ADA Committee
Regular MeetingMontpelier, VT · September 4, 2012
Minutes
MONTPELIER ADA COMMITTEE
Meeting Minutes
DRAFT
The Montpelier Americans with Disabilities (ADA) Committee held its regularly
scheduled meeting on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 at 10:00 A.M. in the City
Manager’s Conference Room.
Committee Members Present:
Kim Brittenham, VCIL, Chair
Tom McArdle, Assistant Director of Public Works
Kevin Casey, Economic & Community Development Specialist
Michael Arnowitt, Guest
INTRODUCTION AND WELCOME
Kim said on the agenda today we are going to review the minutes from July 10th
and noted that we didn’t meet in August. Their big plan is to review the
Transition Plan and help Tom figure out what is next. She wants to talk about the
ADA Event they held in July and she has questions about the raised fine for
illegally parking in accessible parking spaces which passed by City Council. They
are also are going to talk about the auditory signal at intersections.
Michael Arnowitt said he came to further discuss the auditory crossing signals,
particularly the one in front of the gas stations between Memorial Drive and
Route 2 and Main Street and Northfield Street. He has two older complaints and
one newer complaint since the last meeting. The main purpose of an auditory
system is to help people with visual handicaps to get audio clues to help them
cross better and to find where to cross as well. His two older complaints were the
locator tone at the two corners that are on the side opposite from Shaw’s. The
locator tone where the gas station is seems quiet to him. The locator tone does
sometimes rise with the traffic level, which is good, but you have to be close to
hear it.
Mr. McArdle said there are a minimum and a maximum. What he has had
problems with is the minimum volume that is not affected by a background noise
but the maximum setting may not be allowing the setting for the 6 decibels above
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background noise. If the maximum is adjusted upward, it will permit the
automatic background noise adjustment. This is part of the learning curve he is
still getting the hang of. They adjusted the minimum but the maximum negates
the other. He had a complaint from a resident on Northfield Street about the
locator to noise level because he could hear it just up the street at night where he
lives. There is an outstanding complaint at Main and State Street as well – trying
to find the proper balance.
Mr. Arnowitt asked if there was also a setting for the walk. He said when he is
halfway across the street he cannot hear the crossing (navigation) tone until he
gets much closer to the curb on the other side.
Mr. McArdle replied they made an adjustment to the time. They found the
crossing time was too short. During that crossing time there is the crossing
(navigation) tone. It starts with the bird sound and ends with a louder beep which
is now 18 seconds. What they had before was 14 seconds of crossing time. These
pedestrian crossing systems, the speakers are in the front of the box and they had
a lot of vandalism issues so the manufacturer put the speaker in the back of the
box. A new deflector was recently installed to address this problem.
Mr. Arnowitt said a third thing he discovered in July was that the entire light pole
audio system stops at 11:00 P.M. until 6:00 A.M. He wanted to see if he could get
across the street by himself after 11:00 and had problems. There was hardly any
traffic going from Main Street up Northfield Street. The locator tone is not on and
he can’t see the hand. The only thing that is on is the blinking traffic lights. He
started to cross and got to halfway the street and figures he is either in the gas
station parking lot or on Northfield Street.
Mr. McArdle pointed out that all of the intersections go to a night flash because
it’s a slow traffic period. None of the pedestrian features work at night.
Ms. Brittenham said it in effect becomes a curfew for people who rely on it. They
checked on the standards which are the minimal for what municipalities have to
do.
Mr. McArdle said the option available to them is to change the time period that it
switches to flash which could go to midnight. He needs to speak with the Police
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Chief to see if there is enough traffic for this to make sense. With low traffic
times, the flashing amber / red lights provide warning to motorists. Pedestrians
have the right-of-way.
Ms. Brittenham said she had two questions related to making these changes. She
thinks there needs to be some guidance from the city in a larger way about it
evolves. She would want to hear from the Vermont Association for the Blind and
Visually Impaired about how many other people are using it, or is it just Michael.
She is worried about Tom making changes based on what Michael says or what a
business owner or resident says. There needs to be some larger form of guidance
about this.
MINUTES
Mr. Casey said according to the Open Meeting Law they can’t review without a
quorum. Mr. McArdle replied he could post a draft so the public will know what
they were talking about and committee members could review.
TRANSITION PLAN
Mr. Casey said he reviewed the plan. Mr. McArdle hoped they could talk about
enacting the plan. What he will work on is the public right-of-way part of the
plan. That is the accessible pedestrian systems, etc. What needs to be done and
when it (accessibility improvements) is often tied together with paving streets,
reconstruction, etc. He said on a recent trip they stopped at the Killington
Welcome Center in Mendon and found there is no accessible parking or
bathrooms. This was one of several examples of where he has encountered
problems and was relaying awareness achieved through family members. His
hope is that they could, as a committee effort, decide on how to conduct the
various evaluations needed be forming teams to review the programs and
policies, etc. Bill Fraser should review the plan next and we should receive his
comments but we should plan to meet with him to explain next steps and obtain
his support.
FINES IN ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPACES
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City Council raised it to $100. Statewide it is $200. Why did Montpelier only say
$100? She reviewed the Council minutes and there is no information except it
was presented and passed.
SET NEXT MEETING DATE
The next meeting date is set for October 9th at 10:00 A.M. (editor’s post meeting
note: rescheduled to October 16th)
Meeting adjourned.
Transcribed by: Joan Clack
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