City Council
Regular MeetingMontreat, NC · April 6, 2017
Minutes
Town of Montreat
Board of Commissioners
Town Council Public Forum
April 6, 2017
Walkup Building
Board members present: Mayor Tim Helms
Mayor Pro Tem Kitty Fouche
Commissioner Bill Gilliland
Commissioner Kent Otto
Commissioner Mary Standaert
Commissioner Ann Vinson (arrived at 6:42 p.m.)
Board members absent: None
Town staff present: Alex Carmichael, Town Administrator
Angie Murphy, Town Clerk
Call to Order
Approximately 30 people were in attendance. Mayor Helms called the meeting to order at 6:29
p.m. and led the group in a moment of silence.
Agenda Approval
Commissioner Gilliland moved to adopt the agenda as presented. Commissioner Standaert
seconded and the agenda was approved 4/0.
Public Forum
Mr. John Jordan of 346 Texas Road stated that the steep slope ordinance went into effect on June
11, 2009 and he received his building permit for a driveway on June 4, 2009 so he thought he met
all qualifications outlined in the ordinance. Later it was determined that the ordinance starts on
the day the building inspector inspects your permit not on the day you receive your permit. The
driveway in question is on Lot #477 on Texas Spur which has a slope of 40% and is covered by the
steep slope ordinance. Mr. Jordan stated that Buncombe County started the steep slope
ordinance and it is an acre or above that qualifies you to follow the steep slope ordinance and you
must recertify with the State every 3 years. In Montreat you have to certify every year that your
system is working properly. Also in Montreat your deed must indicate that you are under the
steep slope ordinance which is less than acre. Mr. Ron Sneed, the attorney of Mr. John Jordan,
advised Mr. Jordan that he was confusing the steep slow ordinance with the stormwater
management system. When Mr. Johnson brought his annual report to the Building Inspector for
review he was told that he needed a licensed engineer to inspect the system annually and write a
report (the Stormwater BMP Annual Maintenance Report). Mr. Johnson called Buncombe County
and got a list of Environmental Engineers and he chose one from Black Mountain. This report cost
Mr. Jordan $1,483. Mr. Jordan stated that he had to do this report every year forever. Mr. Jordan
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gave a visual demonstration of how a stormwater maintenance system works. Mr. Jordan would
rather give his money to Montreat College and the MRA than to an engineer each year.
Commissioner Gilliland asked if Mr. Jordan had to get an inspection because he had the
stormwater maintenance system or because he built the driveway on a steep slope. Mr. Ron
Sneed stated that were 8 or 9 recognized stormwater maintenance systems and the idea of any of
these devices is to catch the first inch of fallen rain and treat it before it goes off down the hill into
the streams. Because of the limitations of his property he had to install the specific type of
stormwater maintenance system. Mr. Sneed stated that the inspection costs might vary
depending on the type of stormwater maintenance system chosen. Mayor Pro Tem Fouche
stated that she was trying to sort out what Montreat required versus what the State and Federal
requirements were. She wanted to know exactly what Montreat had control over. Mr. Sneed
advised that Towns had to adopt a stormwater management system to comply with federal
regulations. What is different about Montreat, but is not uncommon, is how much ground you
disturb decides if you need to put in a stormwater management system and in Montreat that
amount is less than an acre of disturbance whereas Buncombe County is an acre or more.
Commissioner Standaert pointed out there were very few lots in Montreat over an acre. Mayor
Helms advised Mr. Jordan that the Board could not answer his questions this evening that Staff
needed time to look into the situation. Mr. Carmichael stated that Staff would be happy to review
the Stormwater Ordinance and do a comparison of neighboring municipalities and report back on
the limitations brought about by State and Federal requirements. Mr. Jordan also felt that Texas
Spur Road needed to be looked at with regards to road quality.
Mr. Ted Carey of 116 John Knox Road wanted an update on the purchase of the lot for the
proposed Town Hall facility. Mr. Carey also wanted to know if any architects had been contacted
and the status of the Texas Road Bridge. Mayor Helms stated that the Board was in negotiations
with MRA with regards to the Creek Side property. Negotiations involve a 30 day period with two
more renewable 30 day periods to vet the lot: soil testing, engineering reports, etc before a
decision has to be made. Mayor Helms stated that the letter had been sent to the federal
government about converting the Texas Road Bridge to a pedestrian-only bridge and we are
waiting on a reply. As for contacting architects, Mayor Helms stated that was premature at this
point.
Adjournment
There being no further discussion, Commissioner Vinson moved to adjourn the Public Forum
Meeting. Commissioner Gilliland seconded and the motion carried 5/0. The meeting was
adjourned at 7:02 p.m.
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Tim Helms, Mayor Angie Murphy, Town Clerk
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Agenda
Town of Montreat
Board of Commissioners
Town Council Meeting
April 6, 2017 – 7:00 p.m.
Walkup Building
I. Call to Order
• Pledge of Allegiance
• Moment of Silence
II. Agenda Adoption
III. Mayor’s Communications
IV. Consent Agenda
A. Meeting Minutes Adoption
• March 2, 2016, Public Forum Meeting Minutes
• March 2, 2016, Town Council Agenda Meeting Minutes
• March 9, 2016, Town Council Meeting Minutes
• March 17, 2016, Special Meeting Minutes
B. Resolution #17-04-003 Honoring Police Chief Jack M. Staggs upon his Retirement
C. Resolution #17-04-001 Awarding to Retiring Police Chief Jack Staggs his Badge and
Service Sidearm
D. Resolution #17-04-002 Designating April 29, 2017 as Arbor Day in the Town of
Montreat
E. Resolution #17-04-004 Declaring Certain Items Surplus and Authorizing Disposal By
Private Negotiation and Sale
All items on the Consent Agenda are considered routine, to be enacted by one motion with the
adoption of the agenda and without discussion. If a member of the governing body requests
discussion of an item, it will be removed from the Consent Agenda and considered separately.
V. Town Administrator’s Communications
• Consent Agenda Review
• Other Topics
• Update on League of Municipalities Town Hall Day
VI. Administrative Reports
• Police Chief
• Public Works Director
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• Finance Officer
• Building Inspector/Code Administrator
VII. Public Comment – Agenda Items
Public comments will be heard during this period for only those items listed on the meeting
agenda.
VIII. Old Business
IX. New Business
A. Discuss formation of a Bridge Beautification Committee
B. Mecklenburg/Louisiana Paving Project
• Suggested Motion: To award the Mecklenburg Circle/Louisiana Road Paving
Project to C & T Paving in the amount $185,867.00 and to authorize the Mayor
and Town Administrator to execute the necessary related contract documents
C. Discussion with Possible Action of Rezoning of Florida Terrace Property to Residential
Use Only
I. Public Comment – Other Topics
Public comments will be heard during this period for other public business items or topics not
listed on the meeting agenda.
II. Commissioner Communications
III. Meeting Dates
Board of Commissioners Annual Board Retreat: April 7, 2017, 9:00 a.m. – 3:00 p.m.
Ridgecrest Conference Center
Ridgecrest, NC
Montreat Tree Board: April 25, 2017, 9:30 a.m.
Town Services Building
Native Plant Sale: April 29, 2017, 9:00 a.m. – 2:00 p.m.
Moore Center Field
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Montreat Landcare: May 3, 2017, 9:00 a.m.
Allen Building
Swannanoa Room
May Town Council Agenda Meeting: May 4, 2017, 7:00 p.m.
Walkup Building
Public Forum starts at 6:30 p.m.
May Town Council Meeting: May 11, 2017, 7:00 p.m.
Walkup Building
IV. Closed Session
• Suggested Motion: To enter into Closed Session in accordance with NCGS
§143-318.11(5) to instruct the Town’s staff concerning the position to be
taken on behalf of the Town in negotiating the price and other material
terms of a contract for acquisition of an interest in real property.
V. Adjournment
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