Disabled Access Appeals Board Meeting
Regular MeetingMonterey, CA · August 21, 2014
Minutes
MINUTES
DISABLED ACCESS APPEALS BOARD MEETING
Thursday, August 21, 2014
10:00 AM
COUNCIL CHAMBER, FEW MEMORIAL HALL OF RECORDS
MONTEREY, CALIFORNIA
Board members
Present: Chair David Stocker, Boardmember Daryl Hawkins, Boardmember John
Villalpando, Boardmember Dan Stevens, Boardmember Michael Castaneda
Absent: None
Board Staff Senior Building Inspector John Kuehl, Assistant City Attorney Karin K.
Present: Salameh, Recording Secretary Rosalia Lopez
CALL TO ORDER Chair Stocker called the meeting to order at 10:00 a.m.
CONSENT ITEMS
Approval of Minutes
1. January 29, 2014 (City Attorney's Office - 701-09)
Tabled until next meeting.
PRESENTATION
2. Receive Report on Cal Trans Review of City ADA Policy, Practices and Procedures. (Plans &
Public Works - 202-18)
John Kuehl introduced himself and welcomed the Board. He stated that the City of Monterey
was notified by the California Department of Transportation (CalTrans) of a review of the City's
Title II responsibilities. He said CalTrans conducted the audit per the Federal Highway
Administration. Because the City has received federal funding, the Federal highways
administration, the Department of Justice (DOJ), and the Federal Government need to ensure
that if funds are given to local jurisdictions, these jurisdictions follow Title II requirements as they
relate to ADA. Kuehl explained that the main reason behind the review is that is that CalTrans
received a lawsuit regarding the policies, procedures and practices because they were not
complying with certain provisions of the Federal ADA requirements. One of the settlement
agreements to this lawsuit was to formulate ADA infrastructure programs, which now go to local
jurisdictions and review their policies, procedures and practices as they relate to Title II
requirements. He said CalTrans initially came to the City of Monterey and conducted field
surveys, then held introductory meetings with executive staff letting the City know what they
were planning to do. CalTrans also interviewed specific staff members to find out how the City
was embracing the information they knew and they also reviewed the ADA transition plan to
make sure the City was in compliance with what it said it would do. Kuehl stated that the audit
went well and he views this review as a learning tool to better learn how to direct the City in
more productive ways as it relates to ADA responsibilities. He mentioned that the City will
receive a draft report of the overall review from CalTrans in 30 days. The draft report will detail
areas that need to be corrected and CalTrans typically allows 30 days for corrections. The City
will then finalize the report and that will go to the Federal Highway Administration and then to
the Department of Justice. Kuehl said once the report is finalized, he will share it with the
Board. He mentioned that Ca/Trans loved the City's transition plan and that they said it was the
best one they had seen.
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Stocker: Asked Board members if they had any questions.
Villalpando: Asked whether this was an annual review.
Kuehl: Responded that he is not sure yet. But mentioned he asked CaITrans staff whether they
were conducting reviews of every jurisdiction in the state of CA and their answer was yes.
Villalpando: Asked whether this review was similar to the ISO ratings.
Kuehl: Said it was the same basic concept as ISO however, unlike ISO this was not voluntary
and the results of the audit are utilized for a different purpose. He said in response to whether
or not CalTrans will return to the City of Monterey, that the goal is that if their preliminary report
finds that things need to be corrected, the City corrects them so that the final report from
CalTrans states that they do not need to return. Kuehl added that the City will get a better
sense of what CalTrans plans to do when the report comes in.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Chair Stocker opened public comment.
John Kuehl introduced Ms. Nina Beety. He said she was a member of the public who was
requesting an accommodation to make comments in public meetings. The current
accommodation for Ms. Beety is that she remains outside and is then called in during public
comment.
Nina Beety: Introduced herself and said she was here to speak about an emerging health
crisis; injury from electromagnetic radiation and Wireless radiation from cell towers, phones,
wireless internet, smart meters and baby monitors. Said this is known as electro sensitivity,
electro hypersensitivity or radio frequency sickness. Sweden lists it as a functional impairment, if
an individual experiences skin flushing, ears hurting or getting hot while on a cell phone, fingers
or hands hurt or numb while scrolling on a mouse they are displaying symptoms of electro
hypersensitivity. Rouleaux formation is one of the signs of injury from RF and EMF. Ms. Beety
displayed a slide showing healthy red blood cells and what red blood cells look like after
exposure to a cell phone call or was after a person was within 1.7 meters from a someone
using a cell phone. She said that this was one form of injury from wireless radiation. She
mentioned various symptoms and effects of exposure to wireless radiation such as; ringing in
the ears, nausea and vomiting, migraines and headaches, insomnia, fainting heart rhythm
disturbance, seizures, memory loss and cognitive difficulties. Hidden damage include; sperm
damage, DNA damage, cancer promotion, blood brain barrier bridges, fertility impacts, brain
wave damage Said children are especially vulnerable to wireless radiation. Ms. Beety named
several medical associations and experts that have studies and articles that consider electro
sensitivity to be a health crisis, such as The Austrian Medical Association and The American
Academy of Pediatrics. She also talked about several books and reports and said this damage
is happening from all of the wireless devices in use around us.
PUBLIC HEARING
3. Hear Unreasonable Hardship Application for 851 Munras Ave. to Install a Limited Access
Elevator and Adopt an Administrative Order Ratifying the Building Official's Decision! to Grant
Application (Tabled from last meeting on January 29, 2014). (Plans & Public Works - 202-18)
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John Kuehl reminded the Board that this item was tabled at the last meeting. The Board
requested additional information for this project. He said that since the last meeting, the City
has received two applications for this building. The first application is to complete tenant
improvement on the second floor, including disabled access restrooms. The second permit was
for the limited use elevator. Included in the agenda report preliminary floor plans. In the past
meeting, one of the main concerns was that the elevator opened up to the sidewalk creating
unsafe conditions. Said the architect to the project had revised the floor plan so that the
elevator is now completely inside of the building. The proposed elevator is a two sided elevator,
where a person can enter on one side and exit on the back side. Mr. Kuehl displayed a slide of
the existing floor plan and proposed floor plan. He said that at the last meeting the Board also
requested more specific cost information regarding the cost of a limited use elevator versus a
the cost of full service elevator and that this information had been provided in the packet. He
said a full service elevator costs roughly $170K more that limited use elevator. The second
concern was the size of the car. Said the car will have a clear opening of 36 inches, however it
will not have the full depth of 50 inches. But the two doors will allow a person to go through
rather than having to turn around. Mr. Kuehl said that as ADA coordinator he was in support of
this plan.
Stocker: Mentioned that in the Planning Commission, Board members are not allowed to make
decisions based on costs. Asked whether this Board was allowed to consider cost,
Salameh: Replied that because applicant had submitted a hardship application the Board was
able to consider cost.
Chair Stocker opened public comment:
David Elliot: Introduced himself as the project architect. This project fits into the criteria for the
hardship conditions. The estimate was $30K for the tenant improvements, normally only 25
percent of that is required. He said the building owner and tenant are trying to do what he can
to provide access and that installing a full service elevator would require extensive correction to
the building. He said a limited access elevator easily gets a wheelchair to the second floor of the
building. Mr. Elliot said that there is also a slight problem with the street level and the sidewalk
street level, does not meet the 2% side and 5% slope and the owner will also correct that will
comply with providing disabled accessible restrooms. He said that they hope the Board will
abide by the recommendation of the building official.
John McCormack: Introduced himself as leasing agent and representative of the owner. Said
he has been involved with the building for over 25 years and he has repeatedly tried to solve
this problem with the former owner and now with the new owner. He thinks this is a great
solution for the building and for the City. He said he is happy that the city is considering this
opportunity because he finds that other Cities are not as flexible as city of Monterey is to
listening to alternative items.
Chair Stocker closed public comment.
Hawkins: Mentioned that he knows the space well and think it is a good solution as it meets the
need. He said he appreciates the work and he is in favor of the project.
Stevens: Said he also thinks this will work and is glad restrooms were included.
Castaneda: Said he would like to echo the feeling and that having accessible restrooms and
access to a building is very important. Hopes they address other accessibility issues such as
lower counters and seating areas.
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Hawkins: Made a motion to approve the decision of the building official.
Villalpando: Seconded Motion.
Motion passed unanimously.
Stocker: Asked whether this was an appealable item,
Salameh: Responded that this item could be appealed to the superior court.
4. Provide Policy Direction for Alternatives When a Member of the Public is Not Able to Attend a
Board or Commission Meeting Because of a Disability. (Plans & Public Works - 202-18)
Stocker: Introduced this item and said this item was not only concerning a disability but could
possibly also be due to an illness. He clarified that the Board is not here to debate whether the
City uses wireless or the medical effects of wireless. The board is here to discuss how the City
allows a member of the public to access public hearing when they feel they can't get to the room
or be in the room.
Salameh: Said this item is not to discuss any one disability or request for accommodation but
what the City's policy will be in terms of providing an accommodation.
Kuehl: Noted that it is important for the City to set policies, procedures and practices that are
adopted and made official in order to make a formal policy that is uniformly applied. Said that
as the Board comes up with policies for different items there will be different ground rules and
he wanted to clarify that the policy the Board comes up with cannot violate another section of
government code. He added that the policy should also be within the parameter of what is
considered reasonable. Kuehl said what he is looking for from the Board is policy direction on
when a member of the public cannot attend any public meeting of the City of Monterey and once
this policy is formalized it will be added to the ADA transition plan.
Salameh: Added that the Board is here to provide policy recommendation to City Council, the
City Council will be the entity that sets the policy. They can adopt your recommendation or
reject it and send it back to the Disabled Access Appeals Board.
Kuehl: Listed the three options City staff is suggesting. Kuehl also stated that included in any of
the above referenced options is the requirement that the member of the public make an
application for this accommodation and provide a brief statement about why the accommodation
is required.
Kuehl: Option #1: The applicant may watch the item on the television or other electronic device
and place a telephone call to the City Council Chamber or other meeting location during the
public comment period and make their comments that will be entered into the formal record. If
the meeting is not telecasted, the chair or other designated person may place a telephone call
to the person so they may make a public comment.
Stocker: Commented that there are only three public meetings for the City that are televised,
therefore somebody trying to follow meetings that are not televised would difficult; asked
whether staff would have to call the person so they could listen to the entire item.
Salameh: Said that would be an option but staff is still working out how this would work with
speakers and microphones.
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Stocker: Asked how it would really work as far as interface with the public and whether the
telephone call be heard by everyone in the chamber.
Kuehl: Responded that yes, the member of the public could be heard. Phone access that is
wired into the public address system so they can be heard by everyone
Stocker: Asked if then except for the meetings that aren't televised a person could see the
presentation and follow the hearing and make a comment that would be heard by everyone in
the chamber. He also asked whether the Board or Commission would have the ability to ask
the person questions as well.
Kuehl: Responded that yes that would be possible.
Kuehl: Option #2: The applicant may provide a written comment that would be read out loud at
the meeting and entered into the formal record.
Stocker: So they could make comments.
Kuehl: Option #3: Leave the decision regarding accommodations to the ADA Coordinator to
make on a case-by-case basis.
Stocker: Asked whether option number 3 was really an option.
Kuehl: Responded that it was an option. The Department of Transportation leaves their policy
decision to the ADA coordinator and those decisions are final. This is an option and if you want
to delegate these decisions to the ADA coordinator the Board can do that.
Chair Stocker: Opened public comment on this item:
Nina Beety: Said the City is responsible for its facilities and that has to include everything. Said
she has no access to most City facilities. She said she cannot use the Library. She has
corresponded with the Library Director and that only option given is to receive books by mail or
go to the mobile library but that doesn't allow her to access maferials or resources of the
Library. Said City Hall is no longer available either. She said that as wireless use expands her
access to public facilities becomes more limited. She said she would like to be able to use these
facilities and make comments. Ms. Beety said she believes the options given are
discriminatory. Asked that the Board reject these options and that the City investigates better
option and that it provides access.
Chair Stocker: Closed public comment.
Stocker: Technology good or bad has changed public access to hearings. What would be
reasonable accommodation to allow individuals to participate with as little impediment? Option
one could work on televised meetings but difficult on non televised meetings. Said he would like
to see research on a go to meeting type program where you can see the individual and ask
questions. However he believes that for the moment, if an individual cannot attend a meeting
the City should at least utilize the telephone option, he does not believe applicant written
comment is not enough. Also, does not believe leaving the decision to the ADA Coordinator is
appropriate. Said he would like to recommend option number one with the addition that the City
investigate technology that would allow better public participation.
Hawkins: Suggested Skype interviews.
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Castaneda: Suggested more research to be sure what the City is dealing with.
Stevens: Suggested the individual wanted to make a comment sending a representative that
could communicate for them.
Villalpando: Agrees with the option one with added research.
Stocker: Made a motion that Option one is the least the City should be doing, with the ADA
Coordinator to decide whether the individual really needs the accommodation and in addition
investigate Skype time meeting.
Stevens: Seconded motion.
Hawkins: Added that to get handicap parking or to get dismissed from jury an individual need a
doctor's approval. He also asked whether the City would require a medical approval to ensure
that the accommodation request is necessary. This would be a form of control.
Stocker: Said that part would be up to the ADA Coordinator.
Motion passed unanimously.
5. Provide Policy Direction for On Street Disabled Access Parking. (Plans & Public Works - 202-
18)
Kuehl: The City received a request from an individual for a disabled parking space on the street
in front of his building. This item is regulated under title II item which falls under right of way.
The intent of right of way is that all public access to the same level of ability to get somewhere.
Explained that these types of requests go to the Traffic Engineer, who then goes to the location
and determines whether or not the City can accommodate the request When the City cannot
accommodate the request, the City's practice has been to provide a 12 Minute space. While it
is a timed space a disabled person can park there for an unlimited amount of time. However this
does not have an unloading zone along side it. The Department of Justice or Federal Highway
Administration have not given local authority permission to install a disabled access parking
space that does not comply with all of the other requirements, such as cross slope, signage and
loading and unloading zone. The City cannot have a policy that breaks the law. The City needs
to follow the standard parking requirements for installing new disabled access parking but how
can all requirements be met on street parking? What we are looking for is a recommendation
for our right of way disabled access parking to take to council for a formal policy. Gave options.
Option #1: The City shall install a disabled access parking stall when all of the following
conditions are established prior to approval:
1. There is no on-property parking available;
2. There is enough available space in the right-of-way to accommodate the 2013
California Building Code section 11B-502's required seventeen (17) feet in width and
eighteen (18) feet in depth;
3. The slope in any direction is a maximum of 2%;
4. There is a direct, code-compliant path of travel from the parking space to the entrance
to the applicant's building;
5. The path of travel may not direct the person into the street or traffic lane;
6. The parking space is located in a residential neighborhood; and
7. The applicant has a current disabled access parking license plate issued by the
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Department of Motor Vehicles.
If the above criteria have been met and verified by the ADA Coordinator, the total cost of any
improvements or construction, including the required stripping and signage, will be paid by the
applicant. The city will not reconstruct the street in order to comply with the requirements as
listed above. The applicant will also agree that the disabled access parking space is open to the
general public and is not an assigned space.
Kuehl: Said that part of the benefits of having a policy is that it will be a uniform policy. Some
nuances are what if the space met all the requirements but needed some construction work
such as sidewalk alteration or path of travel alteration, who be responsible to pay for this.
Additionally, it would be a public parking space and there would be no guarantee that it would
be available for the requesting party.
Option #2: Instead of providing a designated disabled access space, stripe and identify one
parking space as a twelve (12) minute space.
Option #3: Adopt Cal-Trans' on-street guidelines; however, where Federal standards are more
restrictive, the Federal standards will control.
Option #4: Adopt no policy at this time and instead wait until the Federal Access Board adopts
Right-of-Way installation standards.
We have to provide a path of travel.
Salameh: Clarified that this is addressing situations in the right-of-way where the City is not
otherwise doing road construction or other things that might trigger the City to adjust the slope.
This only when a resident request a disabled access parking space be painted outside their
building. We are not talking about when other requirements under ADA trigger the City's
obligation to make improvements.
Kuehl: The Federal Access Board Right-of-Way installations standards written 2008/2009 have
not been formally adopted. The Federal Access Board expects to adopt these standards by
December of 2014.
Villalpando: Asked what other jurisdictions are doing.
Kuehl: Said he had researched and there are not a lot of formal policies. Basically they mostly
follow option number one.
Hawkins: Commented that many apartment buildings in Monterey where the parking is
underneath the building. With the parking down below the building it would be difficult for a
person in a wheelchair to get up the driveway. Believes if an apartment owner needs to provide
access the apartment owner should pay for it.
Chair Stocker: Opened public comment.
Sharon Dougherty: Said she was visiting the City and walking down Alvarado Street and saw a
person pressure washing the sidewalk. Said she was concerned about water usage and the City
allowing the use of potable water on concrete when the State is in a drought.
Chair Stocker: Closed public comment.
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Castaneda: Commented that it is difficult finding parking that is not dangerous and said that
street parking does not make much sense for a person in a wheelchair. He also added that
adding accessible parking will trigger other things for the City such as whether or not the
building is accessible.
Stevens: Agreed that with Castaneda and added he does not park there.
Stocker: If a person moves into a building that does not have parking. Should it be City policy
to provide them with parking and if the City cannot provide a legal disabled access parking
space should we bother providing one?
Boardmembers agreed that it is not the responsibility of the City to provide parking for private
residential areas.
Kuehl: We could have a policy that there is no policy and wait for the Federal Highway
Administration to formally adopt the Right-of-Way standards.
Stocker: We can wait for the Federal Highway Administration.
Castaneda: Motion to select option number four.
Stevens: Second motion
Motion passed unanimously.
Boardmember comments:
Stocker: Said this is a brand new board and should formally elect a chair and vice chair at the
next meeting. Requested that this be on the agenda for the next meeting.
Castaneda: Commented that he travels a lot and an issue he has had to dealing with is that
well designed ADA compliant hotel the beds are very high. There are no regulations in the ADA
for beds. There are advocates in certain areas. He would like to educate about in Monterey with
the Visitor Center to make the City friendlier to people with disabilities.
Kuehl: Has a tentative item for November agenda but feel free to contact me if you have any
items you would like on the agenda.
Meeting Adjourned at 12:04.
BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS
ADJOURNMENT
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Respectfully Submitted,
Rosalia Lopez David St¢cker
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Agenda
Board Members
Disabled Access Appeals Board Michael Castaneda
Daryl Hawkins
Meeting Agenda Dan Stevens
David Stocker
John Villalpando
Thursday, August 21, 2014 City Attorney
Council Chamber M. Christine Davi
10:00 AM
Few Memorial Hall of Records
Monterey, California
CALL TO ORDER
CONSENT ITEMS
CONSENT ITEMS allow for a review of those items recommended for approval on consent or
recommended to be continued, tabled or withdrawn, etc. Consent items consist of those items
which are routine and for which a staff recommendation has been prepared. A member of the
public or a Commissioner may request that an item recommended for approval on consent be
heard on the regular agenda for further discussion.
Approval of Minutes
1. January 29, 2014 (City Attorney's Office - 701-09)
PRESENTATION
2. Receive Report on Cal Trans Review of City ADA Policy, Practices and Procedures. (Plans
& Public Works - 202-18)
PUBLIC COMMENTS
PUBLIC COMMENTS allows you, the public, to speak for a maximum of three minutes on any
subject which is within the jurisdiction of the City of Monterey and which is not on the agenda. Any
person or group desiring to bring an item to the attention of the Board may do so by addressing
the Board during Public Comments or by addressing a letter of explanation to: Permits &
Inspection Services, 580 Pacific St, Room 4, Monterey, CA 93940. The appropriate staff person
will contact the sender concerning the details.
PUBLIC HEARING
PUBLIC HEARINGS are held to receive public comment on certain items pending Board action.
You are welcome to offer your comments after being recognized by the Chair. The Board may
limit the time allocated to each speaker.
3. Hear Unreasonable Hardship Application for 851 Munras Ave. to Install a Limited Access
Elevator and Adopt an Administrative Order Ratifying the Building Official's Decisiont to
Grant Application (Tabled from last meeting on January 29, 2014). (Plans & Public Works -
202-18)
4. Provide Policy Direction for Alternatives When a Member of the Public is Not Able to
Attend a Board or Commission Meeting Because of a Disability. (Plans & Public Works -
202-18)
5. Provide Policy Direction for On Street Disabled Access Parking. (Plans & Public Works -
202-18)
BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS
Board members may ask a question for clarification, make a brief announcement or make a brief
report on his or her activities. In addition, the Oversight Board may provide a referral to staff or
other resources for factual information, request staff to report back to the body at a subsequent
meeting concerning any City matter, or direct staff to place a request to agendize a matter of
business on a future agenda (G.C. 54954.2).
ADJOURNMENT
Members of the public have the right to address the Disabled Access Appeals Board on any item on the
Agenda, before or during its consideration [G.C. §54954.3(a)]. The Chair will formally open the floor for
public comment on items such as "Public Appearance" and "Public Hearings." If you wish to speak to
items in any other categories, please advise the Secretary to the Board or the Chair prior to the Disabled
Access Appeals Board's action on that item, and you will be recognized. Notification as much in advance
as possible is appreciated.
The Disabled Access Appeals Board meeting packet may be reviewed by the public at the Monterey
Public Library. Information distributed to the Board becomes part of the public record. A copy of written
material, pictures, etc., should be provided for this purpose. For more agenda information, call 646-3915.
Information distributed to the Disabled Access Appeals Board at the meeting becomes part of the public
record. A copy of written material, pictures, etc. should be provided for this purpose.
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