Appointed Committees
Regular MeetingMinot, ND · November 29, 2017
Minutes
Nuisance Animal Ad Hoc Committee
November 29, 2017
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Committee Members Present:
Josh Wolsky, Mike Ruelle, Dwayne Walz, Chuck Emery, Chief Olson,
Greg Gullickson (Sat in for Jeb Williams for the Game and Fish Department)
Members Absent
None
Chairman Wolsky brought the meeting to order at 12:30 pm.
Approval of Minutes
Mr. Walz moved the committee approve the minutes of the November 15, 2017 committee meeting.
Motion seconded by Mr. Gullickson and carried unanimously.
Hunting in Minot Framework – Continued
a. Administrative Consideration
Mr. Wolsky recapped the last meeting by saying, the committee looked at public safety
consideration, location, and management goals.
i. Application – Online/Paper
Mr. Emery said the application should be online only. Game and Fish are looking at
going to online only currently to get away from paper. Mr. Gullickson said there would
be a lot of crossover between the City and the Game and Fish having their own
application, but this would be a good thing. Mr. Ruelle made a motion to recommend the
City Council develop an online application using the recommendations from the
committee, seconded by Mr. Emery and carried unanimously.
ii. Pair up Program/Approved Hunter List
The committee discussed having nuisance calls paired up with an approved hunter. When
someone files a complaint, the caller can decide if they want their name and property
added to a list. If the property is approved for safe hunting, someone will be paired with
the property. The Committee said, they would like to see a list of approved archers
wanting to hunt as well. Chief Olson suggested keeping a list of approved properties and
allow a hunter to choose from these approved properties. Mr. Gullickson said it would be
good to have a form/letter from the City showing approval for allotted land. The
committee discussed having three lists; one for properties that could allow hunting, one
for nuisance complaints, and one for approved hunters. Mr. Gullickson made a motion to
recommend the City Council develop a program that pairs nuisance complaints with
approved hunters, seconded by Mr. Ruelle and carried unanimously.
iii. Special Wildlife Management Season – Beyond G&F Season
Mr. Wolsky questioned if the herd reduction tags need to be requested to go beyond
normal hunting season. Mr. Gullickson said the extension of the hunting season is already
in the Game and Fish proclamation to extend herd reduction tags to January 30. The
regular hunting tags end the first Sunday in January. No motion was needed from the
committee.
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iv. City Permit Fee
The committee discussed if there should be an administrative fee for handling the
application to apply for hunting in the city. Upon questioning from Mr. Walz, Mr.
Gullickson said Game and Fish does require a license fee. It is currently $30 for deer
license and $15 for a turkey license. The money acquired from the fees goes back to
Game and Fish for use. Mr. Emery made a motion to recommend the City Council check
with Fargo and Bismarck to see what administrative/process fees they may charge to hunt
in the city, seconded by Mr. Walz and carried unanimously.
v. Other
A resident had concerns about taking hunting into adjacent lands from approved property.
Mr. Gullickson said, currently under the ND Deer Hunting Guide, a hunter may enter
unarmed on adjacent land to retrieve animal that was shot on approved land. Chief Olson
thought this could be an ordinance problem with going on adjacent land to retrieve a deer
since no one posts on his or her land no hunting/trespassing in the city but it is assumed.
Mr. Gullickson said the state allows retrieval without permission. Mr. Wolsky suggested
there will be a need to provide clarity, either consent or applied consent must be given the
Committee could create a definition for posted land to retrieve game. Mr. Gullickson said
with hunters having permission from the City they should not need permission for
retrieval but it would be good to suggest asking permission to retrieve on land not given
approval for hunting. Most hunters will usually ask to retrieve a deer on adjacent land as
a courtesy. Mr. Wolsky suggested all private property without permission to hunt should
be considered posted for clarity. If a hunter must go out of area to retrieve his game, they
should have the right to go unarmed but make a due diligence to get permission before
going on adjacent land to retrieve.
Upon questioning by a resident, Chief Olson said it would help to have language that
mimics state laws and to add the language with all due diligence to request permission
before entering. Mr. Emery made a motion to recommend City Council add a definition
in the no hunting ordinance that all land will be considered posted, seconded by Mr.
Ruelle and carried unanimously.
Mr. Wolsky read from the 2017 North Dakota Deer Hunting Guide under posting and
trespass:
“Any person may enter upon legally posted land (without a firearm or bow) to recover
game shot or killed on land where he/she had a lawful right to hunt.”
Mr. Ruelle made a motion to recommend City Council to add the above language from
Game and Fish and add a good faith clause to the no hunting ordinance, seconded by Mr.
Emery and carried unanimously.
b. Other Considerations
The committee discussed if field dressing should be allowed and if on the application there
should be a check mark if a hunter will be field dressing/no field dressing for hunters who hunt on
their own property. Chief Olson stated, field dressing could attract predators. Mr. Emery agreed
and said the adjacent owners may not appreciate field dressing, so it is best to not allow field
dressing and have hunters take deer home to a garage. Mr. Ruelle made a motion to not allow
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field dressing in the City limits, seconded by Mr. Walz and carried unanimously.
Hunting in Minot Definitions
Mr. Wolsky asked the committee to better define ‘properly permitted,’ ‘sanctioned by the City’ and
‘wildlife management’. This was a request made by the City Attorney to clarify before being added to the
no hunting ordinance. The committee discussed the definition of ‘properly permitted’ and ‘sanctioned by
the City’. Mr. Ruelle made a motion to define ‘properly permitted’ as having proper licenses from the
North Dakota Game and Fish, seconded by Mr. Emery and carried unanimously. Mr. Emery made a
motion to define ‘sanctioned by the City’ as having an approved City permit to hunt in the city limits.
Motion seconded by Mr. Ruelle and carried unanimously.
The committee then discussed defining ‘wildlife management’. Mr. Gullickson said, wildlife
management is defined as "the science and art of managing wildlife and its habitat, for the benefit of the
soil, vegetation and animals, including humans." Mr. Ruelle questioned the committee if they really need
to define; being it is already defined and is described by the current program through Game and Fish. The
committee recommended removing the condition for wildlife management from previous motion
amending the ordinance. Mr. Gullickson said it would be best not to have this committee define what
wildlife management is being it already is defined through the state. Mr. Ruelle made a motion to amend
their previous recommendation, amending the hunting ordinance, to state that hunting shall not be
allowed unless properly permitted and sanctioned by the City. Motion seconded by Mr. Emery and
carried unanimously.
Feeding Definitions
Mr. Wolsky presented back to the committee, per the City Attorney it was unclear on having a definition
for bait/baiting, because the term was not used in the no feeding ordinance. After discussing, Mr. Emery
made a motion to remove the definition of bait/baiting from the no feeding ordinance. Motion seconded
by Mr. Ruelle and carried unanimously.
Chief Olson made a motion to include info of no feeding ordinance on the application, seconded by Mr.
Ruelle and carried unanimously.
Public Reporting Application
Mr. Wolsky presented the idea of having a database for someone to take a picture of wildlife in areas and
upload with a short description of what is in the photo to track wildlife numbers in Minot. Mr. Gullickson
said, he does not think there is a need to report all animals because not all would be documenting a
nuisance. Chief Olson said, the Minot website currently has a nuisance tracker where people can upload
information on nuisances in the City: http://www.minotnd.org/requesttracker.aspx. The committee
decided they do not need to create a new database but should make the public aware of the one that
already exists. Mr. Emery made a motion to recommend the City Council and Game and Fish make an
effort to educate the public on the importance of reporting nuisances using the application on the Minot
Website. Motion seconded by Mr. Ruelle and carried unanimously.
Committee Member Agenda Items
Mr. Gullickson stated, the City is not opening up to hunting but is looking at regulation on where and how
to hunt and he feels this is something Minot needs based on the number of deer/car collisions which is
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higher than he had anticipated. He said he is happy the City is trying to move in a direction to get a handle
on it. Upon questioning from Chief Olson, Mr. Wolsky said, though they have been talking mainly about
deer, this will be a blanket application for both deer and turkey. Mr. Emery said, as for geese, there are
only two problem areas: Oak Park and Souris Valley Golf Course. The Park District is looking at a
program through Game and Fish to reduce the number of geese. If the decision were made to use a
Wildlife Services Federal Trapper, the geese taken would be donated to the food pantry. If geese are
handled this way, there would be no need for hunting like deer and turkey in the city, especially since
there nuisance geese are not found elsewhere in town.
Mr. Ruelle thanked the committee to taking time to try to handle the nuisance problems with wildlife. Mr.
Walz thanked the committee as well, and said he hopes to keep looking for other ways to keep deer out of
the cemetery in order for loved ones to keep nice flowers/plants without the deer eating them. Mr.
Gullickson stated, taking away the feeding of animals should help. Mr. Emery said, the deer will move to
other areas or suffer because there will not be enough food for the large population.
Additional Agenda Items
a. Penalty/Violation Consequences
It was discussed that violating the no feeding ordinance would be an infraction and the penalty for
the new ordinance on hunting in Minot would apply a class B misdemeanor. Mr. Emery asked if
our permit rules would apply with Game and Fish Rules, for example, if a hunter were to shoot a
buck instead of a doe as per the permit, it would fall to the Game and Fish for penalty. While
hunting on posted land would perhaps fall to the City for penalty. Mr. Gullickson said poaching
would fall under Game and Fish or the hunting ordinance. He recommends following Game and
Fish for hunting rules.
Chief Olson said, there will have to be a violation sanctioned by the city if the changes are
adopted. He recommended a class B misdemeanor or require a penalty in the current ordinance.
Upon questioning by Mr. Emery, Chief Olson said, a trespass violation in the City is a class B
misdemeanor, with a maximum $1,500 fine and 30 days in jail. Mr. Emery suggested the
violation should stay a B-misdemeanor for hunting on posted land with a loss of hunting
privileges in the city for a minimum of one year. He also recommended the hunters name be
flagged in the database. Mr. Emery made a motion to recommend a penalty of class B
misdemeanor, revoke the current city permit and be ineligible to receive another city permit not
less than one year. Motion seconded by Mr. Ruelle and carried unanimously.
b. Coyotes
Mr. Wolsky asked the committee for any recommendations on coyotes and the thought of hiring a
federal trapper. Chief Olson replied that the city has occasionally done that. Mr. Wolsky
recommended the City continue a relationship with the USDA trappers and track any coyote
calls. No motion was made.
Hunting Application – Preliminary Review
Mr. Wolsky apologized for not completing an application for the committee to review but recommended
it be available online and directing City staff create an application based on the committee’s
recommendations. Upon questioning by Chief Olson, Mr. Gullickson said, the City could begin with a
permit consistent with the Game and Fish Department. Applications are usually due in May or June,
depending on the license request and a request for herd reduction tags is due to the Governor’s office by
April first. Mr. Emery suggested the City look into a lottery process if there are more applications to hunt
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than reduction tags available, or only release as many applications as there are tags available. Mr.
Gullickson said, the City would request a number of reduction tags they would like the Game and Fish
Department to review before going to the Governor and Game and Fish would need the request by March.
Mr. Walz asked the committee if the City would look at spring season for turkey hunting. Mr. Wolsky
replied, the application should state that hunting follows the Game and Fish hunting season, so yes, spring
turkey hunting would be allowed. Chief Olson clarified that spring season is in February, a hunter is only
allowed one bearded turkey, and no hens are allowed to be shot in the spring. Mr. Gullickson said the
hens are not allowed to be hunted in the spring do to nesting season.
Chief Olson brought up the issue of moose before the committee wrapped up. Currently the approach to a
nuisance moose in the city is to shoot and kill and to haze and tranquilize a moose is not an option at this
time. When a call is received reporting a moose, the police department will either shoot the moose or
leave it to be monitored and allow it to move on. If it has been chasing people or public safety is hindered,
then the moose is put down by the police department.
Public Input
Mr. Wolsky described an email sent by Natalie Oksendahl. One resident responded they did not like the
fines being discretionary and would like to see that changed. Another resident asked if moose would be
allowed on the hunting application. Mr. Gullickson replied the application is for hunting, allowing it
cover all: deer, turkey, and moose. One would just need the permission from the city and have the proper
hunting permit.
Future Meeting Consideration
The committee will stand adjourned unless unseen circumstances arise.
Summary of Committee’s Work
Mr. Wolsky said the Clerk’s office would send out these meeting minutes for comments if needed. If
something is askew, a meeting can be arranged for discussion. He said he will put together all of the
committee’s recommendations and present them to the City Council hopefully by January, either during a
regular Council meeting or at a special City Council meeting.
Adjournment
Mr. Wolsky said, he appreciated everyone attending. This meeting will stand adjourned unless an
additional meeting is requested.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 2:08pm.
Respectfully Submitted,
Lacey McCarten
Administrative Clerk
Agenda
Nuisance Animal Ad Hoc Committee
Agenda, November 29, 2017 @ 12:30 pm
Council Chambers
1. Approve Minutes - November 15, 2017
2. Hunting in Minot Framework - Continued
a. Administrative Considerations
i. Application - Online/Paper
ii. Pair Up Program
iii. Approved Hunter List
iv. Special Wildlife Management Season - Beyond G&F Season
v. City Permit Fee
vi. Other
b. Other Considerations
i. Field Dressing
ii. Game Retrieval/Entering Private Land
3. Hunting in Minot Definitions
a. Properly Permitted
b. Sanctioned by the City
c. Wildlife Management
4. Feeding Definitions
a. Bait/Baiting
5. Public Reporting Application
6. Committee Member Agenda Items
a. Emery:
b. Olson:
c. Gullickson:
d. Walz:
e. Ruelle:
7. Additional Agenda Items
a. Penalty/Violation Consequences
b. Coyotes
c. _______________________
8. Hunting Application - Preliminary Review
9. Public Input
10. Future Meeting Consideration
11. Summary of Committee’s Work
12. Adjournment
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