Appeals Hearing Board Meeting
Regular MeetingMonterey, CA · August 28, 2020
Minutes
APPEALS HEARING BOARD MEETING MINUTES
CITY OF MONTEREY
Friday, August 28, 2020
10:00 AM
MONTEREY, CALIFORNIA
Board members
Present: Hawkins, Millich, Glenzer
Absent: Yaqub (Alternate)
Board Staff Assistant City Attorney Karin Salameh, Deputy City Attorney Ryan Donlon
Present: and Clerk Alicia Salas
Other Staff City Forester Justin Prouty and Park Operations Manager Louie Marcuzzo
Present:
CALL TO ORDER
The Clerk of the Board called the meeting order at 1:29 pm
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
PUBLIC HEARING
1. Select a New Chair of the Appeals Hearing Board
Assistant City Attorney Salameh said that the Board would need to select a new chair to run the
meetings since there isn’t one currently.
Board member Millich made a motion to nominate Daryl Hawkins as the new Chair of the
Board.
Board member Glenzer seconded the motion to nominate Daryl Hawkins as the new Chair of
the Board.
Chair Hawkins called for the motion for Vice Chair.
Board member Glenzer made a motion to nominate Board member Millich as Vice Chair of the
Board.
Chair Hawkins seconded the motion to nominate Board member Millich as Vice Chair of the
Board.
The Motion Carried by the following vote, which was conducted by roll call:
AYES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Hawkins, Millich, Glenzer
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
RECUSED: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
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2. Minutes of Thursday, March 28, 2019
Chair Hawkins recused himself from this item.
Board member Millich made a motion to approve the minutes of March 28, 2019. Board
member Glenzer seconds the motion.
The Motion Carried by the following vote, which was conducted by roll call:
AYES: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Millich, Glenzer
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
RECUSED: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Hawkins
3. Minutes of Monday, June 3, 2019
Board member Glenzer made a motion to approve the minutes of June 30, 2020. Board
member Milich seconds the motion.
The Motion Carried by the following vote, which was conducted by roll call:
AYES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Hawkins, Millich, Glenzer
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
RECUSED: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
4. Minutes of Friday, October 4, 2019
Board member Glenzer made a motion to approve the minutes of October 04, 2020. Board
member seconds the motion.
The Motion Carried by the following vote, which was conducted by roll call:
AYES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Hawkins, Millich, Glenzer
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
RECUSED: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
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5. Appeal by Montsalas Homeowner’s Association of the Forestry Division’s Decision to
Deny the Application for Removal of One Monterey Pine Tree.
Assistant City Attorney Salameh asked the Board members if they had any ex parte contact
regarding this matter to disclose.
Board member Millich said he spoke with former Chair of the Appeals Hearing Board, David
Stocker. He said they discussed the tree briefly but it did not influence his opinion on the
matter.
Chair Hawkins said he visited the site and ran into the appellant Barbara Johnson. He said they
had a brief discussion and she pointed out the tree to him but it did not influence his opinion of
the matter.
Board member Glenzer said he did not have any ex parte contacts to disclose.
Deputy City Attorney Ryan Donlon said he would be representing City Staff for the hearing.
Appellant Barbara Johnson gave a presentation of her case as to why the Tree Permit denial
should be reversed and the permit should be granted. Ms. Johnson said she is representing
the Montsalas Board as the primary member of the Landscaping Committee who is responsible
for tree care and maintenance. Ms. Johnson said the application was submitted by the owners
of 30 Montsalas who were worried about the tree which appeared to be leaning over time. Ms.
Johnson said the Montsalas Board asked Arborist Amanda Gates to reassess the Pine tree that
she had looked at originally in 2018.
Ms. Johnson said in her opinion she thought both the reports of Arborist Amanda Gates and
City of Monterey Arborist Justin Prouty were relatively similar but came to different conclusions.
She said she thought Justin Prouty’s report concluded the tree was a low risk of falling and
Amanda Gates’ report concluded that the tree was high risk of falling. Ms. Johnson further
stated that in Amanda Gates 2020 report she noted the increase lean of the tree towards 30
Montsalas and recommended removal due to its size.
Board member Millich asked Ms. Johnson how old the tree is to which Ms. Johnson replied that
she wasn’t sure but the arborist estimated it to be about 80 years old. She said it was between
80-100ft. tall.
Mr. Donlon said the report from Amanda Gates in 2020 and the report of City Forrester Justin
Prouty largely agree that the tree is healthy. Mr. Donlon said the Gates report comes to a
different conclusion than the Forrester’s report. He said Amanda Gates concluded the tree
should be removed due to potential indicators of failure. Mr. Donlon said there is no science
that the tree should be removed.
Justin Prouty, City Forrester, said he believes where the reports differ is in the conclusion. He
said the only way to eliminate all risk of the tree failing is to remove the tree. He continued to
say his job is to determine it’s reasonable risk for failure and the potential for impact. Mr. Prouty
said he didn’t feel the tree met the criteria he uses when assessing a tree for removal.
Chair Hawkins asked Mr. Prouty what is the average lifespan of a Monterey Pine. Mr. Prouty
said the lifespan can range from 60-125 years. Chair Hawkins asked Mr. Prouty if it is unusual
for pine trees to lean to which Mr. Prouty agreed it was not usual.
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Board member Millich asked Mr. Prouty does the fact that the tree is on a leaning slope
increase the hazard factor. Mr. Prouty said it depends on how the tree has made
accommodation on the lean side of the tree. He said they develop large buttresses on the lean
side on the tree to compensate for the load on that side. Mr. Prouty said he does not think the
slope is a factor in determining the hazard.
Board member Millich asked Mr. Prouty if he considers the potential damage that could be
caused if the tree should fail? He also asked if he takes into consideration the location of the
tree, such as a tree is in an open area versus one next to an occupied dwelling. Mr. Prouty said
the standards for tree risk assessment have been developed by the International Society of
Arborculture and using the likely hood of failure and impact, a risk rating is determined. He said
this tree has a low risk rating.
Board member Glenzer asked Mr. Prouty to explain the live crown ratio he mentioned in his
report. Mr. Prouty said the live crown ratio is the total height of the tree and the presence of live
branches throughout the whole stem. He said the presence of dead twigs is a separate
measure. Mr. Prouty said in his assessment the tree had a live crown ratio of 75%.
Board member Glenzer asked Mr. Prouty about the process he used with the rubber mallet
when assessing the tree. Mr. Prouty said it tests the difference in sound, which could indicate
decay. He likened it to trying to find a stud in the wall; he said he is looking for a sort of flat
dead sound that would represent decay.
Public Comments
The owner of unit #30, Doyle Daughtry, asked the Board to come to his residence to see the
lean of the tree. He said he would feel more comfortable if the Board or a representative to see
the condition of the tree.
Eugene Smith, President of the Montsalas Homeowners Association said he intends to become
more deliberate about monitoring of the tree and providing evidence for its removal.
Board Member Comments
Board member Millich said after reviewing all the material, he believes that the tree is a hazard.
He said if the tree should fail the impact would be too great. He said he felt the report by the
arborist was sufficient evidence to remove the tree.
Chair Hawkins said he agreed with the City Forrester’s report and also stated that he didn’t
think it was unusual for a Monterey Pine tree to lean and grow that way. He said he would like
to see real evidence that the tree was leaning; he said it doesn’t seem like an immediate
danger. Chair Hawkins continued and said the tree should be monitored and would like to see
the tree stay with increased monitoring of the lean.
Board member Millich made a motion to grant the appeal of the Forester’s decision.
The motion dies for lack of a second.
Board member Glenzer made a motion to deny the appeal. He said he wants to see real
evidence of the tree leaning.
Chair Hawkins seconds the motion.
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The Motion Carried by the following vote, which was conducted by roll call:
AYES: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Hawkins, Glenzer
NOES: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Millich
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
RECUSED: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS
Board member Millich welcomed Board member Glenzer to the board.
ADJOURNMENT
Chair Hawkins adjourned the meeting at 2:10 pm.
Respectfully Submitted, Approved,
Alicia Salas Daryl Hawkins
Recording Secretary Chair of the Board
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Agenda
Board Members
Appeals Hearing Board Kent Glenzer
Meeting Agenda Daryl Hawkins
Stephen Millich
Appeals Hearing Board Meeting Nick Yaqub (alternate)
Friday, August 28, 2020 City Attorney
M. Christine Davi
Teleconference 1:00 PM
Monterey, California
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CALL TO ORDER
PUBLIC APPEARANCE
PUBLIC APPEARANCE items are reports on non-routine issues that might stimulate
public discussion, but that do not require formal noticing as public hearings. You are
welcome to offer your comments after being recognized by the Chair. The Board may
limit the time each speaker is allocated.
1. Select a New Chair of the Appeals Hearing Board
CONSENT ITEMS
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Approval of Minutes
2. Minutes of Thursday, March 28, 2019
3. Minutes of Monday, June 3, 2019
4. Minutes of Friday, October 4, 2019
PUBLIC COMMENTS
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PUBLIC HEARING
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action. You are welcome to offer your comments after being recognized by the Chair.
The Board may limit the time allocated to each speaker.
5. Appeal by Montsalas Homeowner's Association of the Forestry Division's
Decision to Deny the Application for Removal of One Monterey Pine Tree.
BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS
Board members may ask a question for clarification, make a brief announcement or
make a brief report on his or her activities. In addition, the Oversight Board may provide
a referral to staff or other resources for factual information, request staff to report back to
the body at a subsequent meeting concerning any City matter, or direct staff to place a
request to agendize a matter of business on a future agenda (G.C. 54954.2).
ADJOURNMENT
Members of the public have the right to address the Appeals Hearing Board on any item on the Agenda,
before or during its consideration [G.C. §54954.3(a)]. The Chair will formally open the floor for public
comment on items such as "Public Appearance" and "Public Hearings." If you wish to speak to items in
any other categories, please advise the Secretary to the Board or the Chair prior to the Appeals Hearing
Board's action on that item, and you will be recognized. Notification as much in advance as possible is
appreciated.
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