MP Regional Water Authority TAC Meeting
Regular MeetingMonterey, CA · February 25, 2013
Minutes
MINUTES
MONTEREY PENINSULA WATER AUTHORITY (MPRWA)
TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE (TAC)
Regular meeting
2:00 PM, Monday, February 25, 2013
580 PACIFIC STREET
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MONTEREY, CALIFORNIA
Members Present: Huss, Israel, Riedl, Riley, Seigfried, Stoldt, Burnett,
Members Absent: Narigi
Staff Present: Executive Director, Legal Counsel, Clerk
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
REPORTS FROM TAC MEMBERS
Chair Burnett reported on a meeting he attended with the California Coastal Commission and
Cal Am to discuss permitting issues for the Monterey Peninsula Water Supply Project test
wells. They also discussed the process of for obtaining parallel permits and requested that the
Authority host monthly meetings to stay informed about the project application status. He
indicated that several action items resulted from the meeting for Cal Am to follow up with. Chair
Burnett also took the opportunity to recognize two staff members for their efforts toward
submitting testimony to the California Public Utilities Commission prior to the deadline on
February 22, 2013.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Chair Burnett opened the item to public comments for items not on the agenda and had no
requests to speak.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
1. February 4, 2013
On a motion by Member Stoldt seconded by Member Riley and carried by the following vote,
the Monterey Peninsula Regional Water Authority TAC approved the minutes of February 4,
2013 as amended.
Huss, Israel, Riedl, Riley, Seigfried, Stoldt, Burnett,
AYES: 7 DIRECTORS:
NOES: 0 DIRECTORS: None
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ABSENT: 1 DIRECTORS: Narigi
ABSTAIN: 0 DIRECTORS: None
AGENDA ITEMS
2. Receive Report and Discuss Outside Agency Actions Regarding the Monterey Peninsula Water
Supply Project
a. Monterey County Board of Supervisors - (Burnett)
Chair Burnett reported that the Monterey County Board of Supervisors supported and adopted
the Authority’s position statement as well as discussed the issue of the statement of principles.
The Governance committee document was unanimously approved and the Board appointed to
the governance committee the primary representative Supervisor Potter and an alternate
representative the Supervisor from the Salinas region. Chair Burnett acknowledged it as an
important step to have a united voice with all six member city mayors and all five supervisors to
have the same stance. The Board endorsed the statement of principles in general, but did not
formally adopt the position statement as their own due to pending litigation and settlement
agreement with Cal Am. Chair Burnett opened this item to public comment, and having no
requests to speak, turned to the next report from Member Stoldt.
b. Monterey Peninsula Water Management District - (Stoldt)
Member Stoldt reported on the Monterey Peninsula Water Management District Board meeting
on January 30, 2013 and approved similar actions including stronger support for Ground Water
Replenishment, and pending the identification of non-substantive changes, approved the
Governance document. MPWMD re-endorsed the concept of a public contribution as well as
several other financial suggestions. The Board voted 6-0 to oppose surcharge two. The issues
of project sizing and a general statement of support were deferred to a special meeting on
February 12, 2013 where the Board agreed with the demand forecast and project sizing, with
and without GWR, as well as reconsidered Surcharge 2, voting 4 to 2 to support it.
Chair Burnett opened the item for comments from the public. Sue McCloud spoke to a letter
published in the Monterey Herald opinion page from Member Stoldt, thanking him for making a
complicated project more understandable to the public. She then suggested publication of the
same Article in the Salinas Californian. Nelson Vega questioned why Member Stoldt did not
include the costs per acre foot because he thinks the public is only concerned about the cost
and if the project can be built He then requested that the Authority help Cal Am attain the source
water need for the MPWSP project. With no further requests to speak, Chair Burnett closed
public comment.
c. Monterey Regional Water Pollution Control Agency - (Israel)
Member Israel deferred to report on this item until Agenda Item 4.
d. Monterey Regional Waste Management District Presentation of Availability of Landfill Gas for
Power Generation (W. Merry)
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William Merry from the Monterey Regional Waste Management District made a presentation on
efforts to make the landfill gas (LFG) to energy project viable enough to sell power to a
desalination facility. The District has been producing energy through the landfill gas to energy
program for 30 years. Mr. Merry discussed that the LFG program is an economic benefit for a
small to medium landfill however there have been many lessons learned over the course of the
project. He observed that when the developer began the project in 1983, energy prices declined
immediately even though PG&E had forecast a rise in prices, and the developer sold the LFG
project to the District. In the beginning years of operating the project, revenues fell short of
operating expenses. Lesson learned: be critical of forecasts.
Mr. Merry then discussed different types of power purchase agreements and optimal markets to
sell their converted power and indicated that PG&E has a strangle hold on small biomass
generators adding new generation to the grid. That would be a disincentive to go forward with
energy production, but an agreement with the MPWSP project would be an “over the fence” or
direct access agreement and would eliminate most or all PGE fees. He also indicated that the
District currently has the opportunity to sell gas as boiler fuel and in the future is considering
increasing generation of energy to 7 megawatts. Mr. Merry also explained that the District is
exploring the option to turn the landfill gas into compressed natural gas to fuel vehicles and
currently has an informal agreement with the MRWPCA to explore options for converting biogas
to CNG to run vehicles on the alternative fuel. Mr. Merry further explained that efforts to
diversify opportunities to utilize landfill gas is a redundancy that small producers can use to stay
profitable. He encouraged the Authority to urge Cal Am to consider the District energy as a way
to close the loop by buying local energy.
Items/challenges that would need to be addressed if the MPWSP would consider Purchasing
power from the District:
The district is actively engaged in making decisions for the next 10 to 20 years. They
need to use the LFG productively or flare it off.
Addressing the imbalance: if the demand is higher than the supply? On a growth scale.
They are producing 24/7. Tolerance for supply changes
Identification of the redundancy requirements
Identification of the demand including: continuous, average demand; maximum; and
seasonal
Identification of the tolerance for electric power supply to be down (in the event of a
PG&E mandated shut down, or Natural Disaster)
What is facility’s power redundancy requirements/plan
What is facility’s anticipated down time?
What would MPWSP be willing to pay for power on a kilowatt-hour basis? District will
need to be paid at market rates
When would MPWSP wish to negotiate, sign a power sales agreement?
Mr. Merry answered questions from the TAC. Member Siegfried asked if the District had the
ability or would consider selling the LFG in raw form to the desal facility instead of processing it
at your facility, so that the facility would be able to use that heat generated during combustion
to make the process more efficient. Mr. Merry responded by discussion of the supply source
and lifespan of the landfill. Regulations from the state are requiring greater diversion from the
landfill. On the waste water side, there is a push to develop power generation through solids.
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Over the last 5 to 7 years, the generation of in-District (ie, from the Peninsula) waste to the
landfill has decreased by 35% which is for a variety of reasons, including a fundamental shift by
consumers to buy smaller and construction and demolition waste has been repressed from the
economy. Contracts for bringing waste from other areas is making up for lost tonnage and
revenues and even with those contracts the District has an anticipated lifespan of 150 more
years. He indicated that the District property sits adjacent to the PG&E natural gas pipeline
serving the Peninsula and within a year or two may have the ability to feed natural gas into the
pipeline for sale.
Member Stoldt asked about proven reserves for landfill gas. Mr. Merry indicated that an
average forecast for LFG was thought to be 20 years, 30 to 40 years in a drier environment.
The District, however, is still generating gas from the part of the landfill that was filled 50 years
ago. In future years, they are looking at minimizing what is going into a landfill, but collection of
landfill gas will continue for the next 20 to 40 years.
Mr. Merry responded to the question about current power sales costs and indicated that power
the District sells as renewable in the bay area is making 8.5 cents per kilowatt-hour, whereas
PG&E is paying 7 to 8 cents. Two years ago renewable power could be sold for 10 cents/kw-hr,
or more, but depends on markets as solar and Wind overbuilt. Over the fence agreements are
advantageous because there are fewer fees and processing charges.
Chair Burnett opened for public comment. Libby Downey questioned the market rate of power
and how Marina Coast was able to get a better rate. She expressed frustration at the statement
made by Cal Am Representative Rich Svinland that the MPWSP would not purchase power
from any company outside of PG&E. Nelson Vega questioned the reliability of the power in the
event of a disaster and also questioned the financial ability to weather price fluctuations. With
no further requests to speak, Chair Burnett closed public comment.
Mr. Merry responded to Mrs. Downey, indicating that the District did hold preliminary
discussions with Marina Coast about price, but discussions did not proceed to the point of
agreeing on a price before other more pressing matters demanded attention at the MCWD. He
also clarified to her that the District will always look to make decisions that are in the best
interest of the residents, businesses and member agencies of the District. Speaking to Mr.
Vega's comment about reliability, if they were to form an agreement there would be
redundancies built into the system such as a contract with PG&E, the ability to tap into the
natural gas pipeline, or other options.
Mr. Merry urged the TAC to consider if purchasing power at the lowest possible cost was a
prime objective, even if it was not renewable power; and further, if it was important to buy
renewable power, was it a primary objective to purchase the power from the District, as
opposed to buying renewable power from a broker.
Chair Burnett clarified that one of the Authority adopted positions includes having direct
decision making ability with regard to the procurement of all non PG&E power. The pending
Governance committee could work together with the District on this issue.
3. Report from Cal-Am Regarding Test Well Design, Development and Permitting
Cal Am Representative Richard Svindland updated the TAC regarding the test well design,
development and permit progress indicating that there is a meeting scheduled with the
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company Semex this week to finalize their permission to proceed by accepting the operation
will not affect their ability to harvest sand. This permission is needed to be able to submit for
permits before the Coastal Commission as early as August, and as late as October, in time to
construct prior to the snowy plover nesting season.
Mr. Svindland reported that design is under way, using the first presented design and modifying
for the current site. The process of procuring the test well has begun with intention to drill
November 1, 2013. This schedule does include the process of obtaining the permits from City
of Marina. He then answered questions from the TAC.
Chair Burnett opened the item for public comment, having no requests to speak, closed public
comment. He requested at the next TAC meeting that Cal Am provide an update on all eight
conditions the Authority has approved.
4. Receive and Discuss Update on Ground Water Recharge, Aquifer Storage and Recovery, and
Pacific Grove Small Water Projects
Member Israel reported that MRWPCA approved a budget for Groundwater Replenishment at a
Special MRWPCA Board meeting on February 11. He also noted that the Pollution Control
Agency has been analyzing the downward wastewater flows trend, and projections for flows in
different scenarios, including combining other water sources. The PCA still anticipates the
project being completed on schedule by December 2016. Member Israel expressed gratitude
for the article in the Newspaper from the Water Management District as well as from the
Authority.
Member Israel then expressed concern that over the last year there has not been a significant
amount of money or effort on public outreach as budget approval was delayed. With this type
of project there are many issues and misconceptions, many being factual information,
competing with opinion and interpretation. The MRWPCA is intending to ramp up efforts
including scheduling trips to Orange County to work with staff that has a great outreach
program which they can learn from. Member Israel answered questions from the TAC.
Chair Burnett offered that as the public outreach effort begins, please look to Mayors and
Authority as a partner expressing the idea that the message and the messenger are important.
The Mayors have been unanimous in support of GWR and they should be used as a resource.
Member Riley expressed concern about the Authority’s future decision points undermining the
commitments of the PCA in the future. The TAC discussed the ability of the project to proceed,
the commitments that have been made and the potential hurdles that could obstruct the
process.
Chair Burnett opened the item to public comment. Nelson Vega spoke to the cost of water, and
the unresolved issue of source water. He requested that the TAC encourage the Authority to
request an extension to the Cease and Desist Order deadline and look at the most cost
effective way to get water. Jim Cullem spoke to and provided an article from the MIT
Technology Review Magazine indicating concerning points include the availability of funding for
public outreach and encouraged the Authority to be more proactive and focus on the public
outreach and the potential for GWR, with the yuck factor. Suggest we preempt with good
examples of effective GWR campaigns so people understand the water cycle before it is placed
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in the Seaside Aquifer. With no further requests to speak, public comment was closed.
Burnett responded that the Authority is working to re-engage the State Water Board on having
a periodic meeting regarding the CDO but clarified that they Authority would not be requesting
an extension at this point, but engaging now with the Board will allow them to see the progress
the region is making which will only help if they do ask for an extension in the future. The TAC
discussed optional outreach methods and tours that would help engage and educate the public
and local agencies on this issue, but refocused to say the goal is to focus efforts and keep
things moving at this time.
Member Stoldt then reported on the Monterey Peninsula Water Management District’s ASR
project indicating that six of the eight wells have been constructed. The Third and fourth well
are owned and operated at the Seaside Middle school and will be completed during summer
vacation. Wells five and six are part of the application for MPWSP. Permits will be restructured
to accept water from anywhere instead of a specific source. There is an eight well total capacity
at this time, and could potentially increase to 10 in the future. Additionally the WMD is
expanding a back flush pit for the third and forth site. He reported that funding is strong, and
progress is strong. Chair Burnett opened the ASR discussion for public comment, and having
no requests to speak, closed public comment.
Israel made a clarifying statement that bringing in more stormwater to the sewer system would
be beneficial for projects, such as the Groundwater Replenishment and other recycled water
projects. He also commented on the role of storm water indicating the PCA is exploring the
use of the winter water flows and that Pacific Grove has been using grant funding to divert
storm water from the bay, and wants to develop projects to help encourage the community to
divert storm water flow from the bay back to the PCA.
5. Receive Testimony Submitted to California Public Utilities Commission February 22, 2013
Deadline for Application (A- 12-04-019) Based on the MPRWA Approved Position Statement
(Information Only)
Burnett spoke to the item and indicated it was for information only then opened the item to the
public for comment. Having none, closed public comment.
Executive Director Reichmuth clarified the agenda items for the next meeting. Having no further
business to come before the TAC, Chair Burnett adjourned the meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
Respectfully Submitted, Approved,
Lesley Milton, Committee Clerk President MPRWA
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Agenda
Agenda
Monterey Peninsula Regional Water Authority (MPRWA)
Technical Advisory Committee (TAC)
Regular meeting
2:00 PM, Monday, February 25, 2013
580 Pacific Street
City Council Chambers
Monterey, California
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
REPORTS FROM TAC MEMBERS
PUBLIC COMMENTS
PUBLIC COMMENTS allows you, the public, to speak for a maximum of three minutes on any
subject which is within the jurisdiction of the MPRWA TAC and which is not on the agenda. Any
person or group desiring to bring an item to the attention of the Committee may do so by
addressing the Committee during Public Comments or by addressing a letter of explanation to:
MPRWA TAC, Attn: Monterey City Clerk, 580 Pacific St, Monterey, CA 93940. The appropriate
staff person will contact the sender concerning the details.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
1. February 4, 2013
AGENDA ITEMS
2. Receive Report and Discuss Outside Agency Actions Regarding the Monterey Peninsula
Water Supply Project
a. Monterey County Board of Supervisors - (Burnett)
b. Monterey Peninsula Water Management District - (Stoldt)
c. Monterey Regional Water Pollution Control Agency - (Israel)
d. Monterey Regional Waste Management District Presentation of Availability of
Landfill Gas for Power Generation (W. Merry)
3. Report from Cal-Am Regarding Test Well Design, Development and Permitting
4. Receive and Discuss Update on Ground Water Recharge, Aquifer Storage and Recovery,
and Pacific Grove Small Water Projects
5. Receive Testimony Submitted to California Public Utilities Commission February 22, 2013
Deadline for Application (A- 12-04-019) Based on the MPRWA Approved Position
Created date 09/13/2012 12:00 PM Monday, February 25, 2013
Statement (Information Only)
ADJOURNMENT
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