Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting
Regular MeetingMonterey, CA · March 19, 2015
Minutes
MINUTES
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
Regular Meeting
Thursday, March 19, 2015
7:00 PM
COUNCIL CHAMBER, FEW MEMORIAL HALL OF RECORDS
MONTEREY, CALIFORNIA
Commissioners Present: Baldwin, McCarthy, McEwen, Perske, Spangler
Commissioners Absent: Carnazzo, Menendez-Herbst
Staff Members Present: Community Services Director Kim Bui-Burton, Recreation and
Community Services Manager Cindy Vierra, Sports Center Jeff
Vierra, Park Operations Manager Louie Marcuzzo, Principal
Planner/NIP Coordinator Jeff Krebs, Senior Engineer Laurie
Williamson, Principal Engineer Robert Harary, Recreation
Coordinator Sara Ziel, Recreation Coordinator Nate Cota,
Recreation Coordinator Ksenia Berkoff, Recreation Coordinator
Rachel Deis, Recording Secretary Teresa Nash
CALL TO ORDER
CONSENT ITEMS
Approval of Minutes
1. Thursday, January 15, 2015
Action: Approved as submitted (5-0-2, Carnazzo, Menendez-Herbst absent).
***End of Consent Agenda***
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
PUBLIC APPEARANCE
2. Receive Dennis the Menace Park Train Engine Accessibility Report and Provide
Direction to Staff
Action: Report received. Direction given to staff to hold a public meeting for the
community’s review and input; if major changes are presented it will come back to the
Parks and Recreation Commission for review; if no major changes are presented it will
go on to City Council for their review and approval (5-0-2, Carnazzo, Menendez-Herbst
absent).
Community Services Director Bui-Burton introduced Senior Engineer Laurie Williamson who will
give the presentation.
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Senior Engineer Williamson said the train was built in 1924 and when it was retired in 1956, it
was donated to the City and moved to Dennis the Menace Park. In 2000, the State of California
established minimum safety standards for playground equipment and it was determined that the
train engine was not in compliance. Since that time, the City has installed a warning sign
requiring adult supervision and declaring the train to be an historical exhibit and a white picket
fence was also installed around the train. In 2011, City legal and risk management staff
provided a playground safety compliance analysis and concluded the train was not in
compliance with current playground safety requirements. In February 2012, a five-foot chain-
link fence was installed as a temporary measure to prevent public access to the train. In
December 2012, the firm of MIG, Inc. was hired to review the existing conditions and found
there may be alternatives to removing the train from the park. In August 2013, a permanent
decorative black metal fence restricting access to the train was installed. In FY 2013-2014, the
Neighborhood Improvement Program (NIP) funded a study for $35,000. In 2014, MIG, Inc. met
with staff, did research and site visits and completed a draft report for the City.
Senior Engineer Williamson said the results of the report states The existing steam train
contains many opportunities for injury, including: head entrapment, protruding features and
vertical angles that may cause strangulation, heights that may result in serious injury from falls,
and railings that do not provide adequate safety or protection. The consultants conclude that
“therefore, climbing on and over the train is not a viable option due to safety and accessibility
concerns.” She stated MIG’s recommendations focus on restoration where the train may be
maintained as an integral part of the playground by restoring components of the existing train,
proving limited access to areas on the side of the train modified to eliminate safety hazards, and
providing additional elements that support play and learning. This includes ideas for enhancing
play value through the inclusion of train yard elements adjacent to the train, such as: a custom
sculptural train play structure, operational interactive controls, i.e. train whistle, bell, headlamp,
etc., play activity panels that are train-related, a “kid-sized” train station or ticket booth, platform
adjacent to the train, and an accessible ADA ramp from ground level to the platform. She said
the Concept Plan is to relocate the fencing, add a play structure that kids can climb on, add a
train platform with benches and a ticket booth, add a water tower structure, and be able to see
inside the train cab.
Senior Engineer Williamson noted that NIP only funded the design study portion of this
proposed project, not the construction.
Commissioner McCarthy noted that access to the train is important and asked if staff have
talked to any kids to see if they are interested in a design like this. Senior Engineer Williamson
stated no but that MIG is a playground design firm and have a lot of experience in playground
design.
Commissioner Baldwin inquired if there has been a public review of this plan where the
consultants could present the plan in detail to the community. Community Services Director
Bui-Burton said typically the Parks and Recreation Commission (PRC) meeting is the forum for
public comments,
Principal Engineer Robert Harary said the presentation of the draft plan was discussed and in
order to save costs, staff presented the plan. He said no separate meeting was planned.
Senior Engineer Williamson also noted the draft plan was sent to Bryan Flores and Clayton
Payton, members of the “Save the Dennis the Menace Park Train” community group and they
both liked the design.
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Commissioner McEwen said it is a beautiful design and very elegant solution to have a kid-sized
train for them to play on safely with several fun elements; we should build on what we have and
not waste it.
Commissioner Perske asked if the cost estimate includes design and engineering fees; and
does staff know how much that would be? Principal Engineer Harary stated this may be a
phased project; we have to go to NIP to request funding. He stated it’s at least $300,000 if built
today.
Commissioner Spangler said her 10 year old son and friends have great memories of the old
train and it would be hard for them not to find a way to get in or on the train. She likes the ticket
booth idea and suggesting having the kids pay a quarter to get a token to make a train whistle
blow; overall I think it’s really great and would make a great statement when you walk into the
park. She also noted that it’s not too far off from the Centennial of when the train engine was
built in 1924; it would be fun to celebrate that.
Sharon Dwight, NIP Alternate Spokesperson, said that NIP funded the design because we
wanted the kids to have some access to the train. It would be great to have a public meeting on
this so the community can have their input. She said with the new rules for ADA access, we
must have all the funding before we can do the project; it may have to be done in phases. She
said this plan does not show how the design relates to Dennis the Menace Park; we need to
know how it fits in with the entire park and how much space will it take up.
Recreation Coordinator Cota said he envisioned having a train whistle or steam with a
freestanding clock so you know when it’s going to go off. He suggested where the platform
ends, we could continue to raise the platform so the kids could go through the cab; also look
into putting in a scale train and sell tickets for that.
Commissioner Baldwin stated as a former playground safety inspector, we knew there was no
way we could make access to the train safe and meet playground safety standards.
Commissioner Perske said removing the train should still be considered as an option due to the
cost.
Commissioner McCarthy said this issue has had a lot of public input already and feels we need
a cost benefit analysis before paying $250,000-$300,000 for the construction of this draft plan;
that’s the value of having a public meeting; we need to do that before it moves forward to the
City Council.
Community Services Director Bui-Burton affirmed the commission feels a public hearing should
be done next to include community input on the draft plan, discuss future maintenance of the
train, and noted several commissioners are concerned with the cost of this project.
Sharon Dwight, NIP Alternate Spokesperson, stated the cost of everything has gone up, so to
the NIP Committee we may have to do this project in phases, $300,000 is not a lot of money.
On a motion by Commissioner McEwen, seconded by Commissioner Spangler, and carried by
the following vote, the Parks and Recreation Commission received the Dennis the Menace Park
Train Engine Accessibility Report and provided direction to staff to hold a public hearing for the
community’s review and input; if major changes are made it will come back to the commission
for review and approval before going to the City Council for their review and approval:
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AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Baldwin, McCarthy, McEwen, Perske,
Spangler
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Carnazzo, Menendez-Herbst
3. Review Park and Recreation Related Proposed Neighborhood Improvement Program
(NIP) Projects for Fiscal Year 2015-2016 for Conformity to the Parks and Recreation
Master Plan and Advise the NIP Committee of Inconsistencies with the Parks and
Recreation Master Plan
Action: Item tabled; a special meeting will be scheduled for review due to new
information provided (5-0-2, Carnazzo, Menendez-Herbst absent).
Commissioner Baldwin stated that new information was provided today that the commission and
staff have not reviewed; he proposed tabling this item to a special meeting; noting it is time
critical to meet prior to March 31.
Bill McCrone inquired why this item is being continued and what information was newly
discovered.
Commissioner Baldwin stated the Beach Master Plan of 1992 makes references to certain items
listed as proposed 2015-2016 NIP projects. He said that the commission and staff need time to
review this new information as it relates to the parks and recreation related projects.
Community Services Director Bui-Burton stated staff will set up a special meeting and will send
the agenda packet to individuals who are interested in attending that meeting.
On a motion by Commissioner Perske, seconded by Commissioner McEwen, and carried by the
following vote, the Parks and Recreation Commission tabled this item due to new information
provided; a special meeting will be scheduled prior to the March 31 deadline for the Parks and
Recreation Commission to review proposed NIP projects:
AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Baldwin, McCarthy, McEwen, Perske,
Spangler
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Carnazzo, Menendez-Herbst
4. Highlights of Community Center Programs
Action: Presentation received.
Recreation Coordinator Sara Ziel gave a Power Point presentation highlighting community
center programs and provided the Commission with enrollment statistics and other pertinent
program information.
Commissioner Perske noticed there are no duplicate classes and asked how staff decides
where to hold the classes. Recreation and Community Services Manager Vierra said some
instructors may only want to teach at a certain center; and staff works together to come with
locations and different curriculum.
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Commissioner Baldwin inquired how many teens and youth does the Youth Center have on a
daily basis. Recreation Coordinator Cota said they have a core group of kids that come, and on
some Thursday nights we may have 30 or more. We also work with Colton Middle School to
have school dances. Commissioner Perske asked if many high school kids use the Teen
Room. Coordinator Cota said they have some, but they don’t want to hang out with seventh
graders.
Commissioner Spangler said she has two kids in the gymnastics program and they love it; Miss
Renee does a great job.
Commissioner Baldwin said to please tell all the community center staff members that we were
really impressed.
INFORMATIONAL REPORTS & STAFF COMMENTS
5. Monthly Report - Parks Division - January 2015
Action: Report received.
6. Monthly Report - Parks Division - February 2015
Action: Report received.
Park Operations Manager Marcuzzo reported the Portland Loo has been installed at the Transit
Station, and the 59th Annual Cutting Day is this Saturday in Friendly Plaza.
Recreation and Community Services Manager Vierra reported staff is wrapping up summer
recruitment and the application deadline is tomorrow; the Junior Track and Socko programs are
beginning and the Summer/Fall 2015 Activities guide will be out March 30 with registration
beginning April 1. She also reported that tomorrow all three preschools will be at Hilltop Park
Center for a community helper’s day; Scholze Park Center held their monthly luncheon this
week with 100 seniors attending; staff is working on new marketing ideas; and we have a new
Regular Part-time Administrative Assistant starting in our office on March 30.
Sports Center Manager Vierra said they are filled to capacity in some areas and commended
the Sports Center staff. He reported that camp programs start next week for the school break;
many outside groups are using the pools; the Special Olympics group just finished with
basketball and now their swimming program begins for training for this year’s Special Olympic
events; Bay View Academy is there for morning and afternoon session; Trinity Christian High
School and AB Ingraham are there on Wednesdays; and we will be participating in a few
upcoming parades.
Recreation and Community Services Manager Vierra reported the World Games for Special
Olympics Torch Run will go through Monterey on a short route on the Recreation Trail from San
Carlos Beach Park to the Wharf; the World Games for Special Olympics has not been in the
United States for 16 years.
Recreation Coordinator Cota said the new turf soccer field at Laguna Grande Park is really nice
and is always in use. Commissioner McCarthy asked if the soccer field can be reserved.
Recreation and Community Services Manager Vierra stated yes, with a fee.
Commissioner Perske inquired if Monterey has problems with all the dead sea lions. Park
Operations Manager Marcuzzo stated not here, but up in Santa Cruz. Community Services
Director Bui-Burton stated the launch ramp by the Coast Guard Pier has been closed off due to
the number of sea lions coming up onto the ramp and docks.
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Community Services Director Bui-Burton reported that Monterey High School Baseball has
made the decision to not have fundraisers at Sollecito Ballpark; the City is reviewing
requirements that all groups would have to follow for selling food and getting the required
licensing. She said several of our centers have partnerships with outside organizations, the
Youth Center has the community homeless youth group, Scholze Park Center has many groups
whose programs really make a difference for the seniors; she is proud of the work we do. She
noted that staff met with Principal Planner Elizabeth Caraker who will be working on the Parks
and Recreation Master Plan Update and reviewed the schedule. She said staff is working on
the budget process, and this year City departments are submitting a two-year budget.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner Spangler said she feels very thankful for the hard work of the staff and that her
children get to benefit from it.
Commissioner McCarthy said after a long day of work, it’s nice to come here and see all this
good stuff going on.
Commissioner McEwen said these meetings are such a positive part of her day; she thanked
everyone for their hard work.
Commissioner Baldwin said he is thankful for what we have in Monterey; and told staff that we
do appreciate all of your hard work.
Commissioner McCarthy said “visit a park!”
NEXT MEETING
Thursday, April 16, 2015
ADJOURNMENT
Chair Baldwin adjourned the meeting at 8:19 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted, Approved,
Kim Bui-Burton Vance Baldwin, Chair
Community Services Director Parks and Recreation Commission
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Agenda
Parks and Recreation
Commissioners
Commission Vance Baldwin, Chair
Agenda Ellen McEwen, Vice Chair
Regular Meeting Daniel Carnazzo
Dennis McCarthy
Thursday, March 19, 2015 Suzanne Menendez-Herbst
Council Chamber Louis Perske
Few Memorial Hall of Records Lacy Spangler
7:00 PM
Monterey, California
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
CONSENT ITEMS
CONSENT ITEMS allow for a review of those items recommended for approval on consent or
recommended to be continued, tabled or withdrawn, etc. Consent items consist of those items
which are routine and for which a staff recommendation has been prepared. A member of the
public or a Commissioner may request that an item recommended for approval on consent be
heard on the regular agenda for further discussion.
Approval of Minutes
1. Thursday, January 15, 2015
***End of Consent Agenda***
PUBLIC COMMENTS
PUBLIC COMMENTS allows you, the public, to speak for a maximum of three minutes on any
subject which is within the jurisdiction of the Monterey Parks and Recreation Commission and
which is not on the agenda. Any person or group desiring to bring an item to the attention of the
Commission may do so during Public Comments or by addressing a letter of explanation to:
Recreation and Community Services Director, 546 Dutra Street, Monterey CA 93940. The
appropriate staff person will contact the sender concerning the details.
PUBLIC APPEARANCE
PUBLIC APPEARANCE items are reports on action or informational issues that might stimulate
public discussion, but that do not require formal noticing as public hearings. You are welcome to
offer your comments after being recognized by the Chair. The Chair may limit the time allocated to
each speaker.
2. Receive Dennis the Menace Park Train Engine Accessibility Report and Provide Direction
to Staff
3. Review Park and Recreation Related Proposed Neighborhood Improvement Program
(NIP) Projects for Fiscal Year 2015-2016 for Conformity to the Parks and Recreation
Master Plan and Advise the NIP Committee of Inconsistencies with the Parks and
Recreation Master Plan
4. Highlights of Community Center Programs
INFORMATIONAL REPORTS & STAFF COMMENTS
INFORMATIONAL REPORTS & STAFF COMMENTS supply the Commission with written or oral
information that they may wish to discuss or take action by placing the item on a future agenda.
5. Monthly Report - Parks Division - January 2015
6. Monthly Report - Parks Division - February 2015
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
COMMISSIONERS may ask a question for clarification, make a brief announcement or make a
brief report on his or her activities. In addition, a Commissioner may provide a referral to staff or
other resources for factual information, request staff to report back to the body at a subsequent
meeting concerning any City matter, or direct staff to place a request to agendize a matter of
business on a future agenda. (G.C. 54954.2)
NEXT MEETING
Thursday, April 16, 2015
ADJOURNMENT
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