City Council Finance Committee Meeting
Regular MeetingNorman, OK · March 16, 2023
Minutes
CITY OF NORMAN, OK
CITY COUNCIL FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING
Municipal Building, Executive Conference Room, 201 West Gray, Norman,
OK 73069
Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 4:00 PM
MINUTES
The City Council Finance Committee of the City of Norman, Cleveland County, State of Oklahoma, met
at 4:00 pm in the Municipal Building Executive Conference Room on the 16th day of March, 2023, and
notice of agenda of the meeting were posted in the Municipal Building at 201 West Gray, 24 hours prior
to the beginning of the meeting.
PRESENT
Mayor Larry Heikkila
Councilmember Ward 3 Kelly Lynn
ABSENT
Councilmember Ward 6 Elizabeth Foreman
OTHERS PRESENT
Councilmember Ward 4 Helen Grant
Councilmember Ward 7 Stephen Holman
Anthony Francisco, Director of Finance
Kim Coffman, Budget Manager
Jacob Huckabaa, Budget Technician
Dannielle Risenhoover, Administrative Tech IV
Shawn O'Leary, Director of Public Works
Mike White, Fleet Program Manager
Rick Jackson, Deputy Police Chief
Jamie Shattuck, Police Patrol Bureau
Joyce Green, GIS Services Manager
Brenda Hall, City Clerk
Andy Couch, Executive Director & Curator for Fire House Art Center
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Heikkila welcomed everyone to the meeting. The meeting began at approximately 4:00
PM.
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AGENDA ITEMS
1. DISCUSSION REGARDING THE FYE 2024 CITY OF NORMAN BUDGET.
Anthony Francisco discussed the Budget Reports. Three outside agencies are
requesting additional General Fund financial support from City of Norman in Fiscal Year
2023 - 2024. These agencies are Performing Arts Studio, Moore-Lindsay Historical
Museum, and Firehouse Art Center. Board Members were aware of the City's previous
financial contributions to these agencies and informed of their requests for additional
funding, being: $2200 requested by Performing Arts Studio, $3000 requested by Moore-
Lindsay Historical House Museum, and $60,000 requested by Firehouse Art Center.
Andy Couch, Executive Director & Curator for Firehouse Art Center was present and
spoke to members regarding the Center's request for funds. Couch stated that
Firehouse Art Center is requesting additional funds primarily due to the "cut to the arts
in terms of grant funds received." He also stated that the Center is focused on providing
more opportunities for children, adults and veterans. Included in Couch's plan for the
Center is adding ceramics, print making, exhibits, and clay making. Councilmember
Holman questioned if Couch saw the additional funds request as a one-time request or
as an on-going request. Couch's reply was, "I would hope that they would be this every
year, but I am going to do my best to bring in new foundations to the Firehouse and
individual donors." Couch does believe that the Center needs to host fund raisers to
gain revenue.
Councilmembers Grant and Holman both showed support in granting the outside
agencies request for additional funding, out of the General Fund for FYE24.
Francisco highlighted the "Critical Vehicle Replacement Report" issued by City of
Norman, Fleet Maintenance Division. This report lists vehicles that are more cost
effective to replace than maintain. In the general governmental area alone, the report
indicates that $10.2 million in fleet are in critical need of replacement. A previous Fleet
study revealed that City of Norman should be spending approximately $6 million/year
replacing vehicles. Francisco stated, "Our full allocation of the 27% for capital outlay is
about $4 million for everything. As a management team we usually allocate about half
of that $4 million toward fleet replacements." Francisco pointed out how few vehicles
would be replaced with this money. With police vehicles clearly qualifying for the use of
seizure & restitution funds, discussion was had regarding using the approximately $1.4
million in this fund to help replace police vehicles. This would help replace
approximately 17 police vehicles; thus, Francisco posed the question to the Finance
Committee: Would you like us to use seizure and restitution money for the replacement
of police vehicles?
Councilmember Holman suggested that seizure and restitution funds be used in a more
diversified way, such as for all vehicles, not just police vehicles; however, City Attorney
Kathryn Walker's legal recommendation was that seizure and restitution funds be used
for police & law enforcement purposes due to the direct source of the funds and the law
becoming less clear when moving away from the police & law expenditures. The topic
of spending seizure and restitution funds on police vehicles will be presented to City
Council for further discussion at the time the City Manager’s proposed budget is
presented to the Council.
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Items submitted for the record:
1. Fiscal Year 2024 Budget Report – Critical Fleet Replacement List
2. CONTINUED DISCUSSION REGARDING FLOCK SAFETY CAMERA SOLUTIONS
FOR THE COMMUNITY.
Major Shattuck with Norman Police Department (NPD) discussed NPD's desire to install
about 10 “Flock” cameras on Norman's main city streets. Shattuck reports that Flock
cameras capture a photograph of the back of all vehicles and vehicle tags as they drive
by. Photographs remain stored in a cloud database that NPD could access for up to 30
days. The Flock camera system would help NPD utilize vehicle descriptions and tag
numbers to help identify and track vehicles reported in a crime, wanted people and or
missing persons. Shattuck states that Flock would not be used to ticket people or raise
revenue. Mayor Heikkila requested that this item be forwarded to City Council for further
discussion before it is considered as a NPD budget item.
3. DISCUSSION REGARDING MONTHLY REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE REPORTS.
Anthony Francisco discussed the Monthly Revenue and Expenditure Reports. He
states that the sales tax is up 5.7% for March and the sales tax for the Public Safety,
Norman Forward, and Transit Funds are all up as well.
Mayor Heikkila asked about the timing and funding for moving Fire Station 5. Francisco
stated that the timing and funding relate to when the City pays off the existing debt for
the existing radio system and the Emergency Communications Operations Center,
which is about 3.5 years from now. Francisco stated that if Council wanted to identify
some other sources of funding for this debt they could do so, noting that the General
Fund balance is in excess of the mandated reserve.
Concerned about the line maintenance budget, Councilmember Grant requested a
report on the City's monthly and year-to-date costs for water line repairs.
Items submitted for the record:
1. Monthly Revenue and Expenditure Reports
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Heikkila adjourned the meeting at approximately 5:10 PM.
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Agenda
CITY OF NORMAN, OK
CITY COUNCIL FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING
Municipal Building, Executive Conference Room, 201 West Gray, Norman,
OK 73069
Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 4:00 PM
AGENDA
It is the policy of the City of Norman that no person or groups of persons shall on the grounds of
race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, age, place of birth, sex, sexual orientation, gender
identity or expression, familial status, marital status, including marriage to a person of the same
sex, disability, retaliation, or genetic information, be excluded from participation in, be denied the
benefits of, or otherwise subjected to discrimination in employment activities or in all programs,
services, or activities administered by the City, its recipients, sub-recipients, and contractors. In
the event of any comments, complaints, modifications, accommodations, alternative formats,
and auxiliary aids and services regarding accessibility or inclusion, please contact the ADA
Technician at 405-366-5424, Relay Service: 711. To better serve you, five (5) business days'
advance notice is preferred.
CALL TO ORDER
AGENDA ITEMS
1. DISCUSSION REGARDING THE FYE 2024 CITY OF NORMAN BUDGET.
2. CONTINUED DISCUSSION REGARDING FLOCK SAFETY CAMERA SOLUTIONS
FOR THE COMMUNITY.
3. DISCUSSION REGARDING MONTHLY REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE REPORTS.
ADJOURNMENT
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