Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting
Regular MeetingMonterey, CA · May 19, 2016
Minutes
MINUTES
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
Regular Meeting
Thursday, May 19, 2016
7:00 PM
COUNCIL CHAMBER, FEW MEMORIAL HALL OF RECORDS
MONTEREY, CALIFORNIA
Commissioners Present: Baldwin, McCarthy, Menendez-Herbst, Spangler
Commissioners Absent: Carnazzo, McEwen, Panetta
Staff Members Present: Community Services Director Kim Bui-Burton, Recreation and
Community Services Manager Cindy Vierra, Sports Center
Manager Jeff Vierra, Park Operations Manager Louie Marcuzzo,
NIP Coordinator Jeff Krebs, Recording Secretary Teresa Nash
CALL TO ORDER
CONSENT ITEMS
Approval of Minutes
1. Thursday, March 17, 2016
Action: Approved as submitted (4-0-3, Carnazzo, McEwen, Panetta absent).
2. Monday, April 11, 2016
Action: Approved as submitted (4-0-3, Carnazzo, McEwen, Panetta absent).
***End of Consent Agenda***
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Sharon Dwight, Monterey resident, said she was talking to a resident at Del Monte Beach
regarding the fire rings; she noted there is a 20-year agreement with State Parks for this area.
David Björk, Monterey Stinging Jellies Disc Golf Club, thanked the City for allowing a disc golf
course at Ryan Ranch. He stated they spent over $3,000 this past year in upkeep plus a lot of
volunteer hours. He said since 2009, they have held many tournament events. The City waived
our fees last year and we were able to put that into the course. This year the City is using the
parking lot for a construction project and it is disrupting our use of the disc golf course. He is
requesting that the City waive their fees again this year due to construction equipment on the
course which could mitigate their profit during tournaments.
PUBLIC APPEARANCE
3. Receive Report and Update on the Parks and Recreation Master Plan (Not a Project
Under CEQA per Article 20, Section 15378 and Under General Rule Article 5, Section
15061)
Action: Report received.
Community Services Director Bui-Burton said that staff hoped to have a draft plan for review
tonight but there is a lot to still put together. She noted the subcommittee will meet tomorrow
and hope to have the Draft PRMP at the June meeting; or a study session may be scheduled.
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Commissioner McCarthy inquired if the draft plan goes online for the public to see. Director Bui-
Burton stated yes, it will as part of the Commission’s agenda packet.
Sharon Dwight, Monterey Resident, said now that the survey is over, she thought decisions
would be made; she inquired when those results will be reviewed. Director Bui-Burton will
follow up with Ms. Dwight.
4. Review Park and Recreation Related Proposed Neighborhood Improvement
Program (NIP) Projects for Fiscal Year 2016-2017 for Conformity and Provide
Direction to Staff to Advise Council (Not a project under CEQA Article 20, Section
15378 and under General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
Action: The Parks and Recreation Commission approved the proposed park and
recreation related NIP projects for Fiscal Year 2016-2017 for conformity to the Parks and
Recreation Master Plan and provided comments to the Council on Project CW-38, Dennis
the Menace Caboose, and Project VDM-2, Ferrante Park Design Study (4-0-3, Carnazzo,
McEwen, Panetta absent).
Community Services Director Bui-Burton stated that as part of the NIP process, the Commission
will review the projects selected by the NIP Committee for conformity to the Parks and
Recreation Master Plan (PRMP) and provide comments to the City Council.
Director Bui-Burton reviewed the projects against the 1986 PRMP and Updates and said that
staff found all proposed projects are in conformance. She also noted two projects that staff
have concerns with: CW-38 – Dennis the Menace Caboose and VDM-2 – Ferrante Park Design
Study. On CW-38, she noted that a previous NIP funded study, done by MIG, Inc., was
completed and that the purpose of that study as approved by Council, was to define the
specifications for the train to remain in Dennis the Menace Park. One concern is that the
proposed relocation of the train engine would bring it too close to the park entry and installing a
40’ caboose behind it would be adding another piece of train equipment in a park; staff cannot
support this because it would not be a piece of certified play equipment. She said staff also has
concerns about putting an enclosed structure in a park. She noted as part of the work we’ve
been doing on the new PRMP, we feel we need to look at Dennis the Menace Park as a whole,
including the Monterey Youth Center, so adding another building at this time is a concern.
Regarding Project VDM-2 - Ferrante Park Design Study; she stated that the City Council just
approved a Villa Del Monte Neighborhood Revitalization Plan and that any specific park plans
would come to the Commission for review and approval. The 1986 PRMP states the City has a
deficiency in ball fields by two. She noted that community input says we need more field space
and the proponents comments seem to indicate removal of the ball field; staff cannot support
this concept.
Commissioner McCarthy noted the staff report says the caboose would not qualify as a piece of
play equipment and would only replicate the existing problems. Director Bui-Burton stated that
although when the train was put in it was allowable; with more recent State Playground
Equipment Standards it does not meet the specifications for a piece of play equipment, it is no
longer usable as play equipment. It would still have to be fenced off if added as another piece
of train equipment.
Commissioner Spangler inquired what the process is if an approved NIP project is modified.
NIP Coordinator Krebs stated the Council can choose to not fund the project or they can add a
greater or lesser scope to the project; then it goes back to the NIP committee for review and
approval, and then back to Council for their review and approval.
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Commissioner McCarthy said the NIP recommended $370,000 for the caboose project and
inquired what happens to that allocation if the project is not approved by Council. NIP
Coordinator Krebs stated that funding would go back into the NIP fund.
Sharon Dwight, NIP Alternate Spokesperson, regarding Project CW-38, the MIG study funded
by NIP was to find a way to make the train accessible again. She said this proposed project
allows the public to have access and be able to go through the caboose so kids can have the
reality of what it was like. We want to be able to get up to the train that is the objective; we want
access, something real that meets the standards. She said regarding Project VDM-2, the
neighborhood revitalization plan has been done and the residents want to be able to use
Ferrante Park for more than one sport; create community use year round in the park. She
stated that NIP is not at all interested in removal of baseball at that park; residents are not
enjoying their neighborhood park as it is now.
Tom Reeves, proponent of project CW-38, noted the Commission has received two memos
from him with his concerns of the agenda report. He said he has no objections to the MIG
study; this proposed project is to add a safe place for children’s imaginations to run wild. He
feels it would be safe and does not understand why there is so much against this project. He
said there is a lot that still needs to go into this project and would be perfectly happy to work
with the Commission and staff. He reiterated that this is supposed to be a safe place and
suggested that surveillance could be monitored in the Monterey Youth Center. He said if
someone comes up with a better idea, he’s open to that.
Carol Pavlo, NIP Alternate Representative for Villa Del Monte Neighborhood, said she is here
as member of the community and here to seek the Commission’s support on the Ferrante Park
project. She said the park is not usable for all neighbors and is below expectations of its
intended use. As you are no doubt aware, it has created conflict with members of the
neighborhood and the Monterey Pony Baseball/Softball League. She feels a professional study
may show that Ferrante Park is underused. The City Council unanimously approved the Villa
Del Monte Revitalization Neighborhood Plan. The Ferrante Park Design Study would seek the
truth, as stated in the conditions report and is deemed viable and worthy by the NIP committee.
Katrina Hintze, Villa Del Monte resident, said this project is very much in line with what the
Parks and Recreation Commission are working on with the Master Plan Update. She said as
far as usage, from 2015 field reservations, the park is open 86% of the time and can only be
used by kids 10 and under. She said baseball/softball practice begins around 4:00 p.m. after
the kids are out of school. There are a lot of people in the neighborhood who live in apartments
and have very little park land; Ferrante Park is about an acre of land with a ball park, a play area
and a dismal picnic area and is not usable for most neighborhood residents. She questioned
what you can do at a baseball field if you as an adult cannot play there; what would you do for
family recreational time. She stated that the Pony League enjoys the use of the field for free;
and have carte blanche use of the building. She said the City has 9 ballparks and inquired how
many dollars are forfeited by the City for the Pony League’s usage; how many fields do we need
in Monterey? She stated that the Villa Del Monte neighborhood has a shortage of available
park space and wants to ask the residents what they want in the park; just because the ball park
has been there for 60 years doesn’t mean it has to stay.
Joe DeRousi, Monterey Pony Baseball Board President, noted that they do not have access to
the Del Rey Oaks ball field and that some of the previous comments made are incorrect. He
said the Pony League put over $100,000 into the parks and fields and have to go through the
same process like everyone else; these ballparks are important to the youth in Monterey. If you
use the argument the parks are not used while school is open, we might as well close all parks.
He thanked the City and staff for all they do.
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Commissioner Baldwin said the draft PRMP suggests specifically to get Dennis the Menace
Park back to the original theme. Director Bui-Burton said the PRMP recommends a refresh of
the park with community input; it goes back to maintaining the creative spirit of the park created
by Hank Ketcham.
Commissioner McCarthy stated that reading the scope of the project for VDM-2, it’s not just
asking what they want there, it’s a design plan; so it’s actually reconfiguring the park; the
language states there will be a design. NIP Coordinator Krebs stated we sent all the projects
out to the neighborhood representatives to make sure this is the correct wording; once it is an
approved project in the budget, that’s what we go with.
Sharon Dwight, NIP Alternate Spokesperson, said the NIP Committee will have to work with the
Commission after the City Council approves the funding; whatever comes out of that, the
Commission will review and approve. Commissioner McCarthy said ultimately it’s going to
come down to do you support a ball field there or do you support what the neighbors want. Ms.
Dwight said the solution does not have to be baseball or no baseball; there is nice grass there;
add another access gate into the field. She stated the NIP Committee is not saying we don’t
want baseball there. Commissioner McCarthy stated his understanding of the proposed project
by the proponent is to remove the ball field.
Commissioner Spangler inquired if the Villa Del Monte Revitalization Plan covers this. Director
Bui-Burton said when she looked at the proposal; she thought it was a plan. She spoke to
Principal Planner Elizabeth Caraker and she stated this is just a vision and what is being talked
about is park improvements. The actual park design would come to Commission; at this point
it’s a concept design, not a plan.
Commissioner Spangler said she’s hearing a consensus that the Commission is not in favor of
removing any ball fields but we are in favor of updating Ferrante Park.
NIP Coordinator Krebs stated these comments are what he needs to move on to Council; to
study the park and see how we can upgrade it; what Council approved is a revitalization plan for
the neighborhood; the Parks and Recreation Commission can add a directive to keep the ball
field.
Commissioner McCarthy stated there’s times when the park has no activity; our job is to make
use of the park; if it comes down to the removal of the ballpark it will not fly in this community. It
needs to go to Council with a recommendation that the ballpark be preserved; with input from
the neighbors about multi-use of Ferrante Park.
Commissioner Spangler said regarding the train, there is an interest in capturing the imagination
of children and adults; the MIG study is about safety but can also mesh with a structure that can
be climbed on and is open; how do we merge these. NIP Coordinator Krebs stated we start at a
concept, then get costs, develop the project and provide information; we put a lot of time in just
to get a consensus on a project. There will be multiple meetings on this project; you really can’t
make an informed decision without doing some work. He noted that projects also need to
include maintenance costs when it goes to Council. Commissioner Spangler stated we really
can’t put something into a park if it’s not insurable. She suggested holding a formal public
workshop to get public comments and ideas.
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Commissioner Baldwin said he likes the idea but feels the timing is wrong for this discussion; we
need to look at the whole park and get back to Hank Ketcham’s original idea for the park. NIP
Coordinator Krebs stated he would not start this project until the PRMP is approved; at this time,
it’s to get funding and public input.
Commissioner McCarthy agreed it needs to be part of the overall review of the park after the
PRMP has been completed; we can approve the concept, but it has to fit in with the park. There
are a lot of questions to be asked; this project is too expensive.
Commissioner Spangler said at this time we are not removing the train; we need to move
forward with something that will work; I see the train as a separate feature of the park.
On a motion by Commissioner Baldwin, the Parks and Recreation Commission recommend the
train at Dennis the Menace Park needs to be part of the new Parks and Recreation Master Plan.
The motion died due to a lack of a second.
On a motion by Commissioner Spangler, seconded by Commissioner McCarthy, and carried by
the following vote, the Parks and Recreation Commission find the Park and Recreation Related
NIP Projects for Fiscal Year 2016-2017 are in conformity with the Park and Recreation Master
Plan and provided comments to the City Council on Projects CW-38 and VDM-2:
AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Baldwin, McCarthy, Menendez-Herbst,
Spangler
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Carnazzo, McEwen, Panetta
5. Recommend to City Council Revision to Skate Park Ordinance (Not a Project Under
CEQA Article 20, Section 15378 and Under General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
Action: The Parks and Recreation Commission approve and recommend revisions to the
Skate Park Ordinance to the City Council (4-0-3, Carnazzo, McEwen, Panetta absent).
Community Services Director Bui-Burton said that staff reviewed the existing ordinance and it
needs to conform to State Law giving public agencies immunity for injuries. This revision will
make helmets, knee pads and elbow pads mandatory and the signage at the park needs to
include fines. The State Law added the inclusion of non-motorized recreational devices
including wheelchairs, scooters, inline skates or roller skates; bicyclists also want to use the
park, but would be incompatible with other uses. She said this ordinance will go to Council in
June, if approved after two readings it will go into effect in 30 days.
Commissioner McCarthy inquired why wheelchairs were included. Director Bui-Burton stated
the Skate Park is now ADA accessible. Commissioner McCarthy asked what happens if there is
no enforcement. Director Bui-Burton said it’s not a supervised park, staff feels that with Parks
staff and Recreation staff around we can help monitor it along with public complaints.
Sharon Dwight, Monterey resident, said there’s no question that safety items need to be added.
She feels it’s a mistake to mix these different modes of transportation. State Law allows us to
expand the definition but must we do it; we need to find a way to set times for specific users.
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Katrina Hintze, Monterey resident, said she has four boys and they love the Skate Park. She
said the City needs to state they need to wear protective gear; some will wear it, some won’t,
putting up signs gives them a warning. She said it’s a great park; there are some folks in
wheelchairs at the park that don’t want a separation of use.
Commissioner Spangler inquired what is done at other skate parks. Recreation and Community
Services Manager Vierra said she met with Terry Siegrist, Recreation and Cultural Services
Manager for the City of Marina to see how they operate their skate park. They changed their
ordinance to comply with State Laws and provided a lot of information on what they have seen;
the biggest concern was to not have motorized devices in the park. He said when someone in a
wheelchair is in the skate park, the other users respect them.
On a motion by Commissioner Menendez-Herbst, seconded by Commissioner McCarthy, and
carried by the following vote, the Parks and Recreation Commission approve and recommend to
City Council revisions to the Skate Park Ordinance:
AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Baldwin, McCarthy, Menendez-Herbst,
Spangler
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Carnazzo, McEwen, Panetta
6. Recommend to City Council Revision to Alcoholic Beverages on Public Beaches
Ordinance (Not a Project Under CEQA Article 20, Section 15378 and Under General
Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
Action: Item tabled.
Community Services Director Bui-Burton stated that staff recommends that the Commission
table this item for further staff coordination and review.
On a motion by Commissioner McCarthy, seconded by Commissioner Baldwin, and carried by
the following vote, the Parks and Recreation Commission approved tabling this item for further
staff coordination and review:
AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Baldwin, McCarthy, Menendez-Herbst,
Spangler
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Carnazzo, McEwen, Panetta
INFORMATIONAL REPORTS & STAFF COMMENTS
7. Art in the Park (Not a Project Under CEQA Article 20, Section 15378 and Under
General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
Action: Report received.
8. Monthly Report - Parks Division - March 2016 (Not a Project Under CEQA Article 20,
Section 15378 and Under General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
Action: Report received.
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9. Monthly Report - Parks Division - April 2016 (Not a Project Under CEQA Article 20,
Section 15378 and Under General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
Action: Report received.
Recreation and Community Services Manager Vierra reported the Skate Jam is this Saturday
and is co-sponsored with On the Beach Surf Shop; they will also hold skateboard clinics during
the summer with professional skaters; Art in the Park is also this Saturday at Hilltop Park
Center; and the upcoming Community Band Concert will be a tribute to Dick Robins, who has
conducted the band for 30 years. She reported tomorrow is the last day of softball league
registration; staff is gearing up for summer programs; a Sock Hop was the theme for the
luncheon at Scholze Park Center; there are two upcoming trips to San Francisco; and preschool
graduation is next week. She also reported that Monterey County Pops! will have their
Memorial Day Concert on Colton Hall lawn on Monday, May 31.
Sports Center Manager Vierra read some guest comments he received saying “how awesome
the Sports Center is and how much they appreciate how clean the facility is;” another comment
received “my husband and I are so impressed, wish we had one like this in Newport Beach.” He
said a lot of projects are coming up including the pool deck, the pool bottom and the HVAC
system.
Park Operations Manager Marcuzzo reported new lights have been installed at Jacks Park; they
are recruiting for a Greenbelt Coordinator position to be filled soon; and the Parks Division is
doing a lot of mowing and spring cleaning.
Community Services Director Bui-Burton reported a HBO series was recently filmed in the
Colton Hall Museum and at the Waterfront; we have completed the Special Events Grants
Program and the City Council approved $99,925 for Fiscal Year 2016-2017 for this program.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner Spangler thanked staff for answering questions and getting through the NIP
process.
Commissioner McCarthy also thanked staff and said visit a park!
NEXT MEETING
Thursday, June 16, 2016
ADJOURNMENT
Vice Chair Spangler adjourned the meeting at 8:46 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted, Approved,
Kim Bui-Burton Lacy Spangler, Vice Chair
Community Services Director Parks and Recreation Commission
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Agenda
Parks and Recreation Commissioners
Commission Ellen McEwen, Chair
Agenda Lacy Spangler, Vice Chair
Regular Meeting Vance Baldwin
Daniel Carnazzo
Thursday, May 19, 2016 Dennis McCarthy
Council Chamber Suzanne Menendez-Herbst
Few Memorial Hall of Records Kathleen Panetta
7:00 PM
Monterey, California
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
CONSENT ITEMS
CONSENT ITEMS allow for a review of those items recommended for approval on consent or
recommended to be continued, tabled or withdrawn, etc. Consent items consist of those items
which are routine and for which a staff recommendation has been prepared. A member of the
public or a Commissioner may request that an item recommended for approval on consent be
heard on the regular agenda for further discussion.
Approval of Minutes
1. Thursday, March 17, 2016
2. Monday, April 11, 2016
***End of Consent Agenda***
PUBLIC COMMENTS
PUBLIC COMMENTS allows you, the public, to speak for a maximum of three minutes on any
subject which is within the jurisdiction of the Monterey Parks and Recreation Commission and
which is not on the agenda. Any person or group desiring to bring an item to the attention of the
Commission may do so during Public Comments or by addressing a letter of explanation to:
Recreation and Community Services Director, 546 Dutra Street, Monterey CA 93940. The
appropriate staff person will contact the sender concerning the details.
PUBLIC APPEARANCE
PUBLIC APPEARANCE items are reports on action or informational issues that might stimulate
public discussion, but that do not require formal noticing as public hearings. You are welcome to
offer your comments after being recognized by the Chair. The Chair may limit the time allocated to
each speaker.
3. Receive Report and Update on the Parks and Recreation Master Plan (Not a Project
Under CEQA per Article 20, Section 15378 and Under General Rule Article 5, Section
15061)
4. Review Park and Recreation Related Proposed Neighborhood Improvement
Program (NIP) Projects for Fiscal Year 2016-2017 for Conformity and Provide
Direction to Staff to Advise Council (Not a project under CEQA Article 20, Section
15378 and under General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
5. Recommend to City Council Revision to Skate Park Ordinance (Not a Project Under
CEQA Article 20, Section 15378 and Under General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
6. Recommend to City Council Revision to Alcoholic Beverages on Public Beaches
Ordinance (Not a Project Under CEQA Article 20, Section 15378 and Under General
Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
INFORMATIONAL REPORTS & STAFF COMMENTS
INFORMATIONAL REPORTS & STAFF COMMENTS supply the Commission with written or oral
information that they may wish to discuss or take action by placing the item on a future agenda.
7. Art in the Park (Not a Project Under CEQA Article 20, Section 15378 and Under General
Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
8. Monthly Report - Parks Division - March 2016 (Not a Project Under CEQA Article 20,
Section 15378 and Under General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
9. Monthly Report - Parks Division - April 2016 (Not a Project Under CEQA Article 20,
Section 15378 and Under General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
COMMISSIONERS may ask a question for clarification, make a brief announcement or make a
brief report on his or her activities. In addition, a Commissioner may provide a referral to staff or
other resources for factual information, request staff to report back to the body at a subsequent
meeting concerning any City matter, or direct staff to place a request to agendize a matter of
business on a future agenda. (G.C. 54954.2)
NEXT MEETING
Thursday, June 16, 2016
ADJOURNMENT
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