Appeals Hearing Board Meeting
Regular MeetingMonterey, CA · March 29, 2016
Minutes
MINUTES
APPEALS HEARING BOARD MEETING
Tuesday, March 29, 2016
11:30 AM
MONTEREY, CALIFORNIA
Board members
Present: Hawkins, Stocker, Villalpando
Absent: None.
Board Staff City Attorney Christine Davi; Assistant City Attorney Karin Salameh; Chief of
Present: Police David Hober; Administrative Analysis Karen Faurot; Recording
Secretary Jenny Leinen
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Stocker called the meeting to order at 11:38 pm.
CONSENT ITEMS
No consent items at this time.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
PUBLIC HEARING
2. Reconsideration of the Decision by the Appeals Hearing Board Regarding Appeal of
Police Chief's Denial of Massage Establishment Permit - Appellant James Hendershott
DBA Cypress Studios, 580 Casanova Ave. Monterey
Chair David Stocker said the public hearing was prompted by a letter he sent to the City
Attorney’s Office. He said it was a very unusual hearing for the Board in that the issue of
hearsay evidence was brought up. Chair Stocker said he thought about the decision and
wanted to be sure to give the City Attorney, Assistant City Attorney, the Police Department and
the appellant an opportunity to discuss the issue and for the other Board members to decide if
the previous decision should be reconsidered. Chair Stocker clarified the hearing is only to
decide if the previous decision that was made was right or wrong. He said this is not a
reflection on anyone, but he wanted to be sure as this case moves forward through the system
the decision would be able to hold up.
Ms. Davi said the City Code §22-31.10(e) allows for testimony, to be represented by counsel
and to cross-examine. She said the formal rules of evidence do not apply, hearsay evidence
and any relevant evidence can be admitted. Ms. Davi the issue is the police report is the
document that would identify the officers present during the undercover operation and the
business owner was not provided a copy the police report. She said the appellant’s attorney
did not have an opportunity to identify, cross-examine, or call any of those witnesses nor were
they offered in the City’s case in chief. Ms. Davi said hearsay evidence is admissible in a
proceeding such as this one, but the question for the attorneys to address is whether the
Board’s decision can be based entirely on hearsay.
Chair Stocker asked the other Board members if they wanted to reconsider the previous
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decision of the Appeals Hearing Board regarding the appeal of the denial of the massage
establishment permit.
Chair Stocker called for the vote.
On a motion made by Board member Villalpando, seconded by Board member Hawkins, and
carried by the following vote, the Appeals Hearing Board decides to reconsider the decision of
the appeal of the decision of Chief Hober to deny massage establishment permit to James
Hendershott dba Cypress Studio at 580 Casanova Avenue.
AYES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Stocker, Hawkins, Villalpando
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
RECUSED: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
Chair Stocker allowed the Police Department to give their argument first followed by the
appellant.
Ms. Salameh said the evidence submitted by the police department was sufficient to sustain the
Board’s denial of the appeal of Cypress Studio. She said the evidence was not solely hearsay
because photographs were included showing there were condoms and alcohol present on site
and it was being used for residential sleeping purposes. She also said the photographs were
provided to the appellant prior to the hearing and were authenticated by the Police Department
as part of the evidence collected at Cypress Studio. Ms. Salameh said these reasons alone are
substantial violations and enough reason to deny the establishment permit.
Ms. Salameh said photographs and the live testimony of Police Chief Hober and Administrative
Analysis Karen Faurot were presented. She said the attorney for the appellant had the
opportunity to cross examine Chief Hober. Ms. Salameh said it is the testimony of Chief Hober
that is most vital because his decision was not based on his involvement in the undercover
operation and the fact he was well within his right to deny the massage establishment permit
according to the City Code. She said there is a parallel case here; it’s the criminal case which
has not concluded. Ms. Salameh said in this kind of situation, the District Attorney’s Office
would not allow release of the police report by the Police Department to the appellant without a
Filing Status Letter which has not been received by the Police Department at this time. She
went on to say the decision reached by the Board was not based on hearsay evidence because
in this hearing the rules of evidence do not apply. Ms. Salameh said the Board still had
sufficient, adequate evidence with the live testimony and the photographs to make the
determination. She said this was enough evidence that a reasonable person could rely upon to
find that the City Code had been violated by Cypress Studio and that the Police Chief was well
within his right to deny the permit application. Ms. Salameh said the decision should continue
to be upheld.
Chair Stocker asked Ms. Salameh if the Board was to only look at Chief Hober’s decision as to
whether the massage establishment permit should be denied and not at the whole case. He
said the Board should determine if the Police Chief had sufficient evidence to make his
determination on the outcome of the permit. Ms. Salameh said based on the photographs
alone it was shown there were condoms, alcohol, and people sleeping on site. Chair Stocker
asked Ms. Salameh if the photos were hearsay evidence. She said the photos were not
hearsay evidence because they were authenticated.
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They were also provided to the appellant’s attorney prior to the hearing.
Jennifer Rosenthal, the attorney for James Hendershott and Cypress Studio, said going forward
with the hearing based solely on hearsay evidence is a violation of her client’s rights and would
be an unfair hearing. Ms. Rosenthal said, regarding the City Attorney’s statement, the City
Code states the regular rules of evidence to not apply in this setting but the Code does not state
hearsay evidence is admissible. Ms. Rosenthal also said the City Attorney’s case is based
solely on hearsay evidence. She said hearsay evidence is traditionally untrustworthy and
unreliable. Ms. Rosenthal said she asked the City Attorney to bring the arresting officers to the
hearing. She then referenced an email that was included as part of her Public Records Act
request. Ms. Salameh objected to Ms. Rosenthal having in her possession, and reading from, a
privileged email during her argument. She stated the email in question was released
inadvertently by staff error and was not released by her or any other attorney. Ms. Salameh
said Ms. Rosenthal should have recognized it as privileged and immediately returned it to her.
Chair Stocker sustained Ms. Salameh’s objection. He then asked Ms. Rosenthal if the photos
were hearsay evidence.
Ms. Rosenthal said the photos are hearsay because they were not authenticated by the
photographer and because they do not show the location of the condom, or the location of the
beer cans, and the fact that this is obviously a residence is speculation. Ms. Rosenthal said
Chief Hober’s testimony was hearsay because he himself testified he had no involvement in the
undercover operation of the November 2015. Ms. Rosenthal said if the hearing was continued
until after the criminal case was over the police report would have been obtainable. She also
said the City failed to meet their burden of proof and did not bring forward the person most
knowledgeable to authenticate the photographs.
Public Comment
Marnie Gustafson of Federal Consulting, Inc., the owner of the property at Fremont Street and
Casanova Avenue, said everything that happens at this hearing directly affects her and the
business owner. She said she was given no notice of this hearing and heard last minute it was
being moved to 11:30 am and therefore her own attorney was not able to attend. Ms.
Gustafson said loss of the permit would cause a five year moratorium on the property and
would not allow Federal Consulting to rent to another spa or massage establishment during that
time. Ms. Gustafson said Federal Consulting did not break the law and it is punitive denying
their livelihood, their property rights, and their income for five years with the decision to deny
the permit. Ms. Gustafson said one rogue employee is not consistent with this business’s track
record.
Ms. Gustafson also said to deny her business the right, for the next five years, to lease the
property to a similar business is forcing them into a corner. She said if that is the case, then
Federal Consulting will have to consider their actions in the future. Ms. Gustafson wanted to go
on record with her statement about possible litigation against the City if Federal Consulting is
denied their property rights.
Chair Stocker closed the public hearing.
Ms. Davi said there is a threat on the record of litigation by Ms. Gustafson. She said if it is the
desire of the Board they could choose to consider this issue at a future date in closed session
under the exemption of threatened litigation under the Brown Act or they could choose to do
this publically as well.
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Chair Stocker asked Ms. Davi whether the photographs were hearsay. Ms. Davi said to
establish foundation of admissibility of a photograph, you do not necessarily need to question
the photographer, but certain questions need to be asked in order to authenticate, for example
if the photographs were a true and accurate representation of the scene on the night in question
or did the photographs aid in your testimony.
In response to Chair Stocker’s question, Ms. Davi said the Board is not questioning the integrity
and credibility of the Police Chief, but the Police Chief did testify that he was not present at the
undercover operation. She said she believes he is unable to authenticate the photographs
because he was not at the scene.
Chair Stocker asked how the photographs could have been authenticated and Ms. Davi said
that it would require the photographer, an officer who was at the scene, or a records custodian
could have said the police report was part of a business record.
Chair Stocker asked if the Police Chief would be able to make a different determination based
on the outcome of the court case. Ms. Davi said there has not been a conviction in the
prostitution case but in the future if there is a conviction, she said she believes the Chief would
have the power to revoke the permit at that time based on the conviction. Ms. Davi said she
believes there is a separate section in the City Code that would allow for revocation but would
need to research further to be sure.
Chair Stocker said it is unusual for the Board to try to balance the rules of evidence. He said he
would like to make sure at the next hearing of this type, all the rules are know in advance by all
parties involved.
Chair Stocker asked Ms. Davi if the photographs are hearsay. Ms. Davi said her feeling is yes.
Board member Villalpando asked Ms. Davi if it is true the criminal case takes precedence over
the civil case. Ms. Davi said the criminal does take precedence.
Chair Stocker asked if the City Code is clear on what the Police Chief needs to revoke this
permit and he asked if the Board is bound by the same when making a decision. Ms. Davi
there is two issues at play. She said the case can have hearsay evidence and it can be
admissible but it has to be authenticated. She disagreed with Ms. Rosenthal saying hearsay
evidence is admissible because the rules of evidence do not apply in this setting. She said the
issue becomes whether the entire case can be hearsay, and typically the case law says there
should be some sort of corroborating evidence to go along with the hearsay evidence. Ms.
Davi said the amount of evidence required and the due process afforded to both parties should
be equivalent to what is at stake. She went on to say if someone’s business license is being
taken away or their ability to do business, there needs to be due process in place. Ms. Davi
said it would appear Ms. Rosenthal was not given the names of who was at the undercover
operation that night and was not able to call any of those witnesses; they do have that right.
Ms. Davi said it is that incident which is the reason for the denial of the permit.
Chair Stocker gave each attorney time to state their case again before turning the hearing over
to the Board for deliberation.
Ms. Salameh said the photos are not hearsay because the code says the regular rules of
evidence do not apply in this setting and you can rely on them to make your decision. She
said both Administrative Analyst Karen Faurot and Police Chief Hober testified the
photographs were part of the evidence collected in the undercover operation. She said for an
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informal body such as this, it should be enough foundation to authenticate the photos. Ms.
Salameh said the issue is not whether the photos are hearsay, but whether the photographs
were authenticated and for this informal body the testimony that was given, and these
purposes, there was sufficient evidence to consider the photos.
Ms. Rosenthal said she does not agree with Ms. Salameh because authentication should come
from someone with personal knowledge or through an accepted and known hearsay exception.
Ms. Rosenthal said her client was not afforded equal access to the information the City was;
they were denied their constitutional rights; and their rights to due process. Ms. Rosenthal said
according the rules of court, the Superior Court would find that her client was not given a fair
hearing.
Ms. Davi said a part which the Board should consider is whether the photographs are the sort
of evidence that a reasonable person is accustomed to rely upon while in the conduct of
serious affairs.
Chair Stocker asked Ms. Davi if the testimony from the Police Chief was sufficient to
authenticate the photograph from the undercover operation. Ms. Davi said she didn’t believe it
was sufficient because he was not present at the undercover operation and he did not
authenticate the photos as a business record.
Chair Stocker asked Ms. Davi, in her opinion, are the photos hearsay to which Ms. Davi said
yes.
Board Member Discussion
Board Member Hawkins said the code says the formal rules of evidence do not apply here and
he feels that’s what the Board was operating under.
Chair Stocker said the City has the burden of proof and the hearsay evidence is not enough.
He said the issue for him is the City Attorney is saying that the photos are hearsay and the
Board cannot make a decision solely on hearsay.
Ms. Davi said the second issue is the objection raised by Ms. Rosenthal about not being able
to call and cross examines witnesses.
Chair Stocker said he wants the decisions of the Board to be based on real information that
would be able to hold up in court if the case went further. He also said it is frustrating to be
given evidence that is not completely clear and to be given rules that are not completely set
out. Chair Stocker said there is a learning curve with regards to this type of hearing. He
suggested at a future date a meeting should be set regarding how these parts of the hearing
should be run.
Chair Stocker said he believes the police chief 100%; but it is frustrating to hear not enough
was done to avoid issues with the decision. Chair Stocker said he cannot vote if he is being
told the hearsay evidence will not hold up in court. He said he does not want to expose the
City in that way if they would not prevail in court. Chair Stocker said part of the reason for the
various Boards is to clear up issues not compound them. He said he wants the decision to hold
up if appealed to Superior Court, so for that reason alone he said he is voting to overturn the
police chief’s decision.
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Board Member Villalpando said the appropriate thing to do would be to rehear the case. Chair
Stocker reminded Board member Villalpando the case cannot be re-heard. Board Member
Villalpando clarified that the issue currently before the Board is to reconsider the last decision.
Board Member Hawkins said he appreciates what the police are doing and what they tried to do
in this case, but if the Board did not hear the hearing properly then that is a fact.
Chair Stocker made a motion to grant the appeal and overturn the Police Chief’s denial of the
permit. Board Member Villalpando seconded the motion.
Board Member Hawkins said this sets the case for the future, but unfortunately the Board
missed this one.
Board Member Villalpando asked if the case could be brought forward in the future with new
information.
Ms. Davi said there would have to be new information, a conviction, or a violation. She said it
would be a new case going from here; it would not to start over.
Chair Stocker called for the vote.
On a motion made by Chair Stocker, seconded by Board member Villalpando and carried by
the following vote, the Appeals Hearing Board grants the appeal and overturns the decision of
Chief Hober to deny massage establishment permit to James Hendershott dba Cypress Studio
at 580 Casanova Avenue.
AYES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Stocker, Hawkins, Villalpando
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
RECUSED: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
Chair Stocker asked if the motion is an appealable action. Ms. Davi said it is appealable; it
would be the City’s appeal to the Superior Court.
ADJOURNMENT
Chair Stocker called the meeting adjourned at 12:31 pm.
Respectfully Submitted, Approved,
Alicia Salas David Stocker
Recording Secretary Chair
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Board Members
Appeals Hearing Board Daryl Hawkins
Meeting Agenda David Stocker
John Villalpando
Sharon Dwight (alternate)
Tuesday, March 29, 2016 City Attorney
M. Christine Davi
City Council Chambers 10:00 AM
580 Pacific Street
Monterey, California
CALL TO ORDER
CONSENT ITEMS
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recommended to be continued, tabled or withdrawn, etc. Consent items consist of those items
which are routine and for which a staff recommendation has been prepared. A member of the
public or a Commissioner may request that an item recommended for approval on consent be
heard on the regular agenda for further discussion.
1. No consent items at this time
PUBLIC COMMENTS
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person or group desiring to bring an item to the attention of the Board may do so by addressing
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PUBLIC HEARING
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You are welcome to offer your comments after being recognized by the Chair. The Board may
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2. Reconsideration of the Decision by the Appeals Hearing Board Regarding Appeal of
Police Chief's Denial of Massage Establishment Permit - Appellant James
Hendershott DBA Cypress Studios, 580 Casanova Ave. Monterey
BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS
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ADJOURNMENT
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