Energy Advisory Committee
Regular MeetingMontpelier, VT · September 16, 2014
Minutes
MEAC meeting minutes
Memorial Room
September 16, 2014
Attending: Time Shea, Becky Wigg, Geoff Fitzgerald, Barry McPhee
Allison Hollingsworth, Dan Costin, Kiel Corey, Andrew Stein, Joey Miller, Ken Jones,
Barbara Conrey
Also attending: Mike Miller, Andi Colnes, Hannah Reckhow, Cara Robechek, Paul
Markowitz, Amy Nixon, Bill Chidsey
Meeting began at 7:08
Motion to approve August minutes – seconded – passes unanimously
Mike gave an update on Solar RFP process. All applications have been received,
subcommittee can start meeting. Becky will take lead on getting subcommittee meeting
together.
Outreach and Community Engagement
Paul passed around a proposed schedule of workshops for VEIC Li Ling public
education outreach event.
Feedback:
Barry – are the presenters going to know that these are part of this fifteen year initiative,
or is it just a one-time workshop for them?
Paul – This will be advertised as part of net zero initiative…
Tim – this is all about awareness of NZM
Andi – This is great! But it will also seem aspiration. In Rutland an old home was made
net zero. They’ve committed to doing 100 of them in Rutland. I would love to propose at
least 1 in Montpelier. Real picture. Real action. Real affordable action. All done through
affordable home loans. I”ll follow up on this.
Geoff – This is great. Should number seven be the first to get people excited?
Andrew – it’s an experience leading up to number seven.
Paul – educate, then how would you like to participate? You’ve heard this, now let’s
start thinking bigger.
Dan – have we decided on electric vehicles or transportation piece?
Paul - No, but we decided to start somewhere
Moving forward: Tim is willing to find a location and set some dates
Kiel gave an update on the documentary event. He will check in with library, perhaps 6
pm Hayes Room and will schedule around lecture series, co-populate the two events.
He can schedule one of those in coming months.
Andi – too close to dinner, make it around dessert!
Kiel also gave an update on website process. He can get calendar onto wordpress site,
but as far as nicer site, will not have time to work on it. Welcomes ideas for others who
have capacity.
Tim will take lead on pulling together outreach group and developing similar branding
between events.
Tim talked to Jessie Baker and Mike Miller about how to handle stakeholders’
involvement with committee. They went back to City Council about stakeholders being
advisors. Letters have gone out to Andi, Paul, Robert Dostis, and representatives from
Buildings and General Services to participate starting next month to leverage their
knowledge and resources.
Reporting policy proposal
Becky – we did some homework and found that city does not have authority to create
policy around reporting and benchmarking energy usage. This requires charter change.
Joey – a voluntary option is being developed at state level
Paul – we’ve been working on voluntary disclosure.
Bill - Link to City’s town assessors records, we have codes for abbreviations. That could
be decoded and we could find out square footages. That is public information. Happy to
share with anyone who’s interested.
Ken – anyway to get homeowners to voluntarily give this information?
Andi – energy dashboard has database that’s based on estimates and averages. Not
precise but generally accurate…
Barbara – when houses are weatherized, doesn’t the ‘after’ need to be reported?
Maybe for subsidized projects.
Strategic Plan
Barbara gave an update on the strategic plan. Essential changes were around kickoff
activities. There was a concern that we were setting specific reduction metrics that
could potentially get up in trouble because we don’t have data to back it up. Instead,
use them as targets not absolutes.
Added a few initiatives to scope – work with state of Vermont, benchmark consumption
data, changing of language from zoning to organizational changes in city government.
Added some organizations affected.
Would like to have committee accept charter to move on to CC.
Geoff – if we’re going to present this, we have to be able to say why we’re using these
numbers.
Barbara – I think we said ‘where do we want to be?’ and moved backwards from there.
Barry – a lot of things right now are open to change
Used EAN document as reference, have 20 years less time to compete but smaller
focus…
Ken – I like the use of the word ‘target.’ Is it the absolute correct number? We don’t
know but we’ll adjust. We need to track progress and follow up to fully learn about
baseline.
Alison – there will be several methodologies layered on top of each other – we won’t get
full information for electric, gas, propane. Combine top down estimates, bottom up
estimates.
Paul – why do we need this document approved by CC? Why now?
Barbara – we need to start now!
Paul – why not just update not approve?
Joey – this is great for us as an internal document. I would hesitate to put in front of city
council.
Andi- with so many precise numbers, the council would be hard pressed to pass it as a
charter.
Dan – this document is very similar to e Montpelier town plan. If we’re writing this plan
document, it can be used in future plans too
Barry – I’m going back and forth…generally this 15 year initiative is outsized compared
with what we’ve done and it may need additional formality. Would give us a more
defined relationship with CC.
Barbara- why don’t we ask Anne to take to CC as information?
Bill -People involved will change, best to strike iron while it’s hot
Tim – we could use other language this is our first plan
Geoff – ‘roadmap’
The Committee decided to give to Anne with other information to present to CC as
roadmap and ideas that MEAC is working on. Or Tim will present to CC.
Dan – could we add something about walkability, density, connectedness?
Barbara – Density refers to infill not new development, but yes it’s an important piece to
stress
Next steps:
Committee struck #4 and last part of #3 (not going to CC for approval)
Barry volunteered to take charge of developing details of strategic planning
Georgetown University Energy Prize
Alison gave an update on GUEP process. Are we going to apply for second phase? Is
Montpelier a good candidate based on how competition is being scored? We would only
be judged on municipal and residential electric bills. Penalized for heat pump fuel switch.
Not judging fossil fuel impact. Jamie Irvin pointed out that the way that net metering is
installed will reduce utility bill, it’s behind meter. Would far outweigh any conversion to
heat pump or EV increases. Separate from thinking we will win, this is a way to get
organized over next two years. Don’t think we will win, but it will motivate the community,
we can use their resources, focus on implementation. Whatever we submit, would have
to be approved by CC. (can do strategic charter too!) it’s a jumpstart.
Ken – is the state a part of the city for this?
No, municipal and residential, no commercial
Thoughts:
Benefits… shot in arm, prestigious, would help us get other funding
Andi – if we had a chance, yes. It would work, but since we know we’re not a match it
may not do that.
Joey – Would hate to build into the narrative of people only thinking about energy in
terms of electric consumption. Other VT energy committees also made it to quarter
finals, do we want to compete?
Tim – is there anyone who can dedicate time to this work?
Ken – how much of municipality is school? Then schools will have to participate
Decision: yes, MEAC will peruse if there’s someone who’s got time. Allison will solicit
help. Will send around tasks.
VEEP update from Cara Robechek
Whole School Energy Challenge - Specific schools make a commitment to reduce
energy use by 10% over the course of the year. This is done through education on
usage and work with facilities managers. 17 schools in program this year!
All of Montpelier’s schools are involved making it the only supervisory union in the state
to make that commitment.
Main Street Middle has Green Team with 1, 10, 100 thousand proposals to reduce
energy. They come up with activities, and we could identify partners for them.
Joey – VECAN conference is 12/6! Workshops on net zero, MEAC will be represented
by Tim. There are also requests for rewards for energy committees.
Button Up Day of Action 11/1, we’re partnering with Capstone Community Action and
others. There’s a video contest to tell story of benefits of energy efficiency in 2 minutes.
VEC/VTC 11/13 Creating a Carbon Conscious Community
Meeting adjourned at 8:48
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