Planning Commission
Regular MeetingMount Pleasant, SC · February 7, 2018
Minutes
TOWN OF MOUNT PLEASANT, SOUTH
CAROLINA SPECIAL PLANNING COMMISSION
FEBRUARY 7, 2018
MINUTES
Present: Joseph Wren, Chair, Roy Neal, Alys Campaigne, DeAudre Gregg,
John McNeill, Peter Lehman, Tripp Cuttino, Kathy Smith, Rodly Millet.
Staff: Jeff Ulma, David Pagliarini, Lee Cave, Kent Prause, Kevin Mitchell,
Michele Canon, Eddie Bernard, Liz Boyles, Allen Nodine, Marissa Poultney,
Lynnette Lynes
Mr. Wren called the meeting to order at 2:00 pm.
1. General Correspondence and Public Comments
Ms. Canon stated that all correspondence was received and distributed to the
Commission.
Mr. Mickey Seabrook, 732 Chatter Road, expressed concern with some of the tree
species being included as protected trees, such as sweetgum, pine, pecan, and
Chinese tallow trees. He stated that sweetgum trees attract termites which cause
damage to homes and structures in addition to other trees. He stated that the
energy the tree expends to produce fruit reduces the ability of the tree to develop
strong and resilient fiber that is resistant to disease, rot and pests. He stated that
pine trees are better suited to natural forest conditions where they can grow in
denser community groups than in urban settings. He stated that extensive damage
occurred during Hurricane Hugo as a result of fallen pine trees. He stated that
pecan trees are subject to extensive rot and several pests and diseases. He stated
that the “Landscape Plants of the Southeast” do not recommend pecan trees “for
residential landscaping since green nuts fall all summer littering lawns and patios”.
He stated that Wakendaw Lakes subdivision was part of a former pecan farm and
several trees have had to be removed due to rot, disease and fallen branches. He
stated that Chinese Tallows are an invasive and nuisance species which should
never be considered for protection.
Mr. Seabrook continued that consideration should be given to overcrowding and
possible stunted growth of understory trees by adding two more trees to the
Bufferyard B requirements. Further, he suggested that no retroactive application
of a 50 foot critical line buffer setback should be considered. He suggested that
before the widening of the critical line buffer setback is proposed, a scientific study
of soils, vegetation and other factors specific to the Town should be made with
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results showing probable environmental advantages, if any, afforded by additional
buffer width.
Ms. Betty Niermann, Seamon, Whiteside, and Associates, agreed with Mr.
Seabrook that the critical line buffer should not be increased as it would be
considered a taking of property. She also asked that the property between the
Ravenel Bridge and Ben Sawyer with a 25 foot buffer average and the area near the
Ravenel Bridge eastward of the Wando should remain with a minimum setback of
30 feet. She suggested that trees in the wetlands should be allowed to count
toward the mitigation requirement and suggested that this could be accomplished
with counting wetlands toward the allowed developable land. She also expressed
concern with the bufferyard requirements and suggested that requiring a buffer
for property next to vacant property a street should be reconsidered and removed
from the ordinance. She expressed concern with the 160 inch retention
requirement for residential developments as it could mean that a significant
reduction in the number of buildable lots.
Mr. Jon Popelka, 164 4th Avenue, asked if the critical line buffer would apply to all
property or only the newly platted lots. He asked expressed concern with whether
there would be applicable dates included. He stated that while the intent might
not be to “hurt” the property owners, he has two properties that would be
significantly affected by the critical line buffer and essentially make those
properties unbuildable.
Ms. Angela Jurisi, 152 4th Avenue, expressed concern with the proposed increased
critical line buffer and that if there is a storm event and her home is damaged,
would they be allowed to rebuild their home or have to comply with the new buffer
requirements. She agreed with not including sweetgum and pine trees as
protected trees.
Mr. Patrick Arnold, Executive Director of the Charleston Homebuilders Association,
expressed concern with a special meeting being held as they understood that they
could provide input at the next Planning Commission meeting. He expressed
concern with pine and non-native species being a protected species because they
are a danger to the community, especially because how easily they fall in wet soil
and during storm events. He suggested that protecting these trees could mean
some properties would be unbuildable. He suggested that there should be input
from arborists and tree protection experts prior to implementation.
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Mr. Bob Pickard, Savannah Hwy, agreed with Mr. Arnold that more arborist input
should be provided. He suggested that more time is needed to review the changes
and provide professional opinion. He agreed with Mr. Popelka that these are
significant changes and more input and time should be allowed for this issue.
2. New Business
A. Review of zoning code text amendments pertaining to tree and bufferyard
requirements.
Ms. Canon reviewed staff comments with the Commission (attachments 1
& 2).
Ms. Smith asked about the critical line buffer average allowance. Ms. Canon
answered that the 35 foot critical line buffer can be averaged with a minimum
of 20 feet. She stated that there is a 30 foot impervious surface setback as well.
So, while the critical line buffer might be a minimum of 20 feet in some sections,
a structure could not be built at the 20 foot buffer line; the impervious setback
would restrict the construction of structures to 30 feet from the critical line.
Mr. Wren asked if there are any examples in the Old Village area. Mr. Bernard
answered in the negative.
Ms. Campaigne stated that buffers are important for wildlife, soil erosion, water
quality and resilience from flooding. She suggested that the 15 foot and 35 foot
critical line buffer setback was established in order to address water quality. She
stated that since the setback was established, there has been tremendous
development on the waterfront. She stated that from a water quality
perspective the need is more imperative as the Town is under the DHEC
impaired water body list, not just for Shem Creek but for the Wando area as
well. She stated that resilience is another issue. She stated that sea level is
projected to rise another 30 feet by 2020. She stated that other municipalities,
such as Beaufort, SC, have used critical line buffers as a tool for planning and
managing flooding and water quality. She suggested that the intent is to have
something in place for future development and redevelopment of land that
takes into account the new buffer setback. She suggested that buffer averaging
should remain. She suggested that the two gateway districts are no longer
needed in this instance because the issue is not density but rather flood risk.
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She suggested that the impervious setback works. She suggested that using an
adaptive area action planning tool as is done in Florida could be beneficial. She
stated that this would create an overlay with regulations regarding
redevelopment to have a more flood-resistant structure. She suggested that
this should be further discussed through the Comprehensive Plan update. She
suggested that having a 50 foot critical line buffer should be recommended.
Mr. Wren asked for clarification on Ms. Campaigne’s recommendation. Ms.
Campaigne answered that the critical line buffer setback should be 50 feet for
all properties.
Ms. Smith stated that the critical line buffer setback was established in 2000 and
the reason for using 15 feet and 35 feet was to take into account those
properties that were already developed. She suggested that with the increase
in population in the Town means there should be some changes to the
regulations. She stated that this is currently being accomplished through the
Comprehensive Plan update as well.
Mr. Neal expressed concern with some of the proposed changes. He suggested
that the buffer averaging should be maintained. He suggested that this is
secondary to determining an effective date. He expressed concern with
significantly changing the critical line buffer setback for existing homes. He
stated that the intent is justified, but the Commission should carefully move
forward with the recommendations as it could mean significant impact to
existing homes.
Mr. Pagliarini stated that South Carolina has a vested rights policy. He stated
that an effective date can be determined, if desired by the Commission. He
stated that another remedy is applying to the Board of Zoning Appeals (BOZA)
for a variance for certain circumstances.
Ms. Smith stated that the current ordinance included an effective date and
suggested that this could be recommended as well.
Mr. McNeill agreed that an effective date should be determined.
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Mr. Millet agreed that careful consideration should be taken to ensure
appropriate language to address these concerns. He suggested that identifying
the major concerns might be beneficial going forward.
Mr. Neal agreed and suggested that there should be a consensus on how to
move forward.
Ms. Smith suggested that an effective date would be determined by Town
Council and upon approval of the ordinance.
Ms. Smith moved for approval of changing the critical line buffer setback to
be a 50 foot average buffer setback and be required for all property in the Town
with approved final plats, sketch plans, preliminary plats and lots of record as of
the effective date of the ordinance should not be subject to the 50 foot buffer
setback. Ms. Campaigne seconded the motion.
Mr. Wren asked for clarification and if a minimum setback should be
determined. Mr. Bernard answered in the affirmative.
Ms. Smith withdrew her motion. Ms. Campaigne withdrew her second.
Ms. Campaigne suggested that the exemption could be accomplished by
updating the current ordinance language.
Ms. Smith moved for approval of the critical line buffer setback to be 50 foot
average with a minimum 30 foot for all properties in the Town, exempting
approved, sketch plans, preliminary plat, final plats and lots of record effective
the date the ordinance is signed. Ms. Campaigne seconded the motion.
Mr. Neal suggested that requiring a 50 foot critical line buffer setback in areas
where the current buffer setback is 15 feet, would be “too much”.
Ms. Campaigne stated that the increased buffer would not apply to existing lots,
so the amount of property that would be subject to the new setback would be
minimal. She suggested that redevelopment and directing future use. She
stated that this is being discussed in other coastal towns and areas as well.
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Mr. Wren asked if the impervious setback applies throughout the Town. Ms.
Canon answered in the affirmative and stated that if applies in areas where
there is a critical line buffer.
Mr. McNeill asked for clarification on the effective date. Ms. Lynes read the
motion for the Commission. Mr. Prause clarified that an ordinance is effective
upon final reading.
Mr. Neal asked if the motion would be sufficient to protect existing homes. Mr.
Prause stated that according to the motion on the floor, an approved plat would
be exempted. Mr. Pagliarini suggested that if an approved plat is updated
because of a change to a critical line and the plat is essentially changed it would
mean that they would be subject to the new setback requirement. Mr. Prause
stated that if the plat changes through a subdivision or combination of lots, then
the new setback would apply.
Mr. Lehman asked how many lots would be affected. Ms. Canon answered that
staff does not have an exact number.
Mr. McNeill asked what the anticipated timeline is for the ordinance being
approved. Ms. Canon answered that it would have final reading at the April
Town Council meeting barring any deferrals or delays.
Mr. Wren called for a vote on the motion. Motion passed on a 7 to 2 vote
with Ms. Campaigne, Ms. Gregg, Mr. McNeill, Mr. Wren, Ms. Smith, Mr. Lehman,
and Mr. Millet in favor; Mr. Neal and Mr. Cuttino opposed.
Mr. Bernard asked the Commission on how buffers should be treated in terms
of re-planting areas where there previously was no buffer.
Ms. Gregg asked if the buffer penalties would apply. Mr. Bernard answered that
this would only apply to an illegal removal of plantings in the buffer. Ms. Smith
suggested that the examples of nearby buffers should be used when
determining the buffer and how it should be planted.
Mr. Neal suggested that this should not be regulated by the Commission. Ms.
Campaigne agreed.
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Mr. Wren suggested that staff bring back a recommendation for consideration.
Ms. Canon reviewed the proposed changes to the tree ordinance with the
Commission.
Mr. Neal commended staff for their work on this issue. He suggested that pine
trees and sweetgums should not be protected. He suggested that the current
list could be kept as protected with lowering the caliper to 8 inches.
Ms. Smith stated that the intent is to preserve the current tree canopy of the
Town. She stated that another issue is drainage and the fact that trees help with
property drainage.
Ms. Campaigne agreed that careful consideration should be taken when
determining what should be protected. She asked if a distinction could be made
between protecting pine trees within buffers, etc. Mr. Bernard answered that
this is already being accomplished.
Ms. Gregg suggested that the natural vegetation should be preserved.
Mr. Wren asked for clarification on where pine trees are not protected. Mr.
Bernard answered that they are not protected outside of buffer areas. Mr.
Wren asked how cumbersome it would be to decrease the caliper that is
considered protected. Mr. Bernard answered that it would significantly increase
staff review and enforcement.
Mr. Millet agreed that careful consideration should be taken, particularly when
determining whether to move to protecting 8 inch trees for residential property.
Mr. Wren agreed that sweetgum trees should be exempted except in buffer
areas.
Ms. Campaigne suggested that the public input should be taken into
consideration before a recommendation is finalized.
Mr. Neal asked if changes to the text amendment could be done after the public
hearing. Mr. Pagliarini answered that changes could be made. Ms. Canon
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suggested that a recommendation should be made so that the changes can be
made prior to the next meeting.
Mr. Neal moved for approval of the tree ordinance as proposed with deletion
of protection of pine trees and sweetgum trees. Mr. Cuttino seconded the
motion.
Mr. Neal stated that the issue of 160 inch tree requirement for developments
has not been discussed and suggested that there should be some consideration
for exemption for areas near special buffers areas, etc.
Ms. Campaigne asked for clarification. Mr. Neal answered that wetlands are not
allowed to be counted as part of mitigation.
Ms. Smith asked for clarification on the motion. Mr. Neal answered that he
wanted more discussion regarding the 160 inch tree requirement before
including in the motion.
Mr. McNeill suggested that clarification on the 160 inch tree requirement should
be determined before a vote on the motion is made.
Mr. Neal stated that he is in favor of the 160 inch requirement but suggested
that there should be some allowance for special buffer areas and wetlands.
Mr. Wren called for a vote on the motion. Motion failed on a 4 to 5 motion
with Mr. McNeill, Mr. Lehman, Mr. Neal and Mr. Cuttino in favor; Ms.
Campaigne, Ms. Gregg, Mr. Wren, Ms. Smith and Mr. Millet opposed.
Mr. Millet suggested that reducing the caliper inch requirement for protected
should be considered. Mr. Bernard stated that there was discussion on reducing
the protected caliper inch to coincide with the commercial requirement of
protection of trees 8 inches or greater.
Mr. Wren moved to delete sweetgums as protected except in buffer areas.
Mr. Millet seconded the motion.
Mr. Millet moved to amend the motion to reduce the caliper inch for
protected trees from 16 inches to 13 inches. Ms. Smith seconded the motion.
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Ms. Smith asked if staff is comfortable with the recommendation. Mr. Bernard
answered that staff would enforce whatever is approved.
Mr. Wren called for a vote on the amendment. Motion failed on a 1 to 8 vote
with Mr. Millet in favor; Ms. Campaigne, Ms. Gregg, Mr. McNeill, Mr. Wren, Ms.
Smith, Mr. Lehman, Mr. Neal, and Mr. Cuttino opposed.
Mr. Wren called for a vote on the original motion. All in favor.
Mr. Neal moved for approval of requiring 160 inches of trees per developed
acre with provision for a 50% credit for acreage in wetlands, retention ponds,
and right-of-ways. Mr. McNeill seconded the motion.
Ms. Campaigne asked for clarification on what would apply. Ms. Canon
answered that the requirement would apply to all protected trees. Ms.
Campaigne suggested that existing trees regardless of the species should be
retained as much as possible.
Mr. Bernard asked for clarification on the 50% credit for trees in the wetlands,
retention ponds, and right-of-ways. He suggested that if this is desired, then
wetland, retention pond, and right-of-way acreage should be included in the
160 inch formula. Mr. Neal stated that this motion is based on a
recommendation from the public. Mr. Bernard suggested that if a credit is
desired for these areas, then they should be included in the 160 inch tree
requirement acreage calculation. Mr. Neal answered that this was his intent of
the motion.
Mr. Wren asked for the motion to be restated. Ms. Lynes restated the motion
for the Commission.
Mr. McNeill asked if the “developable” language would be removed. Ms. Canon
stated that staff could revise the language and bring back to the Commission.
Mr. Wren called for a vote on the motion. Motion failed on a 3 to 6 vote with
Mr. McNeill, Mr. Neal, and Mr. Cuttino in favor; Ms. Campaigne, Ms. Gregg, Mr.
Wren, Ms. Smith, Mr. Lehman, and Mr. Millet opposed.
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Ms. Campaigne suggested that the language should be “tweaked” if the intent
is to preserve wooded areas to ensure clarification.
Mr. Cuttino asked if the height of the protective fencing would change. Mr.
Bernard answered in the negative and stated that it is four feet.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 3:54 pm.
Submitted by,
L. Lynes
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AGENDA
1. Roll call
2. Correspondence and Public Comments
3. New Business
Review of zoning code text amendments pertaining to tree and
bufferyard requirements.
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4. Adjourn
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