjourned – 7:51 p.m.
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