Planning Commission
Regular MeetingMillcreek, UT · November 16, 2017
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Millcreek
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MEETING MINUTE SUMMARY
MILLCREEK PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
November 16, 2017 5:00 PM
(Approved January 17, 2018)
Approximate meeting length: 3 hours
Number of public in attendance: 17 plus those who did not sign or whose names were ineligible
Summary Prepared by: Alexandra Muller
Meeting Conducted by: Commissioner Stephens
ATTENDANCE
Commissioners Present Absent Millcreek Present Absent
Tom Stephens (Chair) Present
x Mayor Jeff Silvestrini x
Fred Healey (Vice Chair) x
John Janson x
Shawn LaMar x
Alexandra Muller x
David Carlson x
Scott Claerhout xx Francis Lilly X
Mark Mumford x John Brems x
Heather Wilson x Ashley Cleveland x
Dave Allen x
Russ Booth x
Hearing began at 5:05 p.m.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING OPENED
Chairman Stephens read the opening statement.
ZM-17-004– Nathan Anderson requests Rezone from R-2-6.5 to RM
Location: 1253-1257 E. Elgin Ave. Zone: R-2-6.5. Community: Millcreek. Planner:
Frank Lilly
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Mr. Lilly introduced the planning staff by stating Kurt Hansen, Director of Community
Development, and said he was privileged to have Mr. Hanson as a boss.
He also introduced Ashley Cleveland who is a new Millcreek planner. He said with the
other planner Robert May who was at yesterday’s Planning Commission meeting that
the four of them the Millcreek Planning Department.
He said this is a request for to rezone a small piece of property on E Ave from R-2-6.5 to
RM. We are also recommending the adoption of a development agreement (DA) which
bind the developer to the proposed rezone. He said this is actually a project the Planning
Commission has seen before during the transitioning period of the county to Millcreek.
He said the applicant had taken time to finesse the proposal.
He said this site is under an acre with the applicant proposing a restriction on town
homes as described in the staff reports. This project falls under the minimum for a PUD
but the City Council has authority to stipulate via DA. Mr. Lilly said the Planning
Commission recommend a change in RM zoning the previous night allowing PUDS
down to 8 units regardless of minimum acre size.
Mr. Lilly said the Planning Commission heard this February 15th of this year with a
recommendation of approval. The City Council heard it on March of this year and
continued the request pending the DA. He said at that time, the zones had changed and
they requested it come back to the Planning Commission stipulating this would be a
rezone to RM.
Mr. Lilly explained the existing zone and land use consisted of duplexes and commercial
uses. The surrounding uses include residential multifamily uses, C3 zoning, office space,
and storage units. He said this is a long and narrow site with trend moving from
residential to mixed use in past 50 years. Applicant’s proposal is going with the trend
and fits in better with neighborhood content.
He said the project information on the table in the packet shows what is allowed in
current zone and what the applicant is proposing. Applicant is proposing townhomes
that top out at 29 feet with a density of 23 units per acre and a front yard 15-foot
setback. There are 14 townhomes as part of this project with side yards are at 11 feet and
amenities for residents. Each townhome will 2 parking stalls that meet the requirement.
The proposed plat will come back to the Commission assuming the City Council
approves this for conditional use permit and preliminary plat approval. Amenities are
required under recreational and open space policy: a small community park, garden,
pavilion, and BBQ. He said they know what they are going to get with this project. The
Millcreek Community Council recommended the project. He said he had not received
any comments or emails. He said in their future planning effort what he keeps hearing
in the emerging master gen plan that this may be a town center. He said that one fair
question is whether this type of use is appropriate. He said staff believes it is appropriate
for a mixed-use town center.
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Mr. Lilly said staff recommends that Planning Commission recommends to City Council
subject to DA that restricts the development to a townhome community consisting of 14
units as described in staff report. There is a draft DA in packet that applicant has
prepared. There will be pedestrian access in the center and parking in the back. It is
about two hundred feet to the property line. He said the architecture that the applicant
is proposing is a contemporary design with a lot of glass and a nice mix of materials with
brick along the front. He said this application has been reviewed by the fire marshal and
county engineering. Mr. Lilly said that summarized his presentation.
Commissioner Mumford asked whether height was maximized in this zone?
Mr. Lilly answered no, as the maximum is 40 feet in the RM zone.
Commissioner Claerhout asked what is the building next to the project and whether it is
the same price? He asked does it fit in and what is on the left side?
Mr. Lilly said it looks to be roughly the same. It is a 3-story building similar to others.
He answered it looked to be residences to the left.
Applicant Nathan Anderson said he would like to give thanks to Frank Lilly because he
is well read and well informed. He said there are 2 duplexes to the left and the rest of the
area is commercial. Specifically, this property was purchased by him and his brother.
He said the 35 feet building to the east of is higher plane because of the parking lot. He
said they are at 29 feet with an additional 2 feet in a parapet wall. It is brick and metal
in the front with stucco and siding. He said they will proceed with glass on the front
doors and entry ways. Private outdoor space exclusive to owners and fenced cedar wood
fencing with exclusive use too. He said there will be a 60/40 split with cement and grass
with some areas being fenced in. That is the sum of the project. He said the other
criticisms will be storage as they have learned their lessons over the years.
Public comment: 5:27pm
Community Council Representative Lynda Bagley, 1250 Manor Circle, said as far as she
understands this has been approved many times.
No comment from the audience 5:28pm
Discussion from the Planning Commission:
Chairman Stephens said he was on the Millcreek Township Commission and what they
did on a rezone did include a DA as a tool so when they made recommendations to the
county council it was on a wing and prayer that what was said would actually get built.
Now the city has DA that is binding between the city and the builder. He said any
recommendation will be accompanied with the DA and sent to City Council will be built.
Any failure by developer to not build and the city has recourse including reverting back
to original rezone. Is that correct?
Mr. Lilly confirmed it was correct.
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Chairman Stephens said the planners will fine tune with the developer to conform with
city ordinance.
Commissioner Carlson motioned to recommend to City Council to approve rezone
request ZM-17-004 located at 1253-1257 E. Elgin Avenue from R-2-6.5 to RM subject to
the DA restricting development a townhome PUD of 14 units as described in staff
reports.
Commissioner Clearhout seconded the motion.
Unanimous vote of approval.
ZM-17-005 – Dustin Buckthal requests rezone from M-1 to MD
Location: 4142-4180 S Main Street Zone: M-1. Community: Millcreek. Planner:
Ashley Cleveland
Planner Ashley Cleveland stated the applicant Dustin Buckthal is seeking approval for
rezone of 2.2 acres from M-1 to MD to develop a fitness gym. The facility will be an
anchor as well as a gathering location and consistent with urban development along the
area. The applicant is also proposing commercial frontage that exceeds 50% of footage
required by the code. Ms. Cleveland said the surrounding area is vacant lot and retail.
The area all equates to approximately 2.2 acres. A future development south of the gym
includes a restaurant and other retail with office use on the 2nd level with a food truck
area. The applicant is proposing a contemporary building design establishing its
presence on Main Street. The building is 3 stories tall with maximum of 72 feet as
provided in the MD rezone. The applicant wants the design consideration to be a
defining structure for the area. The surrounding area would include safe access to public
streets. Being there are none immediately there are proposed streetscape such aa plaza
and the space is anticipated to have movie night.
Community council unanimously accepted this for recommendation. The proposed
project will enhance an underutilized area and on a major road. There will be significant
public benefit with the open space. This is the open area that will provide for movie
tonight which can be a catalyst for the area as there have been a couple more developers
come across our desks. The building will not taller than 3 stories.
Commissioner Mumforsd asked whether curb and gutter would go down to Main Street?
Mr. Lilly confirmed that is correct.
Commissioner LaMar asked whether it would come back for conditional use?
Mr. Lilly said it was permitted.
Architect Hannah Vaughn spoke for applicant Dustin Buckthal was not present due to
family emergency. She said she is one of the architects for the project. She explained this
is owner occupied and that this would be a different sort of investment. She said the
applicant would not be leaving as there is commitment to surrounding community to
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have a quality design. This will bring people to that neighborhood for a high density and
pedestrian zone.
Chairman Stephens asked whether the MD zone is the standard as it stated one material
will not be more than 50% side of the building. He also asked if the architects could walk
through the exterior of the 3rd floor?
Ms. Vaughn answered the glass going up to 16.6 feet height with variation in material.
She said that they are seeking something that is subtler with metal panels to arrive at
that texture. There would be energy efficiency with no glare. She said at night it would
glow like a little lantern.
Commissioner Mumford asked whether the address was correct on the end of the
property?
Mr Lilly answered the address may not be correct but the parcels were. He said the
intent was clear.
Speaker 1: Rodney Engh
Address: 4072 S Main
Mr. Engh said the area that has been industrial for quite a while and now they have too
many residential units. It really looks good and then we will have housing units. It’s a
problem with too many people in a small area. He said years ago it was a trailer park
though the area would be great for grocery store along the Trax. We need something
more suitable for the people already there.
Speaker 2: Dave Hogan
Address: 1869 Gunderson Lane
Mr. Hogan said he would like to echo Mr. Engh’s comments and people that come by
from high density units. They leave debris and area will become a slum. He said he
didn’t think it will be good as the traffic would be terrible. He said if you are not a
homeowner then you are not notified. Mr. Hogan said he hoped they were planning for a
good future in the 10 years as he remembered the hoops he had to go through to build.
Speaker 3: Tim Rideout
Address: 50 East Central Avenue,
Mr. Rideout said the theft in the area was unbelievable where is has lived for the past 20
years. He said in the last 8 or 9 months he has had 30 or 40 cars broken into. He said
he called Unified Police a number of times and was told that if no one was hurt there
was nothing the police could do. He also said he was told if he couldn’t catch a license
plate on video it wouldn’t help. He has $30,000 in video and outdoor lighting. This is a
new problem that started within the last year. He said he was told there are only 6
officers for the Millcreek office and when he called the Unified Police there were 6 or 9
people ahead of him before they could get to him. He said he wasn’t aware a gym was
being built and was more concerned with housing.
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Ms. Vaughn responded by stating they can’t respond to overall density in the area. She
said the applicant does want to improve the neighborhood and this project is owner
occupied with the applicant is invested in that spot. She said he has a full-time
groundskeeper so if anything is thrown onto the ground it would be picked up. Ms.
Vaughn added that there is a general principal that more pedestrians promote safety.
Closed public hearing: 6pm
Mr. Lilly said regarding the comments of business owners who mentioned crime that he
had just spoke with Director of Community Relations Rita Lund to see if they can ask
Chief Debry for a prioritization.
Commissioner Wilson said actual function of the applicant set forth regarding principals
of the environmental were the following: more eyes helping security, more lighting,
more active safe space so she would be in favor of approval.
Commissioner Carlson said he thinks this is a great project that fits well into the
neighborhood and these facilities are great for young people, especially as a night time
gathering place in this area and great addition to Millcreek
Commissioner LaMar said this area is in a transition phase and he was hopeful that a
grocery store would happen but seeing commercial projects begin to come in is a
positive. He said he liked the project and drove by it at night and would be in favor of
the rezone for this project.
Commissioner Mumford agreed and said this was needed in the community and a good
step in the Meadowbrook area.
Commissioner Clearhout made a motion to approve ZM-17-005 located at 4142-4180 S
Main Street to rezone from M1 to MD subject to a development agreement.
Commissioner Carlson seconded the motion.
Unanimous approval.
30350 – (Continued from September 20, 2017) Russell Sorenson requests
Conditional Use Permit for a Mixed Use Multifamily Development in the C-3 Zone
Zone: C-3. Community: Millcreek. Planner: Frank Lilly
Mr. Lilly said this applicant was continuing business from the September 20th
Commission meeting and this project has changed significantly several times as this was
something of a moving target. He said Mr. Sorenson seeks a conditional approval to
develop a mixed use multifamily development consisting of 188 residential units on
13,000 square feet of commercial space on 2.3 acres. He described this as part of the
parking lot for the old Villa theatre. Mr. Lilly said there will be upgrades to Gunn
Avenue to create urban street scape interspaced with trees and there is room for off-
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street parallel parking up to 17 stalls upon final engineering. He said the residential
development is allowed under mixed use development in C-2/C-3 zones pursuant to
chapter 1932 of Millcreek code.
Mr. Lilly said the Planning Commission was asked to consider this conditional use
permit request in light of reasonably anticipated detrimental effects. The use shall be
approved if reasonable conditions can be imposed. If the applicant can meet the
standard and mitigate the detrimental effects then their job tonight is to approve if not
then more time will be taken to approve. There will be amenities like rooftop garden and
22,000 square feet of open space that is beneficial to the community with the entrance
occupying street corner. The second building is proposed along Gunn Avenue where the
amenities will include gym facilities, dog run, dog wash that will be open to the public,
and a playground of at least 1000 feet.
Mr. Lilly said they will call it the Green on Highland as nearby is Element 31 in Salt Lake
City that connects with the Brickyards. He said this is one piece to redevelop this
corridor with an emerging town center. It is urban and provides a walkable space that
will greatly enhance the walkability of the area. He said applicant had provided a
detailed package to include a proposed street walk section, garage/parking, and on
units.
Chairman Stephens asked if the interior if the white is court yards?
Mr. Lilly answered yes, that is the atrium.
Mr. Lilly said applicant has included parking study is part of their proposal. The city’s
ordinance is chapter 19.80 of the Millcreek code which imposes a base parking
requirement of 2 stalls per units with the guest parking number requirement to be
determined by the Planning Commission. It furthers empowers the Planning
Commission to change the parking standard by using documentation prepared by staff,
study by qualified engineering firm, and association or institution guidelines. Mr. Lilly
said right now the requirement is for 428 spaces which they can probably agree that is
too much for an urban environment which leaves less space for what Millcreek really
wants: good buildings, good landscaping, good streets, and good open spaces.
Mr. Lilly said the applicant has supplied a parking study with a proposal of 239 parking
stalls which is a ration of 1.3 spots per unit. He says they know that there is a major
grocer in walking distance that will shave off some the vehicle trips. Applying eligible
parking standard would change the number to 285 parking stalls – this parking
standard doesn’t apply to this zone but illustrative though in the end the Planning
Commission has the ability to make a judgment call. He said what needs to be kept in
mind is that it is grounded in city policy and be consistent in their approach. He said
absent a parking study that is their recommendation. The most significant will be at
Gunn and Highland where there will be delays with gradual to more intense uses with I-
80 nearby.
Mr. Lilly said there are 2 particular issues of concern in this use: detrimental effect on
the traffic pattern with staff recommendation of 1.5 parking stalls per unit and the other
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issue regarding adequacy of utility systems of power, sewer, storm water. Developers
need to participate in incremental upgrade of new services. Millcreek Community
Council voted 6 in favor and 2 against. He concluded by stating in general staff really
like the project as it has come a long way with an innovative style design and the
improvements to Gunn Avenue are substantial.
Commissioner LaMar asked for clarification regarding the bike parking.
Mr. Lilly answered there will be 36 bike stalls.
Commissioner LaMar asked regarding the traffic peak times on Highland and Gunn
Avenue with regards to staff concerns.
Mr. Lilly answered it doubled the wait time from 10 to 30 seconds per vehicle and he
would ask the traffic engineer to take a look at the issue including adding a turning lane.
Commissioner Carlson said traffic issues would not just be on Gunn Avenue. It is right
in the middle of the street there can be a lot of stacking there on peak hours trying to get
on to the busy street.
Mr. Lilly said there are 2 accesses.
Commissioner Mumford asked whether there would be underground parking.
Mr. Lilly was not completely certain as he thought there would be a ground level but he
would let applicant speak to fully answer the question.
Architect Warren Lloyd said he would answer questions for applicant regarding
infrastructure.
Co-Applicant Jake Christiansen said he owns 50% of the property of this project. He
said he worked with Mr. Sorenson and Mr. Lloyd on this application. This previously
had a full-size soccer field and now it has come a long way working with Mr. Lilly and
Mr. Hansen who bring a tremendous amount of expertise as well as being very helpful.
HE said height limit was reduced from 60 plus feet to 40 feet. He said there will be
increased setback from Gunn Avenue to a 20-foot setback and on 13th to 25-foot setback
which will be highly landscaped with nice outdoor space. He said parking would be
structured underground and above that would be retail space with majority glass along
with 2 floors above that.
Mr. Lloyd said there will be 2 parking areas. He gave additional details of the project:
the bigger building will have 2 elevators, there will be 2 major courtyards, bike storage, a
water feature that is on the ground level, and a dog wash. Currently, the space is a large
parking lot so their view will be improved with a large amount of grass and trees with no
blocked sunlight. He said there would improvements in the sewers and water
infrastructure. He added that Mr. Lilly said one major point is the amount of crime that
is potentially generated – right now that is broken lot as they are removing stolen cars
from the property. He said they have had discussions with other developers and there
will be improvement in walkability and community feel in area.
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Commissioner LaMar stated previously it was a lot taller, then it was 174 units while
now it had been reduced by 14 apartments.
Mr. Christiansen answered they had removed the full-sized soccer field which allowed
the building footprint to be more spread out.
Chairman Stephens said this is a conditional use so this is not the case where the
Planning Commission would be denying the applicant the ability to proceed but a matter
of mitigating what the Planning Commission considers detrimental effects.
Audience comments:
Lynda Bagley, Community Council Representative, 1250 Manor Circle.
Ms. Bagley said they asked if notices had gone out as she had talked to other people who
also had not received notices. She said she should have received a notice as she lives
within 300 feet but never did but would explain why there is no crowd tonight. She said
the motion that was made a proposal with an amendment
Speaker 1: Chris Fadowns
Address: 1275 East Gunn Avenue
Mr. Fadowns said he was concerned mainly with the traffic and said the southbound has
no center lane as you approach Gunn Avenue as it cannot be widened unless you buy
property from neighbors. He said the other problem is exit traffic leaving from Highland
Drive. He said If you add a couple of hundred cars it will wreak havoc. He said the
parking is not appropriate as Salt Lake City is like Los Angeles in that no uses mass
transit. You are not going to be biking to get groceries as there is no biking groceries
with a 4-gallon milk. Mr. Fadowns said he just wrote a check for $12,500 for sales tax in
the last quarter and this would diminish his ability to run his business. He thinks the
traffic study from the county originally had traffic as a C3 and that they are comparing
apples to oranges with mass flood of people leaving in the morning and afternoon where
retail is different. He said this space could be producing retail sells tax. He said he
personally feel bullied as he did not receive notice nor did other people he checked with.
Mr. Fadowns said he finds the noticing suspicious and he thinks this is being bull dozed
through.
Speaker 2: Chris Ensign
Address: 3468 Zarahelma Avenue
Mr. Ensign said he is the soon to be applicant across the street from Gunn Avenue. He
said he liked the direction of the project and was excited to see the growth. He said he
currently resides in Millcreek but did say the traffic is tricky. He said he hopes people
can walk to the shops. He said studies have shown baby boomers want walkability.
Speaker 3: Ryan Heath
Address: 2159 East Brindamere Circle
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Mr. Heath said he is a friend of the developer and wanted to bring up some facts as he
manages apartments. He said he manages 14,000 units and they have a 1 to 1 bedroom
to parking ratio – not units. He said this project is similar to apartments that he
manages and thinks this more than enough to accommodate regarding parking units.
He said they have seen a huge increase in value there as his brother lives in Element 31
and they do not have parking issues. There is assigned parking while the rest is shared.
He said their parking ratio is less than what is being proposed here.
Speaker 4: Lynda Bagley
Address: 1250 Manor Circle
Ms. Bagley said there were things brought up with parking as an issue. She said this
commercial and residential so there should be more parking then less. She said this
study occurred in August which is a slow month and she didn’t think it represented what
happens when there is cold whether where people use their cars more. She said she
observed another project on Highland Drive where parking was the issue and that was a
smaller unit at 188. Ms. Bagley said another thing worth noting: there is nothing as far
the storm drains are concerned from Elgin Avenue to the old Tony’s building, which is
now an old closed down bar.
Mr. Sorenson responded to the public comments by stating the staff report contained all
studies required for this parcel. He said there is no fault line, there is an engineering
design already for the flood zone, there is storm drain system that would accommodate
the storm system run off. He said they have storm water on site and will not be dumping
into it but will pay large impact fee. Mr. Sorenson said this is a huge public benefit as the
service lines will be upgraded, there will have fire protection, and brand-new
infrastructure. He said additionally the roadway will be replaced He said Gunn Avenue
will eventually be brand new with all new development paid by developers. We will be
upgrading all the underground system and benefit the visual corridor. He said he
cannot think of any detriment as there will be better roads and defined sidewalks while
all for free for the city.
Mr. Lloyd said he wanted to address the issue of people feeling bulldozed through by
pointing out they have been to the neighborhood council 3 times, and to the Planning
Commission 3 times. He said the developers were clearly listening and responding to
issues brought up.
Public Comment closes.
Commissioner Carlson said this was the right project at the right place at the right time.
He said the concern was with traffic impact and parking but the study suggested that the
lower parking stalls would accommodate this development. He said if the Commission is
asking for more parking than necessary then it would take away from the value of the
project as he was uncomfortable with that. He was still concerned with traffic on Gunn
Avenue. He said he doesn’t have a solution but it may be another issue that can be
worked out with the traffic engineer and the planning staff working out solutions to
mitigate the traffic. He said he would feel comfortable to delegate to people who have
the expertise.
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Commissioner Booth said he appreciated the patience of the developer and he also
thought the project was great addition. He said he raised family and had business in the
area. His concern was over the parking and the over reliance of parking studies. He
doesn’t know if it’s a walkable community but people’s habits can change with limited
parking.
Commissioner Claerhout said he would like to comment on the 2 bus routes as he was
familiar with the area. He said the bus route was already filled to capacity and standing
room only. He suggested perhaps UDOT needs checked into the issue.
Commissioner LaMar said there were definite improvement from previous petitions
since this was 3rd time back but he doesn’t feel like it is all there yet. He said he is in
favor of the direction of the project but the main concerns were the parking and traffic.
He said he had spent 90 minutes reading and it is little less than 100 pages but he would
like more time to digest it. He said it would be wise to get a 2nd opinion to see if issues of
traffic can be mitigated before going forward. He said he that a project this large that
had noticing issues should not be too hasty.
Commissioner Wilson said she thought the architecture exceptional with an award-
winning team and the developer has solved a lot of problems. She said her concern
revolved around the traffic degradation to level E. She said any steps to eliminate any
time idling in wait queues would be good. Commissioner Wilson said the infrastructure
improvements would need more bus service if there would be less parking and to see if it
was possible to push the mass transit a to a higher capacity which would be better for
the area.
Chairman Stephens asked staff about the notice concern.
Mr. Lilly answered he has the record of property of where notices were sent with over a
week in advance.
Alexandra Muller said the notices were also posted on the public notice website, on City
office, in the newsletter, and ran in the Tribune newspaper. She said 2 notices had been
returned.
Chairman Stephens said they only this 1 chance to get it right. He said there will be 17
stalls on street parking that should not be taken into account as there people will be
parking on the north side. The recommendation will be the mandated parking. The
traffic study is very detailed while the parking study is the not. His recommendation
would be a parking ration of 1.2 regardless of the size of the bedroom.
Mr. Lilly said there are a couple of important issues with the technical experts. He said
one option they can use is found in section C under chapter 1984 for conditional use
approval as their approval is preliminary. He said Planning Commission has the option
to say as a condition of preliminary approval that a conditional use application is
brought before the Commission before consideration of final approval.
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Commissioner Carlson said he liked that rather than have the applicant come back again
and again. He said they should follow Mr. Lilly’s advice and kick it back to staff to
address the 2 concerns on traffic and parking.
Mr. Lilly said the conditional use approval would be a baseline and then they could
address the issues on parking or traffic later.
Commissioner Carlson motioned to grant approval to #30350 for conditional use
permit subject to the condition stated in staff report and the condition that the planning
staff come up with a solution for parking and traffic issues.
Commissioner Wilson seconded the motion.
Commissioner Booth – yes
Commissioner Wilson – yes
Commissioner Carlson – yes
Chairman Stephens – yes
Commissioner Mumford - yes
Commissioner Claerhout – yes
Commissioner LaMar – No
Commissioner Mumford motioned for adjournment.
Commissioner Carlson seconded.
Unanimous approval for adjournment.
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