Council of the Municipality of Murrysville
Regular MeetingMurrysville, PA · March 2, 2016
Minutes
Regular Voting Meeting – Wednesday, March 2, 2016
Council of the Municipality of Murrysville held a Regular Voting Meeting on Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 7:00
p.m. in the Municipal Building. Present at the meeting were Council members Joan Kearns, Jamie Lee, David
Perry, Jeffery Kepler, Loren Kase, Josh Lorenz, and Tony Spadaro. Also present were Chief Administrator James
Morrison, Solicitor George Kotjarapoglus, Municipal Engineer Joe Dietrick, and Municipal Planner Allen Cohen.
THE MUNICIPALITY OF MURRYSVILLE WELCOMES
JOHN HINES – MARCH FOR PARKS
MURRYSVILLE RECREATION DEPARTMENT
John Hines, a member of the Citizens Advisory Council for Westmoreland Parks and Recreation, thanked Council
for allowing him to speak and gave information about the upcoming March for Parks to be held March 19 at
Twin Lakes Park in Greensburg, Cedar Creek Park in Belle Vernon and Duff Park/SportsZone in Murrysville. The
March is a fundraiser for parks and trail projects in Westmoreland County and the money raised in Murrysville
will be used to work on the Turtle Creek extension of the Westmoreland Heritage Trail in preparation for
construction of 5.6 miles of the Trail in 2017. He encouraged residents to participate by volunteering and/or
walking. He also noted that dogs are welcomed at the Murrysville walk this year.
Carly Green, Murrysville’s Director of Recreation, spoke about the upcoming March 18 egg hunt at Murrysville
Community Park for both dogs and kids. There will be treats and refreshments for everyone, the Easter Chick
will be there for photos, and many other exciting things happening. Volunteers are needed to set up, serve food
and clean up. Carly was joined by Amy Wengrzyn, Special Events Coordinator, and the Easter Bunny, who
passed out treats to Council and residents.
REGULAR VOTING MEETING AGENDA
UNISTED AMENDMENTS:
1. Under Council Action Items – Community Development – ADD Item No. 14D – Reconsideration of
revisions and partial bond release for SP-6-14, Murrysville Racquet Club;
2. Under Council Action Items – Executive Session – ADD Item No. 19A – Legal Issue.
Mr. Kepler moved to approve the agenda as amended. Mr. Kase seconded. All present voted aye. Motion
approved.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS:
A. ACCOUNTS PAYABLE
B. FEBRUARY 3, 2016 MEETING MINUTES TO BE APPROVED
Ms. Lee moved to approve the Consent Calendar items. Mr. Kepler seconded. All present voted aye. Motion
approved.
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COMMUNITY INPUT:
Dee Wingard of 2550 Kohosek Court again voiced concerns about the number of vehicles that will be traveling
Kohosek Court if the rezoning of property between Kohosek and Haymaker is approved and the proposed 120-
unit development is built.
Eleanor Sharp of 3339 Shady Drive thanked Council for presenting the recent Marcellus Shale educational
session and thanked them in advance for the upcoming planned sessions.
Russell Mills, representing APB Holdings, presented some additional information to Council regarding the traffic
study prepared by Charles E. Wooster & Associates. He discussed the number of peak hour trips that would be
generated from the proposed development. He commented on Mr. Bucciero’s commitment to the community
and the work he has already done on the site (i.e., reclamation of the site by filling the former junk yard
property with fill to road level and rehabilitating the former strip mine area) and that he has a commitment to
responsible development in the community.
WORKSHOP ITEMS
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT:
10A. DISCUSSION OF S-2-16, MURRYCREST SUBDIVISION, HAY LANE, 3 LOTS.
Chris Kerns of Echo Land Solutions, who is also the applicant, briefed Council on the plan, which has access from
both Hay Lane and Treesdale Court. He proposes to subdivide the property into 3 lots, with one accessible from
Hay Lane and the other 2 accessible from Treesdale Court. Municipal staff and the engineer have all approved
the plan. Mrs. Kearns asked if the lots will be serviced by public water and sewer. Mr. Kerns advised that the
two lots accessed from Treesdale have public water and sewage, while the lot accessed from Hay Lane will have
a well and public sewage. Mr. Cohen advised Council that fee-in-lieu is recommended for Murrysville
Community Park payable at the time a building permit is issued.
Mrs. Kearns had a concern that, for over 40 years, an apartment complex has existed on Sardis Road which is
referred to as Murrycrest and she didn’t want a potential for confusion to exist. She said Mr. Dietrick feels the
requested subdivision is small enough that the name will disappear quickly. Mr. Kerns said he chose the name
because the West Penn Power substation at the end of Hay Lane is known as the Murrycrest Substation. Mr.
Dietrick said there are a lot of small subdivisions in the community and, in his opinion, he doesn’t believe many
people remember any of the names. Mr. Perry said as long as the lots have the correct 911 address, he has no
concerns. This will be moved to the next meeting as an action item.
10B. DISCUSSION OF THE FEBRUARY 24, 2016 OIL AND GAS DRILLING EDUCATION SESSION AND PLANNING
OF FUTURE PROGRAMS.
Municipal Planner Allen Cohen said that, from a staff perspective, everyone was pleased with the attendance,
presentation, and the depth of the questions and answers. Mr. Cohen said he came out of the meeting with a
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lot of “take-aways” that could be incorporated into the ordinance because of the information provided at the
session regarding what DEP does and doesn’t do, and what would be most appropriate to address or not
address in the Municipality’s ordinance. He said it was very valuable from many different perspectives. Staff is
in the process of planning a second session that will focus on the industry’s perspectives on oil and gas drilling
and will touch on topics such as their own practices, best management practices being utilized and how they
operate a site and deal with impacts of the development. That session is being targeted, tentatively, for March
30 pending Council’s approval. A third session is also being planned for mid-April that will focus on the
environmental and health impacts and perspectives from environmentalists and health professionals on
Marcellus shale drilling.
Mr. Lorenz said there were a number of people who had a desire to submit questions and have them answered
by DEP and asked if anyone had submitted any questions to the Municipality. He asked if none have been
submitted, can residents still do so and will they be forwarded to the DEP for a response. Mr. Cohen said he has
not received any but suggested that if there are questions residents should e-mail them to the Municipality.
Mrs. Kearns said that both speakers indicated they would be willing to come again or to answer any questions
that might arise. Mr. Cohen said that if anyone e-mails questions, he will forward them directly to the
presenters for their answer.
Mr. Kepler said he didn’t think there was enough time for questions/answers and said there should be no more
than 50% of the time used for the presentation, with the rest for questions. He suggested that, if time runs out,
index cards should be made available so that people can write down questions and have them answered; also,
the answers should be posted on the website so that everyone in attendance could get the answers.
Ms. Lee said she is glad that members of other communities joined the presentation but wondered if there
would be a way to prioritize Murrysville residents’ questions first before input or questions from members of
other communities. Mr. Morrison said it’s a matter of who gets here first and that the next time around, rather
than going down the list, names could be pulled out of a hat or some other random selection so that comments
can be heard from a mix of the people in attendance. Mr. Morrison said staff has some work to do now that
they know what DEP’s position is, not only in the rulemaking, but the representatives gave insight into how the
Municipality can/will manage, which will help refine some of the things in the pending ordinance that now exist.
Mr. Kepler said he spoke with one of the representatives after the meeting and asked when the rules would go
into effect and was told they are “pending” and there are several roadblocks in the way. Mr. Kepler said that
should be made commonly known. Mr. Perry said the rules have gone through the Science Advisory Board but
they haven’t gotten through committee and haven’t gone through the politicians. He said what comes out will
probably be vastly different than what feeds in. Mr. Morrison wanted to remind everyone that the first
ordinance put together was prior to Act 13 and the Supreme Court decision and the pending ordinance is
essentially an update based on those two things.
Mr. Lorenz commented on Mr. Kepler’s comments about the time for questions and said that it was his
understanding that the time for questions was to be limited to clarification or to gain a better understanding of
the information presented by DEP at the session. It appeared to him that many of the questions were prepared
and, obviously, if prepared in advance weren’t in response to information presented but were requests for
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additional information or insight. He said that, in the context of what staff is trying to do and with the time
constraints, he’s not sure if that’s the best use of the time allotted. He thinks Mr. Kepler’s suggestion is good
that those with questions that aren’t directly on point to what is being presented or that may be related could
be put in writing and submitted to the presenters so the public can get answers to those questions but not
consuming time at the session that might be spent better otherwise. There was additional discussion on how to
conduct the question/answer session. Mr. Morrison said he was very pleased with the way the session went
and congratulated those in attendance. He then said he had been in touch with Huntley & Huntley to put them
on notice that staff would like them to attend the upcoming session to discuss their commitment and plan in
Murrysville. After discussion among Council members as to what dates they would be available, it was decided
to hold the session on March 30.
COUNCIL - ACTION ITEMS
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT:
14A. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NO. 943-16 TO REZONE PROPERTIES ON THE OFFICIAL ZONING
MAP OF THE MUNICIPALITY OF MURRYSVILLE FROM APPLICATION Z-2-15, DIADON, LLC, FROM MIXED USE (MU)
TO BUSINESS (B).
Mr. Lorenz moved to approve the ordinance. Mr. Spadaro seconded. Mrs. Kearns had a concern that the other
properties to the west to School Road will be left “hanging out there” and she would rather see the parcel as
part of a comprehensive change as opposed to piecemeal changing.
Upon a roll call vote: Mrs. Kearns – no, Ms. Lee – yes, Mr. Perry – no, Mr. Kepler – no, Mr. Kase – yes, Mr.
Lorenz – yes, Mr. Spadaro – yes. Motion approved.
14B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF REVISION TO S-9-15, KARP PLAN OF LOTS, 3927 HILTY ROAD, TAX PARCEL 49-
12-00-0-024.
Mr. Perry moved to approve the revision with 2 conditions: plan recordation subject to approval of the planning
module for on-lot sewage for lot 1-R and payment of $1,250 as fee-in-lieu at the time that a building permit is
issued for a dwelling on lot 1-R. The applicant agreed to the conditions. Mr. Kase seconded.
Upon a roll call vote: Mrs. Kearns – yes, Ms. Lee – yes, Mr. Perry – yes, Mr. Kepler – yes, Mr. Kase – yes, Mr.
Lorenz – yes, Mr. Spadaro – yes. Motion approved.
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14C. CONSIDER AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE ORDINANCE NO. 945-16, Z-1-16, APB HOLDINGS, LLC, A
REZONING FOR PROPERTY BETWEEN KOHOSEK ROAD AND HAYMAKER ROAD, TAX PARCEL 49-15-00-0-248, R-R
AND B TO R-3 FOR THAT PARCEL.
Mr. Lorenz moved to authorize advertisement of the ordinance. Mr. Spadaro seconded. Mrs. Kearns said that,
even though this motion is only to advertise, she has concerns about the traffic generation. She said the
applicant neglected to include the ADT estimated trips for 120 units (not just peak times) as 760 vehicle trips per
day. She believes the noted 70 trips per day is totally unrealistic. She said today’s society is very mobile and
Murrysville is a drive and park community. She said she is opposed to this request and will fight it; the jump
from RR to R-3 is huge. There were no comments from other Council members.
Upon a roll call vote: Mrs. Kearns – no, Ms. Lee – no, Mr. Perry – abstain pending discussions with the Solicitor
because the applicant is a personal friend, Mr. Kepler – no, Mr. Kase – yes, Mr. Lorenz – yes, Mr. Spadaro – yes.
The vote is tied 3-3.
Solicitor Kotjarapoglus raised a point that, under the Municipality’s Planning Code, Council is required to follow
the process for rezoning. Whether Council approves the application is a separate matter, but the applicant is
entitled to have his request heard as a rezoning ordinance from which he can appeal. At this point, Council can
have a reconsideration of the motion and wait until it moves forward for the next motion, but it just can’t die.
Mr. Kepler asked if it can’t die, what’s the purpose of voting? The Solicitor said Council has to vote so the
applicant is entitled to a decision on the request; voting not to advertise is not a decision on his application. Mr.
Kepler said he understands that, but asked why Council is given the option to say no at this time. The Solicitor
said Council can vote no, but the applicant can get a judge to order the advertisement. Mr. Lorenz said his
friendly suggestion is for those who did not vote yes, to reconsider their vote. Mr. Lorenz then made a motion
to reconsider the vote on the motion that he made to advertise. Mr. Morrison said that Council has to
understand that this is an action directing staff to take an action. Mr. Kase seconded the motion to reconsider.
All those present voted aye.
On the original motion to advertise, upon a roll call vote: Mrs. Kearns – yes, Ms. Lee – yes, Mr. Perry – abstain,
Mr. Kepler – yes, Mr. Kase – yes, Mr. Lorenz – yes, Mr. Spadaro – yes. Motion approved.
14D. RECONSIDERATION OF REVISIONS AND PARTIAL BOND RELEASE FOR SP-6-14, MURRYSVILLE RACQUET
CLUB.
Mr. Perry moved to reconsider prior approval of the double amended motion to approve the revisions as
presented in SP-6-14, Murrysville Racquet Club site, the site revisions being known as the landscaping, handicap
zone and striping, and the drop-off zone, and to release all the bond money with the exception of $5,000 to
address outstanding issues. Ms. Lee seconded.
Prior to a vote, Mr. Perry asked if Council can make a motion to table so that they can have a discussion with the
developer on… Mrs. Kearns said not on this step but that can be done when Council gets into a discussion on
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the original motion. Upon a roll call vote: Mrs. Kearns – yes, Ms. Lee – yes, Mr. Perry – yes, Mr. Kepler – yes, Mr.
Kase – no, Mr. Lorenz – yes, Mr. Spadaro – yes. Motion to reconsider approved.
The original motion approved at the February 17 meeting was to approve revisions to SP-6-2014, Murrysville
Racquet Club site, and release of bond. The original motion is on the floor and does not have to be seconded.
Discussion followed.
Municipal Engineer Joe Dietrick visited the site with Council members and presented a drawing of the site
showing the original plan as approved and the as-built plan as presented. The handicapped space will remain as
moved near the door and the island beside it will be somewhat curved and extended to wrap around in order to
protect the handicapped space. There are 9 parking spaces nearest the building because the original landscape
islands were not put in. Those will need to be put back in with asphalt curbs as well to protect them from traffic.
The drop-off area will be moved across from the front door and all aisle widths, which are currently 16’ wide,
will be made 20’ wide. Mr. Dietrick explained that if Council approves something, Mr. Hafeez will have to revise
his official drawing for resubmission so that becomes the official record. Mrs. Kearns said a sign will need to be
placed at the drop-off zone and that can be discussed with Mr. Hafeez.
Mr. Kase asked if Mr. Hafeez has had an opportunity to see the drawing and was advised that he is out of the
country. Mr. Kase reminded Council that Mr. Hafeez was told that Council would get together, get their ideas to
staff in a more formal manner and then have a discussion with Mr. Hafeez before making a decision. He said he
agrees with all of the changes, but Council has to stand by their agreement with Mr. Hafeez.
Mr. Kepler said he believes the agreement was that Council retained a certain amount of money and would
meet with Mr. Hafeez to come to an agreement as to what needed to be fixed and then address it. What
happened was that Mr. Dietrick visited the site and realized that it was going to be more expensive than he
originally thought.
Mr. Lorenz said it’s not that the changes will be more expensive but, rather, that the work that needs to be done
is more extensive than Council was led to believe. Mrs. Kearns said that most of the work to be done was on the
original plan so, if it had been done right the first time, Council wouldn’t be where they are now. Mr. Kase said
that Council approved the partial release of the bond. Mrs. Kearns said that no funds have been released yet
and in order to hold back sufficient funds to ensure that the work is done, Council had to take the action to
reconsider the prior motion. Mr. Perry said this issue has come up because of the deficiencies in following the
approved site plan.
Mr. Kepler moved to table until a meeting is set up with Mr. Hafeez. Ms. Lee seconded. Mr. Morrison was not
able to participate in the prior discussions and told Council that there is a very long history with this project and
in dealing with Mr. Hafeez. It only came to the point where Mr. Morrison directed staff, after numerous
occasions of trying to bring Mr. Hafeez to a point where he needed to be to at least have the project be
acceptable, that it was the recommendation that it come back to Council because he did not believe that
Murrysville was getting a product that staff expected to get. In addition, some of the statements that were
made were not completely accurate. Mr. Morrison said he hopes that Mr. Hafeez will get to a point where the
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updates to the plan are good and he is happy it came back to Council. Mrs. Kearns said that Council did not
totally believe in what Mr. Hafeez said on some issues. Ms. Lee said there are photos to back up to the fact that
Council received misleading information. There was no further discussion
Upon a roll call vote: Mrs. Kearns – yes, Ms. Lee – yes, Mr. Perry – yes, Mr. Kepler – yes, Mr. Kase – yes, Mr.
Lorenz – yes, Mr. Spadaro – yes. Motion to table approved.
ENGINEERING:
15A. CONSIDER REDUCTION OF THE BOND BEING HELD FOR THE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE BLUE
SPRUCE DEVELOPMENT.
Mr. Perry moved to consider reducing the bond amount for the performance bond being held to ensure the
completion of the required improvements at the Blue Spruce Shoppes development: site improvements reduced
to $0.00 and storm water management reduced to $0.00. Mr. Kase seconded.
Mr. Dietrick advised that he met with a representative from the Conservation District and was advised that a
notice of termination would be issued for the NPDS permit (that’s a good thing; it means the permit is done).
There are only a few items that fall under landscaping and that staff would be back in the spring to see about
finishing that and releasing the rest of the money.
Upon a roll call vote: Mrs. Kearns – yes, Ms. Lee – yes, Mr. Perry – abstain as his company does work for the
developer, Mr. Kepler – yes, Mr. Kase – yes, Mr. Lorenz – yes, Mr. Spadaro – yes. Motion approved.
15B. CONSIDER REDUCTION OF THE BOND BEING HELD FOR THE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE
AUTOZONE DEVELOPMENT.
Mr. Kase moved to consider reducing the bond amount for the performance bond being held to ensure the
completion of the required improvements at the AutoZone development from $484,011 to $10,000. Mr. Kepler
seconded.
Mr. Dietrick said that there a few landscaping issues to be reviewed in the spring and there is a sidewalk to be
installed on the west side of the entrance which hasn’t been put in yet. There were no further questions.
Upon a roll call vote: Mrs. Kearns – yes, Ms. Lee – yes, Mr. Perry – yes, Mr. Kepler – yes, Mr. Kase – yes, Mr.
Lorenz – yes, Mr. Spadaro – yes. Motion approved.
15C. CONSIDER AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE RFP FOR BRIDGE INSPECTION.
Mr. Kepler moved to authorize the advertisement. Ms. Lee seconded. Mr. Dietrick explained that in the past
local bridge inspections had been handled through the Municipal liaison with PennDOT and the Municipality.
PennDOT is on the Engineering & Construction Management system (ECMS) and everything that PennDOT does
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must go through that site. If a contractor is bidding on a job, he must go on the site, download the plans and
submit the bid through the site. PennDOT is now making Municipalities go through that same process for local
bridge inspection contracts. All proposals must go through that system and then Murrysville must approve
them through the same system. He said the bridges are due to be inspected in August and if Murrysville doesn’t
get stuff in place in time, PennDOT will do the inspections, which will most certainly cost more than if a private
firm is hired to do the inspections. There no questions or comments.
Upon a roll call vote: Mrs. Kearns – yes, Ms. Lee – yes, Mr. Perry – yes, Mr. Kepler – yes, Mr. Kase – yes, Mr.
Lorenz – yes, Mr. Spadaro – yes. Motion approved.
OLD BUSINESS: Mr. Morrison advised Council that he has received many positive phone calls regarding the
Route 22 traffic signals.
NEW BUSINESS: None.
EXECUTIVE SESSION: Council adjourned to Executive Session at 8:18 p.m. to discuss a Legal Issue and
reconvened at 8:26 p.m. There was no action coming out of the session.
ACTION ITEMS: None.
ADJOURNMENT:
Ms. Lee moved to adjourn. Kase seconded. All present voted aye. Motion approved. The Council Meeting
concluded at 8:27 p.m.
The Regular Voting Meeting was broadcast on local government Channel 19. A true copy of the Council meeting
DVD is available for the public to purchase from the Municipality of Murrysville and is in the Murrysville Public
Library for review.
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Agenda
COUNCIL OF THE MUNICIPALITY OF MURRYSVILLE
March 2, 2016
7:00 p.m.
THE MUNICIPALITY OF MURRYSVILLE WELCOMES…
JOHN HINES – MARCH FOR PARKS
MURRYSVILLE RECREATION DEPARTMENT
REGULAR VOTING MEETING
AGENDA
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call/Voting Order/Pledge of Allegiance
3. Announcement of Unlisted Amendments
4. Consent Calendar Items
A. Accounts Payable.
B. February 3, 2016, Meeting Minutes to be approved.
5. Community Input
6. Comments by Mayor Brooks
7. Comments by the Chief Administrator
8. Liaison Comments and Committee Reports
WORKSHOP ITEMS
9. Engineering
10. Community Development
A. Discussion of S-2-16, Murrysville Subdivision, Hay Lane, 3 lots.
B. Recap of February 24, 2016, Educational Session.
11. Public Works and Parks
12. Administration
COUNCIL ACTION ITEMS
13. Administration
14. Community Development
A. Consider approval of Ordinance No. 943-16 to rezone properties on the Official Zoning Map of the
Municipality of Murrysville from application Z-2-15, Diadon, LLC from Mixed Use (MU) to
Business (B).
B. Consider approval of S-9-15, Karp Plan of Lots, 3927 Hilty Road, Tax Parcel 49-12-00-0-024.
C. Consider authorization to advertise Ordinance No. 945-16, Z-1-16, APB Holdings, LLC, a
rezoning near the intersection of Kohosek Road and Haymaker Road, Tax Parcel 49-15-00-0-248,
R-R and B to R-3 for that parcel.
15. Engineering
A. Consider reduction of the bond being held for the required improvements for the Blue Spruce
development.
B. Consider reduction of the bond being held for the required improvements for the AutoZone
development.
C. Consider authorization to advertise RFP for Bridge Inspection.
16. Public Works and Parks
17. Old Business
18. New Business
19. Executive Session
20. Action Items
21. Adjournment
Document date: 02/18/2016
Revised date: 02/24/2016
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