City Council
Regular MeetingMinot, ND · August 24, 2022
Minutes
August 24,2022 Special City Council Meeting
MINor CITY couNcIL - SPECIAL MEETING - August z4,202zAT 5:00 p.M.
ROLL CALL
Members Present:
Evans, Jantzer (via Teams), Olson, pitner, Ross, Streyle
Members Absent:
Podrygula
PLEDGE OFALLEGIANCE
Mayor Ross presiding and red the city council in the predge of Ailegiance.
BUD.GET DISCUSSION
Alderman Podrygula arrived at the meeting at 5:02 pm.
Mayor Ross addressed the council members and the public. He stated this will be a meeting
to ask questions of the Department
Heads to seek clarification. The meeting is not to be a line by line dissection of
the Fy 2023 budget. The council will go through
each department to allow for any questions on the budget.
CITY COUNCIL-N/A
CITY MANAGER_N/A
HUMAN RESOURCES
Alderman Streyle pointed out that the health benefits have not been bid since 2002. He stated
that it is essential to bid the health
benefits for the FY 2024 budget. He would also like to see an analysis of NDpERS.
Harold Stewart stated that he did not disagree with Alderman Streyle. Currently city staff is grandfathered
in on the BCBS plan.
The HR Department has already begun the RFP process to secure a consultant. The
city is going to be taking a comprehensive
look at the benefits.
CITYATTORNEY
Alderman Streyle inquired if the workload for this department would need 3 attorneys. Alderwoman
Evans responded that she
had discussed the with Kelly Hendershot and she is confident the workload would require
3 attorneys. Last year the department
add a Municipal Court attomey. The workload is heaving with council items, ordinance
rewrites, working with the contracted
attomeys on litigation, Municipal court, agreements/contracts, and much more.
Harold Stewart agreed that it is more cost effective to have the 3 attorneys on staffthan to
contract by the hour. He also agreed
that this department has a significant workload with more in the future as we look
to change policies.
FINANCE
Alderman Streyle wanted to the David Lakefield and, JennaZelinski for helping answer
his questions and providing him with his
requested information.
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY _ N/A
ASSESSORS
Harold Stewart wanted to mention that this department will most likely see budget savings
with the City Assessor due to military
leave for most if not all of 2023. Alderman Streyle stated that this was the leanest
budget and it shows the department is well
run.
POLICE DEPARTMENT
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Alderman Streyle inquired about any positions not funded in Harold's budget and if there were other areas in the department to
fund as civilian positions to increase the sworn police patrol officers. Chief Klug responded that he was satisfied with the City
Manager's budget. Chief Klug is confident that he will be able to fill all positions in December. He has currently filled 2
positions and will be doing another hiring cycle in December. Chief Klug also mentioned that there is potential to fill current
positions with civilians.
Alderman Streyle pointed out that the PD budget has increased 3 1% in the last 5 years budget cycles, which shows there has been
significant resources dedicated to this department.
Alderwoman Olson asked if it would be possible in the budget to take the money suggested to save and put it in a savings account
and if positions were to get hired those funds would come from there. David Lakefield, Finance Director, replied that the money
would end up in the general funds fund balance at the end ofthe year and then it would need to get appropriated in the future
when expensed. Alderwoman Olson had a follow up question about if the funds could be ear marked for the Police Department.
Dave stated that the money can be track if it is set aside.
Alderman Podrygula wanted clarification that if the positions remained in the budget but did not get filled the money could then
get appropriated to the PD facility feasibility study. Dave stated that it would have to be appropriated because the funds are not
committe d so it could be used for anything. Alderman Podrygula asked Chief Klug for an update on the facility feasibility study
for the current City Hall building possibly becoming the Police Department. Chief Klug said that the RFP should be posted by
the end of this week.
Alderman Streyle commented that the salary survey showed that most PD positions are getting the2.5%o raise and mentioned the
results might be hindering the PD in recruitment.
CITY COUNCIL
Alderwoman Evans asked about the consultant line item in the City Council budget and why it went up $25,000. Harold Stewart
replied that next year is when the community survey should happen again.
MUNICIPAL COURT - N/A
FIRE
Alderwoman Evans asked Chief Kelli Kronschnabel to discuss the staffing of Fire Station 5 that maybe was a
miscommunication. Kelli replied only 3 firefighters will be needed to staffthe new fire station. The Fire Department is able to
make it work because the extra staff from taking the rescue trucks offline. There will be 9 firefighters that can move over to Fire
Station 5.
Alderman Streyle asked about the capacity of Fire Station 4 out on 55th. Kelli responded that it is a fully staffed station with 4
firefighters per shift. Alderman Streyle also inquired about the theory of not having rescue trucks and only using the engines.
Chief Kelli stated that the engine is a tool box and by removing the rescue trucks it allows for the shift to take a team approach.
Alderwoman Olson asked Kelli to confirm the cost to train a firefighter. Kelli replied that it is on average 575,000 per firefighter
for training, equipment, and time.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT - N/A
ENGINEERING
Alderman Streyle addressed the two new positions in the Engineering Department that will be involved with the extra street
maintenance budgeted funds. He discussed that adding these positions are not just a one-year decision. Adding positions makes
it difficult to remove them if not needed. Alderman Streyle stated that there is noticeable work being done and he understands
that the workload is heavy. He also understands that contracting the work is an expense but adding positions is a permanent
position.
Lance stated that street maintenance projects are the usual projects that any City Engineering Department would do. He also
stated that the Pavement Management Plan is a l5-year plan showing the significant pavement backlog. The new positions will
be needed for at least l5 years and with the city growth the position will be needed for other projects. Lance also addressed that a
contracted engineering firm would charge around $160-$185 per hour.
Lance also reminded the council that 2 positions are funded by enterprise funds. Those positions are the GIS Coordinator and the
Storm Sewer Engineer. Alderman Streyle then asked if the tech positions could be shared with Dan in Public Works. Lance said
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that the Engineering Techs position deals with the rights-of-way enforcement and sidewalk
inspections. The public Works Techs
work on full-time construction inspections.
Harold Stewart asked Lance to give an update on the software improvements their department is
working on since that was also
part of the significant change in funding. Lance stated that the CityWorks project hai
the consulting funied in the Engineering
Department but IT has the maintenance funding. Essentially Engineering is upgrading the process
of u pup.. map to the GIS map
to now an asset management system' This system will allow for infrastructure maintenance
to be prioriiized based on the assets.
Licensing and permitting is still being worked on.
PUBLIC WORKS
Alderman Streyle asked Dan about the need for the Light and Heavy Operators in the budget
and what is the change in workload.
Dan Jonasson, Public Works Director, stated that the Storm Sewer Department has
been absorbing the flood protection
maintenance. These positions are meant to help with the additional workload for the flood proteciion
such as the additional pump
stations and levee maintenance. In the winter season, these positions can help with the Street
Department and snow removal.
Alderman Streyle also inquired about the City of Minot not having a global fleet management
for vehicles/equipment and if the
Public Works Department would take that on. Dan stated that they are currently looking into
this process and the concept of
moving the shop foreman to a superintendent position. By doing that transition, it would allow
for more help with fleet
management.
Alderman Streyle feels that there needs to be more checks and balances on vehicles. Harold Stewart
mentioned that with a fleet
management system it is also important to look at the financial side. Staffhas started
to discuss a VEM, Vehicle Equipment
Replacement Fund, and budgeting every year into the fund. Harold also said that
there would be a committee set upihat would
oversee the funding.
Alderwoman Olson asked Dan if he could give the council more information on the position
that could be cut in property
Maintenance. Dan stated that last year Property Maintenance asked for 3 new positions and
only received l. property
Maintenance covers 45 buildings spanning over 385,000 sq. feet. There are new buildings
coming on line such as the 42, 00 sq.
ft' City Hall downtown' The parking garages are a heavy workload with construction issues, pigeons, and system
issues. Fire
Station 5 is also coming online being another building for Property Maintenance to cover. To
contract 5 day a week cleaning of
City Hall it would cost around $85,000 per year.
Alderwoman Evans inquired why the city did not raise the sewer charges for industrial users.
Dan said the city has not had an
industrial user since Cloverdale left town. Alderwoman Evan also wanted clarification on
why the storm sewer and water did not
have an adjustment with the revenues being down. Dan stated that cash reserves have
helped in the past for the Water and Sewer
Departments but the Storm Sewer is behind with the fee revenue. That department is
behind on the storm sewer maintenance so
an increase in expenses is to get caught up.
Alderwoman Evans asked Dan to discuss the two new bus driver positions and routes. Dan
explained that one driver would
cover the new route for the new Trinity Hospital area and one driver will be for the Erik
Ramstad area. By adding these routes,
the City of Minot will be able to reach more citizens. The routes should role out in late spring
or early summer of 2023 and the
City of Minot currently has enough buses to add the new routes.
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LIBRARY
Alderwoman Evans mentioned that she was part of the Library Board that oversees the Library.
The proposed budget in front of
the council is different from what the Library Board approved. The difference was two positions
a full-time Library Assistant
and an Assistant Library Director.
Janet Anderson, Library Director, clarified that the original request to the Library
Board was for an Assistant Library Director, a
full-time Library Assistant and a full-time Library Administrative Assistant. Janet explained that
the Library Board decided they
would fund the two part-time positions to become full-time but they did not approve the Library Assistant
Director position.
Harold, Dave and Janet had discussed at the time of the preliminary budget there was not
funding for the two part-time positions
to go full-time. Since the decrease of the health benefits was a drastic change, she would like put
to the full-time Administrative
Assistant back into the budget because it would not affect the mill levy.
Janet also discussed the reasons for this change. Her department consists of24 employees
and she is one ofthe few Department
Heads without a full-time Administrative Assistant. She stated it would free up her
time as the Library Direct to do more work
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for the Library. To increase this part-time position to full-time it would roughly cost $29,000-$30,000 for the year including the
benefits.
Harold Stewart wanted to clarify the difference from the Library to the other departments. The Library Director reports directly
to the Library Board. He believes that the Library budget should be handled separately possibly in the future budget processes.
The Library is funded by property tax and sales tax and right now the concern is that they are short in their reserve funds.
Dave Lakefield stated that it is City of Minot Ordinance to keep l/12 of operating budget in r.r.-", for each department. It has
become City of Minot practice to maintain 3/12 of operating budget in reserves so that there is adequate funding if needed. Right
now, the Library complies with the ordinance but not with the best practice of the3ll2.
Alderman Streyle asked David Lakefield to estimate the shortfall in the Library's reserve funds. Dave later replied that the
Library is short roughly $207,000 in reserves. Harold did state that the FY 2023 budget has 2 major projects for the library and
they are the parking lot remodel that was pushed from the current year into next year and the remodel of the Children's Library.
Mayor Ross noted the council had been through all of the budgeted departments. He also mentioned that the next opportunity to
bring up qucstions would bc at the Budgct Q & A on Sept. 6th.
Alderman Streyle wanted an update on the digitizing of payroll and would that project need more money. Lisa Jundt, HR
Director, stated that her department is in the process ofputting out an RFP for that project and they have also been meeting with
vendors. Currently there is $50,000 in the budget and they anticipate to go live with this project 2nd quarter of2023.
Alderman Streyle asked is there was any way to accelerate the project. Lisa stated that it has to be done at a quarter and the end
of the year is not enough time with the workload being greater at end of year already. Alderman Streyle inquired about the
process ofRFP because it is budgeted for $50,000. Lisa stated it needs to go to RFP because the implementation cost is budgeted
at $50,000 plus annual maintenance.
Alderwoman Evans asked about the FY2023 showing a decrease in HUB City funding. David Lakefield pointed out HUB City
Funding is projected with a slight increase. Some of the funding is in general fund and some is in capital equipment.
Alderman Streyle pointed out people understand dollars not mills. He stated that if you look at 201 8 to 2023 budgets there is a
620/o increase. Taxable evaluations are up around 9.60/o and the salary increase from 2022 to 2023 is an 8.02%6 increase. Getting
the numbers notjust mills but dollars closer to zero would be the goal. Changing the benefit package so that it could be a
recruitment tool would be advantageous for the City of Minot.
Alderwoman Evans asked the Mayor if his thoughts were to just go into the next meeting and not have any more working groups.
Mayor Ross replied that this was the opportunity to aske questions for clarification. He felt every'thing had been accomplished
and other questions can be at the Budget Q & A.
Alderman Pitner motioned the City Council eliminate the next two special meetings and maintain the Budget Q & A session on
September 6,2022. The motion was seconded by Alderwoman Olson.
Alderman Streyle expressed that he feels the budget process is flawed. There needs to be more engagement, more transparency
and accountability. He also stated that there needs to be more discussion on the salary and benefit pieces.
Alderwoman Olson stated that council has been working with staff since May and participating in 30-40 hours of special
meetings for the budget process. Alderman Podrygula stated that council is more involved now than before with extensive tours
ofthe departments. He believes there have been assertive discussions with departments and this process has been done in a
collaborative fashion and has been productive.
Alderman Pitner feels the budget process has come a long way especially with the process starting in the spring. He did state that
it could be better and council could look at improving and changing the process. Ideas ofrearranging the process such as doing
council retreat first, then preliminary budget, then budget tours, then Q&dworkshops, then the President's letter.
Alderwoman Evans thanked the staff and felt it was helpful to have the transparency and accountabilities to the taxpayers.
Whereupon a vote was taken on the above motion by Alderman Pitner, seconded by Alderwoman Olson and carried by the
following roll call vote: ayes: Evans, Jantzer, Olson, Pitner, Podrygula, Ross, Streyle; nays: none.
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, Alderman Streyle moved the City Council meeting be adjourned. Motion seconded
by Alderman Pitner and carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 6:27 pm.
ATTEST: APPROVED:
City Clerk Thomas Ross,
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