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Regular MeetingMount Pleasant, SC · May 1, 2020
Minutes
Emergency Video Conference Meeting
Mount Pleasant Town Council
Friday, May 1, 2020 at 1:00 p.m.
Public Access Live Stream Link:
https://youtu.be/oFwSQa6f8QA
MINUTES
I. Call to Order
Mayor Haynie called the meeting to order at 1:05 p.m.
II. Roll Call
Mayor Will Haynie and Council members, Brenda Corley, Laura
Hyatt, Kathy Landing, Tom O’Rourke, Jake Rambo, Gary Santos, and
Guang Ming Whitley were present.
Council member Howard Chapman was serving the National Guard
on active duty and was not present.
III. Public Comment
Public comments may be viewed here.
IV. Adoption: A Resolution urging the Town of Sullivan’s Island
and the City of Isle of Palms to allow Town of Mount Pleasant
Citizens and Citizens of the State of South Carolina access to
public beaches and waters. (R.20051)
Ms. Corley moved to approve; seconded by Mr. Rambo.
Mr. Santos stated that he would like to propose an amendment to the
motion. He spoke with the Mayor of Isle of Palms and various Council
members. He was not able to speak to all of them prior to the
meeting; however, the Mayor of Isle of Palms was in agreement. He
said in the “Therefore” section of Resolution 20051, where it currently
reads: “Therefore; the Town of Mount Pleasant urges the Town of
Sullivan’s Island and the City of Isle of Palms to allow access to
public beaches and water”, to insert “via biking, running and walking”.
Mr. Santos stated that the Mayor of Isle of Palms has agreed to bring
this before his Council members, to allow Mount Pleasant residents
to have access to the Isle of Palms beaches at all times via biking,
walking, and running. He stated that if this can be added to the
Resolution it would be beneficial for the residents of the Town and
show that we are willing to work together.
Mr. Santos made a motion for this to be an amendment to the
Resolution; seconded by Mr. O’Rourke.
Ms. Corley stated that her concern since the beginning has been the
barricades and check points which feel similar to major violations.
Since the Governor is speaking at 4:00 pm today, hopefully there will
be some news that will move this in a forward direction to open up the
beaches. She said going to be beach is one of the healthier things to
be doing during this time.
Mr. Rambo stated that his concern with the amendment is that there
will still be barricades for vehicles and the residents of the Town will
still not be able to drive to the beach. He said he would be agreeable
with the amendment if it encouraged biking, walking, and running;
however, it appears that the Town is still agreeable to continue the
barricading of vehicles.
Mr. Santos stated that the Governor has allowed each municipality to
make their own decisions. He said he does not know what the City of
Isle of Palms Council’s intentions are regarding opening up the beach
access. He said this simply provides immediate access to the Isle of
Palms and perhaps in a week, it can be revisited.
Mr. O’Rourke asked if the Town has the authority to block the base of
the Ravenel bridge and the 526 bridge and prohibit people from
coming into the Town of Mount Pleasant.
Mayor Haynie stated that under curfew conditions, he believes it is
allowable, such as a hurricane. He said he would defer to Legal
Counsel.
Mr. Pagliarini stated that this is a fact specific circumstance. He
stated that there are many facts to take into consideration, such as
location, whether it is a pass through area or a destination. He said
he imagines there are situations where this could occur.
Mr. O’Rourke stated that he is aware there are people from the Isle of
Palms who are exercising and riding their bikes into the Town of
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Mount Pleasant. He has always thought that each municipality has
their own unique situation to deal with and does not appreciate the
Town being told what to do. He said as the Islands make their
decisions, they will know where the Town stands. He said a
tremendous number of emails were received on this particular subject
of beach access. He said the overwhelming number of public
comments received were residents from Mount Pleasant in favor of
moving forward with this resolution. He said the Isle of Palms has
intelligent officials and Mayor Carroll is a good man. We simply want
them to know how the Town feels as they go about making decisions.
Ms. Landing stated this is all being done by Council on behalf of the
Town’s citizens as their representatives. She said everything that was
done since the beginning was in an effort to protect the citizens from
this virus. She said the data has shown that Sullivan’s Island, Isle of
Palms and Mount Pleasant have very low occurrence. She said the
data is indicating that it is time for everyone to get out to the parks,
beaches and accessing the islands. This is simply letting the officials
at the Isle of Palms and Sullivan’s Island know how the Town feels.
Mr. Santos stated that he drove around Town and it appears that
everyone is doing the right thing. He would like to make it clear that
Mayor Carroll is only one of nine votes on the Isle of Palms and he
has agreed to bring this to their Council. He said if the Isle of Palms
Council agrees to this first step, then perhaps the Town will be able to
work with them.
Ms. Corley stated that she still feels strongly that the barricades need
to come down.
Mr. Santos stated that by the Islands keeping the cars out, it will limit
the amount of people, especially coming from other municipalities. It
will not overburden their police department.
Mr. Rambo stated this Resolution is addressing both Sullivan’s Island
and Isle of Palms. He stated that he has a very young family and
walking across the Isle of Palms bridge is not safe and vehicular
access would be much safer. He is not in favor of the amendment as
it appears that the Town is agreeable with the Isle of Palms only
allowing bikers, walkers and runners and continue their authoritarian
barricades and checkpoints.
Mayor Haynie stated that both Mayors of the islands have reached
out to him and their Councils are willing to discuss this issue. He
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stated that the Governor issued them an executive order and they
have explicit permission to control their beach access. He said if the
barricades came down today, they are still able to control beach
access. He would like for people to be able to use the beach and his
issue with this amendment is that this Council is telling the other
taxpayers of South Carolina that we are okay with a measure that
allows Mount Pleasant people to use the beach, but they are not able
to. He is in favor of the initial wording that all citizens have reasonable
access to the beaches with social distancing and reasonable
restrictions. He said there are reasonable restrictions on the use of
the Town facilities as well. He said if this amendment is proposed,
they will only give running, cycling, and walking access.
Mr. Santos stated that the island will not remove their barricades until
they feel comfortable. He said that cycling, walking, and running at
least provides for some access. He said if we do not vote on this,
then we are back where we started with no access. He said he is
attempting to find a small compromise. He is not even sure the
islands will allow for any of the proposals. The Resolution is a good
one and sends a strong message and he does not believe the
amendment hampers it in any way.
Ms. Landing said the way the resolution is currently written now is
acceptable and suggested providing mutual aid from Town. She said
we are getting to a place where the data indicates that it is time to
begin opening things up.
Ms. Whitley said she also agrees that the Resolution, as written, is
broad and provides a general request. She said it is non-binding as
the Town has no jurisdiction over Sullivan’s Island or Isle of Palms.
They do not have to listen to Town Council. She said the more
specific the resolution gets, the more the Town is telling the islands
what to do. She believes in a broad general resolution and the
dialogue between the Mayors and Council, to work not just on the
exercise component, but the eventual opening of the beaches. She
said it should not be the position of Town Council to write the
specifics, but the position of Councils on Isle of Palms and Sullivan’s
Island. She believes the broader resolution is best.
Ms. Hyatt stated that the Resolution as originally written is an
opportunity to express the feelings of the Town of Mount Pleasant
and a way to begin the conversation with Isle of Palms and Sullivan’s
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Island. She hopes that the Islands and the Town are able to come
together and work towards a compromise.
Mr. Santos stated that he would like to adjust his amendment.
Mr. Santos moved to add, “including, but not limited to biking,
running and walking”, in order to open it up to everything, including
vehicles; Mr. O’Rourke amended his second.
Mr. Pagliarini stated that in Mr. Santos’ original amendment to the
motion, he also heard “at all times”, and asked if Mr. Santos wished
to include these words.
Mr. Santos stated that this statement was not included in his motion.
Ms. Landing stated that in Mayor Carroll’s new letter, if it is before
8:00 a.m. or after 5:00 p.m., the public is already allowed full access.
She said if it is not specified for all times of the day, then Council is
already going along with what Mayor Carroll already states.
Mayor Haynie asked Council not to be too specific.
All present voted in favor of the amendment.
Mr. Rambo stated that the Isle of Palms Mayor, Jimmy Carroll, took
time to write to Town Council. He reviewed with Council some of the
points in Mayor Carroll’s letter. He stated that upon his own review of
County records, the Isle of Palms and Sullivan’s Island have been
provided $2.4 million over the past five years of the Town’s County
Tax money to help support the beaches. He said the letter also says
to listen to health experts who have repeatedly stated that outdoor
exercise and sunshine are important factors in staying healthy
physically and mentally. He said experts have also said that the
COVID-19 is not going away anytime soon. He asked how long the
islands will continue to keep these unconstitutional measures in
place. Will it be until there are zero cases or perhaps a vaccine. He
said if the beaches are unsafe, why are the residents being allowed
to access them. The Town’s residents are fed up with it and he does
not believe Town residents will stand idly by while the islands use
Town tax dollars to create their own private beach.
All present voted in favor of the Resolution as amended.
V. Adjourn
There being no further business, Council adjourned at 1:41 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Barbara Ashe
May 1, 2020
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Agenda
Emergency Video Conference Meeting
Mount Pleasant Town Council
Friday, May 1, 2020 at 1:00 p.m.
Public Access Live Stream Link:
https://youtu.be/oFwSQa6f8QA
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Public Comment
Please use one of the following methods to provide comments for
the Town Council meeting. Comments must be received by 11:00
a.m., Friday, May 1, 2020.
A. E-mail comments to councilclk@tompsc.com
B. Leave a voice message at 843-856-7846
IV. Adoption: A Resolution urging the Town of Sullivan’s Island
and the City of Isle of Palms to allow Town of Mount Pleasant
Citizens and Citizens of the State of South Carolina access to
public beaches and waters. (R.20051)
V. Adjourn
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