Economic Development Committee
Regular MeetingMount Pleasant, SC · June 29, 2017
Minutes
TOWN OF MOUNT PLEASANT, SOUTH CAROLINA
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
Thursday, June 29, 2017
(July Committee Meeting)
Municipal Complex, Building A, Public Meeting Room 1
100 Ann Edwards Lane
Mount Pleasant, SC 29464
Minutes
Members Present: Mark Smith, Chairman, Will Haynie and John Burn
Staff Present: Eric DeMoura, Town Administrator; Amy Livingston,
Business and Tourism Manager
Mr. Smith called the meeting to order at 10:57 a.m.
1. Approval of Minutes from the May 1, 2017 meeting
Mr. Haynie moved for approval; seconded by Mr. Burn. All present voted
in favor.
2. Public Comments
3. Tourism Hospitality Transportation Survey Results
Ms. Livingston stated that the Town partnered with CARTA and the
Charleston Visitors Bureau (CVB) to push out a survey of East Cooper
Hospitality workers. She said that the College of Charleston compiled the
data and put together the presentation. She stated that in the first chart,
of the 100 people surveyed, 70% of them were line workers and where
they were coming from to work in Mount Pleasant. She stated that
approximately 38% came from North Charleston/Hanahan area, 32%
came from East of the Cooper, 20% came from West Ashley, etc. She
stated that these are primarily hotel workers.
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She stated that what she thought was interesting is that 30% of these
individuals have shift changes and 44% of those had weekly shift changes.
She stated that as we look at public transportation, this is something that
needs to be looked at.
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She stated that on average, the amount of time they are spending in
Mount Pleasant, there are many variations between the minimum of 24
hours a week and 168 hours per week, which surprised her, with the
mean at 72 hours.
She stated in the next illustration, it was not surprising that 65% drive by
themselves. She stated that what was interesting is that approximately
11% took CARTA and 1% walk. She stated that they keep hearing these
conversations about Uber and Lyft, and they are only seeing
approximately 1%. She stated that when it switches to the late night shift
(which is considered working after midnight) there is a change, because
CARTA does not run that late, so they would expect to see that change.
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This is when you begin to see more of the taxi and Uber type of activity.
She stated that there is also the 3% who ride their bicycle.
She stated that commute time is also an important element as to why it is
difficult to get individuals to work in the Town. She stated that she
expected it to have longer commute times; however, surprisingly, 26%
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found it took 16 to 30 minutes and 37% indicated it took 31 minutes to
an hour to commute to the Town.
Ms. Livingston stated that parking is not an issue because the Town does
not have paid parking. She stated that when asked about an express
shuttle option near their home to the Town of Mount Pleasant, 63%
indicated that they would utilize this option.
She stated that most would be willing to pay $3.00 to $4.10 for this
service, if the option were available.
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She stated that survey participants indicated direct/non-stop routes as
well as cheaper fares were the top factors to encourage them to use
public transportation. She stated that the next step would be to look
more closely at the 70% of line staff that would likely utilize public
transportation. She stated that this will be very helpful as they continue
the conversation on public transportation for employees in Mount
Pleasant. She stated that she wanted to provide a brief overview and will
provide a full report.
Mr. Smith asked Mayor Page about a CARTA update and what the
expectations are.
Mayor Page stated that there are two large issues at this time for CARTA
and that unfortunately she is discouraged that they are the same issues
facing the Town of Mount Pleasant, which are state and federal
regulatory issues. She stated that there is $250 million dollars coming
from the referendum, and overall, there is $600 million coming from the
federal government. One issue is that the Town’s representative, Mark
Sanford, has put in a bill that will destroy all federal transit funding over
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time. She stated that the COG executive board and the CARTA board have
all reached out to him asking him to reconsider that position. She stated
that there is some challenge, because without federal match dollars,
there is to BRT (Bus Rapid Transit). She stated that the second issue is
once again regulatory. She stated that she and her colleagues are
continuing to work at the executive level at the COG and CARTA to
attempt to increase some effectiveness and efficiency when working
through the environmental government regulations we face. She stated
that funding has started to flow and the funding for BRT started being
collected in May. She stated that the County will begin to see this in
November. She stated that there are five additional employees that will
begin working with Charleston County to manage this funding, and
CARTA will begin seeing this funding as well. She stated that they do not
expect to put a shovel in the ground for BRT on Rivers Avenue until 2025;
2023 at best. She stated that this is a challenge, and it is not acceptable.
She stated that she would encourage each and every one of our elected
officials to have conversations with SCDOT (South Carolina Department
of Transportation), and all the State and Federal representatives about
the processes we must go through. She stated that she is pleased that we
took part in this initiative; however, it was initiated for downtown
Charleston and does not affect the Town of Mount Pleasant as much with
hospitality workers. She said that a hospitality worker downtown,
depending on a $10 to $15 an hour wage, is paying as much in parking as
they are in wages. She stated that parking was a large portion of this
initiative. She stated that East Cooper Medical Center has a number of
workers that ride CARTA; however, their stop is at the Arby’s. She
mentioned that she reached out to CARTA and asked if they could extend
the stop to East Cooper Medical Center. She stated that they could not
extend the stop because it increases the route time, and the route times
were already too long. She stated that what they are able to accomplish
through this process is to look at all the employees coming to the Town
and needing to be picked up and what shifts they are working. She asked
if there could be special worker busses, not route busses that would go to
these locations at the shift times; they would not run all day. She stated
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that this may be a way to assist CARTA to help address some of the
Town’s congestion issues and employment issues.
Mr. Smith asked if there is anything further that the Town is able to
proactively do for the larger in-Town employers to further maximize this
opportunity.
Mr. DeMoura stated that he sees public transit as the only way to
accomplish this. He stated that it is imperative to continue the Town’s
work through CARTA, as anything else requires such a manipulation of
the market and public expense.
Mr. Smith asked if it would be in the Town’s best interest from a
collaborative body’s perspective, to have the Committee make a
recommendation to full Council to sign a petition, resolution, or an
actionable item to take an active leadership role in cumbersome federal
regulations through our federal elected officials. He stated that if we do
not say anything, then the Town is not taking any action.
Mr. Haynie asked if there is a way to find out through CARTA what the
regulations are that are impeding progress, everything from Highway 41.
He stated that when we have discussions with the State and Federal
representative, they listen because they understand that these are their
constituents, too. He stated that if there are some key items and staff’s
assistance showing the high ranking priorities.
Mayor Page stated that she has been tirelessly working with the SCDOT
as well as all the Charleston County representatives, particularly as they
are in the hiring process. She stated when having discussions with
SCDOT’s director, who is doing a great job, she advised him that it is very
difficult to be an elected official in a County that took it upon themselves
to raise the half cent sales tax to have our own citizens pay more and still
sit in front of a road that is failing and tell those constituents that
although the County took their money, the road improvement will not
even begin for another five years. She stated that the bigger challenge is
now that the gas tax has been raised, orange cones are going to be going
up all over the State. She stated that as this happens, there will be more
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competition, fewer contractors and higher prices. She stated that all of
the Town’s projects will become more unreachable. She suggested that
prior to drafting a letter, she will work with Mr. DeMoura and Mr.
Morrison and bring the issues before this Committee. She stated that it is
federal and state issues.
Mr. Smith stated that his intent behind the request of the Committee for
Council’s consideration is to put in writing that there is a unanimous front
behind the Mayor. He asked if this could be put in writing for all of
Council’s consideration.
Mayor Page stated that instead of waiting another month for Committee
meetings, she will work with Mr. DeMoura and Mr. Morrison and send
out a list of concerns and have Council add to this list and then put
together a letter.
Mr. Haynie moved that the Economic Development Committee,
Transportation Committee, Mayor’s office and staff work together to
formulate a resolution to be adopted by all Council members that will be
signed and send to State and Federal representatives, identifying what is
slowing the Town’s progress in transportation infrastructure; seconded by
Mr. Burn.
Mr. DeMoura stated that he would like to add another item. He stated
that in his view he believes it is critical that in conversations with elected
officials at other levels, he feels that this is all about risk. He stated that
the reason the Town is under the regulatory state we have is because
something goes wrong and then there is an over correction. He stated
that if there is a new policy or regulation, it is typically created as an over-
reaction in order to lower risks so no one is sued. This type of reaction
results in more policies and regulations. He stated that there needs to be
some comfort with the risk. He stated that in our Town and procurement,
Council provides more latitude in purchasing levels for speed; it is more
risky, but provides speed. He stated that at some point when something
does happen, we just cannot over-correct to fix the issue.
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Mr. Smith stated that these are excellent points to consider which is why
he would like to ensure that it is a collaborative, positive letter, not a
“shame on you” letter, identifying the issue. He suggested putting in
writing where we currently are and how to collaboratively resolve this
issue. He stated that at the end of the journey, it may result in nothing;
however, believes that there has to be some type of solution.
Mr. Burn stated that in light of Mr. DeMoura’s comments, he would like
to reiterate that this document not be a “shame on you”, but more so,
“how can we help you and is there anything we are able to do in order to
push this process along for everyone” type of letter.
Mr. Smith stated that he believes as a body that this is an easy exercise
for the Town to go through for a united vision on a #1 issue in this region
that we all share.
All present voted in favor.
4. Staff Update
Ms. Livingston stated that we are halfway through the year and wanted
to provide an update on how the Town is doing from an economic
standpoint. She stated that in 2016 the Town hosted 19 ribbon cuttings
for the whole year and two economic development announcements.
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She continued saying that during the first six months of 2017, there have
been 16 ribbon cuttings and two economic development
announcements. She stated that speaks volumes in terms of not only
how the Town’s economy is doing, but how to engage in the business
community. She stated that they are seeking the Town out and vice
versa. The business community is seeing the value of the relationship of
working with the Town. She stated that the Town has consistently said,
how do we continue to support these businesses as they are getting off
the ground, continue to grow and expand. She stated that this is an
opportunity to build a first-rate relationship with these businesses. She
stated that they continue to receive positive feedback.
She stated that over the last six months, the top Facebook posts for the
Town have been all ribbon cuttings. She stated that all the comments
have been positive. She said with #3, #4, and #5, this reaches over 30,000
people. She stated that she included this because this speaks to really
trying to personalize the government through the Town. She stated that
Council has done an amazing job with this.
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She stated that businesses consistently post how appreciative they are of
the support from the local government officials.
Mr. Smith stated that in reference to an earlier discussion on
communication, part of that success is Ms. Livingston and the Town’s
staff getting this information out and the timeliness of it.
Ms. Livingston stated that they are proactively reaching out to businesses
which is a new strategy. She stated that Council also launched the Town
Proud Local Certified Business program in October 2016, and there are
currently 84 certified businesses. She stated that they have held one
annual event that Council attended, and believes 25 additional
businesses signed up after that event. She stated that they felt they were
past the phase of enrollment and now moving into the phase of the
benefits for these businesses. She stated that they would like to begin a
quarterly social for Town Proud businesses only. She mentioned that
Town Council should have received their invitation, which will be on July
26th from 4 pm to 6 pm at Congress, which is also a Town Proud business.
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She stated that once the invitations went out, within three minutes they
had 7 people sign up their businesses. She stated that they have launched
a blog on the “Experience Mount Pleasant” website called Mount
Pleasantries, which is a great opportunity for the Town to be able to not
only promote businesses but the quality of life opportunities residents
can enjoy. She stated that they have taken the approach of not only
working for the promotion of businesses or tourists, but how it can be
put in front of the citizens for the citizens’ benefits as well.
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Ms. Livingston stated that on the two illustrations shown, their team has
started putting out weekly “Listicals” which allows them an opportunity
to support several businesses. These blogs are also featured in our
weekly “Around the Town” newsletter which was originally started for
hotels.
She stated that a key initiative that they have now is to start getting
residents involved.
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Ms. Livingston stated that Mr. Smith asked her to provide a look at
commercial construction permits. She stated that Mount Pleasant in the
first quarter of 2016 had 25 permits valued at almost $23 million and in
the first quarter of 2017, there were 50 permits valued at $50 million as
an indication of the economy.
Mr. Burn asked how it is looking for the rest of 2017 and if it was
anticipated to continue on this track for businesses.
Ms. Livingston stated that all the indicators from the data and studies
that they have been doing over the past few weeks, which will be
brought to Committee, Mount Pleasant looks to be a strong economic
engine.
Mr. Haynie asked that with the recent layoffs at Boeing that were
announced, has Ms. Livingston experienced any negative impacts.
Ms. Livingston stated that with the other larger employers in the region,
such as Volvo and Daimler, who have been actively trying to hire, it would
be a good strategy to hire those individuals. She stated that she is not
feeling any negative impacts.
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Mr. Smith stated that Boeing also had another article talking about the
significant number of planes they just received a contract from at an
airshow, which would require a certain number of workers. He stated
that the seasonality of manufacturing is likely a normal occurrence.
Mr. Burn stated that as difficult as it is trying to find employees right now,
it may be a good thing for Volvo, Daimler and others. It will provide the
region with more diversification. He stated that Boeing is getting
healthier. d
Mr. Smith stated that the next meeting opportunity with the report
partnering with Trident Technical Workforce Readiness, which is going to
be discussed at the next meeting. He stated that there was a report in
addition to the Port study as well.
5. Adjourn
There being no further business, meeting adjourned at 11:25 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara Ashe
June 29, 2017
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