City Council Oversight Committee Meeting
Regular MeetingNorman, OK · February 8, 2024
Minutes
CITY OF NORMAN, OK
CITY COUNCIL OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEETING
Municipal Building, Executive Conference Room, 201 West Gray, Norman,
OK 73069
Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 4:00 PM
MINUTES
The City Council Oversight Committee of the City of Norman, Cleveland County, State of
Oklahoma, met in Regular Session in the Executive Conference Room on the 8th day of February
2024, at 4:00 p.m. and notice of the agenda was posted at 4:00 p.m., and notice and agenda of
the meeting was posted at the Municipal Building at 201 West Gray and the City website at least
24 hours prior to the beginning of the meeting.
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Schueler called the meeting to order at 4:00 p.m.
PRESENT
Councilmember Ward 2 Lauren Schueler (Chair)
Councilmember Ward 3 Bree Montoya
Councilmember Ward 7 Stephen Holman
ABSENT
Councilmember Ward 1 Austin Ball
OTHERS PRESENT:
Councilmember Ward 4 Helen Grant
Ms. Kathryn Walker, City Attorney
Mr. Anthony Purinton, Assistant City Attorney
Mr. Scott Sturtz, Interim Public Works Director
Mr. Taylor Johnson, Transit and Parking Program Manager
Ms. Shaakira Calnick, Internal Auditor
Ms. April Dosier, Food and Shelter Director
Ms. Lisa Webb, Admin Tech IV, City Clerk
Ms. Sandra Simeroth, Admin Tech III, City Clerk Office
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AGENDA ITEMS
ITEM 1: EMERGENCY SHELTER UPDATE
Ms. April Dosier, Food and Shelter Director, presented the Emergency Shelter report statistics
for January 2024 and let the committee know that 17 people, all women, were turned away after
6 pm the previous night due to reaching capacity limits.
Two people moved from A Friend’s House to permanent housing
Two people received bus tickets and went to be with family and resources.
During the January cold winter event, no “friends” were lost outside in the freezing temperatures.
Food and Shelter moved approximately 80 people with animals into motels and had 40 people
sleeping inside the day shelter. The need is great for more overnight capacity for people with
animals.
The 2023 Shelter report reflects the change to allow guests to save their bed from night to night.
This has reduced the all-day gathering line for a bed and has helped guests to feel secure
enough to use their day more productively and work without worrying about where they will sleep
that night. This change in practice has allowed the case management team to do more in-depth
work helping people get IDs, birth certificates and other documents needed for housing,
employment, benefits, etc.
In 2023, the shelter saw 17,869 stays for 441 unique guests. 56 of the 441 guests were able to
obtain permanent housing either through various programs or resources on their own.
173 Women
262 Men
204 were between age 31-50
110 were between age 51-61
35 were Veterans
Councilmember Holman asked how many people have gone on to be housed while staying at
the shelter, how many veterans and/or disabled are currently staying in the shelter and who
provides bus tickets for guests back to family and/or friends for support.
Ms. Dosier said over 100 guests obtained permanent housing the first year. At least 50% of the
guests have some type of disability, 25% have jobs or some other kind of income. Food and
Shelter funds 100% of the bus program.
Councilmember Grant asked about the number of women of domestic violence reported. Ms.
Dosier said when the women’s domestic violence shelter is full, A Friend’s House is the second
referral. Domestic abuse is the primary reason women experience homelessness.
Councilmember Montoya asked how they are tracking the women and handling their needs in
order to determine if someone is progressing towards self-sufficiency. Ms. Dosier says they
define supportive services as everything that is not the bed they sleep in. Person specific case
management is done and steps taken to network the guests in meeting the needs to move them
forward.
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ITEM 1: (continued) EMERGENCY SHELTER UPDATE
Chairman Schueler asked how many of the guests are in need of supportive housing, like the
cottages and/or other affordable housing options. Ms. Dosier said, of the 52 quests at the shelter
last night, approximately 50% are in need of permanent, supportive housing to be successful.
Food and Shelter has cottages and some multi-family apartment complexes used for supportive
housing that total about 70 units. There is a major need for more affordable housing units to
address chronic homelessness, while a lot of the homeless need supportive housing because
they cannot make it on their own due to physical or mental disabilities.
Chairman Schueler asked about transportation for the homeless population. Ms. Dosier said
that transportation is not a huge issue at this time as Care-A-Vans or the public transit system
can get the people from the overnight shelter and take them to one of three day shelters in
Norman: Community Mental Health “HUB”, Food and Shelter or Women’s Sanctuary.
Councilmember Grant asked about the need for interim housing. Ms. Dosier said their housing
options are not considered temporary housing as people get in and stay until they move to
permanent housing. Councilmember Grant asked about transportation for education purposes
to, which Ms. Dosier said there are a couple of students that stay in the cottages and Food and
Shelter has had to work out transportation for them.
Councilmember Montoya asked, on a scale of 1-10, based on the needs and the gaps, how
many partners are helping to meet the needs, are more for profit community partners needed to
step up to meet the need. Ms. Dosier said a lot of people have a heart and desire to see this
problem get addressed, while ten agencies are doing the work. More case managers are
needed too, there are amazing programs doing great work, but more capacity and funding is
necessary to assist the number of homeless in the area.
Councilmember Grant said she has come across mental health workers who all say rent
assistance has pretty much dried up. Ms. Dosier said prevention of homelessness is much less
expensive than housing the homeless. Councilmember Grant asked about additional ARPA
funding being available to assist with this program. Ms. Dosier said that COVID was good for
social service programs, but now the entire county gets $200,000 funds from the Oklahoma
Department of Commerce.
Councilmember Holman said he understands that the majority of the funds coming into Food
and Shelter is 85% privately funded, with the City contribution being a small percentage of the
funds to operate the program.
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ITEM 2: DISCUSSION REGARDING THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR THE
MOBILE CRISIS UNIT.
Mr. Anthony Purinton, Assistant City Attorney, presented information on the Mobile Crisis
Response Unit. The September 2020 Social Services Task Force final report recommended
expansion to the hours of operation for the Central Oklahoma for Community Mental Health
Center (COCMHC) Mobile Crisis Unit.
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TEM 2: (continued) DISCUSSION REGARDING THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR
THE MOBILE CRISIS UNIT
Mobile Crisis means the provision of crisis intervention services by at least one professional at
the location of a consumer who is not at the treatment facility (e.g., consumer’s home, etc.)
The Mobile Crisis Unit (MCU) is used for Crisis Diversion, Crisis Intervention, or Crisis
Stabilization when a person’s mental health needs cannot be met over the phone (“988” hotline)
and provides services in an environment most accessible by the individual (e.g., home, school).
“988” is the 24/7 hotline that connects callers with trained health professionals or the local
Mobile Crisis Unit to respond to crisis in person when needed and is geared towards individuals
seeking assistance.
The “988”, voluntary services program was rolled out in Oklahoma the Summer of 2022. Council
appropriated approximately $1.3 million for the creation of the Norman program in the FYE 22
Budget. 92% of the funds were spent or re-appropriated for other uses, leaving a remaining
balance of $119,000.
Central Oklahoma for Community Mental Health Center (COCMHC), has been in operation prior
to the “988” service and both McClain and Cleveland County “988” services are housed in
Norman. “988” calls are routed to a Mental Health Professional (MHP) in the callers area based
on their area code. If a MHP is needed, the COCMHC will contact the dispatch center, (based
out of Arizona) and they will dispatch a unit. Both of the above procedures protect the privacy
of the callers.
Red Rock Behavioral Health Services will be opening a Certified Community Behavioral Health
Clinic (CCBHC) facility in Norman, (timeline unknown), which will also support a Mental Health
Unit (MCU) response. Red Rock is not limited to “988” calls, but can take calls directly from
community members who call the specified number that goes directly to Red Rock and their
team.
“988” is a voluntary service and the individual must call the center for help. The Police
Department can provide the information and the tools to call COCMHC while the individual is in
custody. Dispatch is equipped to route calls directly to “988” without dispatching an officer.
This program needs to be thought of as a Police-Mental Health Collaboration involving
Emergency Services, Behavioral Health Providers, Community Members.
There are four types of Mobile Crisis Models that Norman can design their program on.
Crisis Intervention Team (CIT) – Officer Only – fully trained officers respond to calls with
a Mental Health component. Norman Police Department currently has this program in
place and regularly provides CIT training to officers. Least preferred option by Clients
and does not offer follow up.
Behavioral Health Team - Civilian Only Team – teams consisting of mental health
professionals responding to mental health calls. Response time of the Mental Crisis
Unit (MCU) can be long, based on urban or rural location. Most preferred by clients,
avoids interaction with Police, unless absolutely necessary. COCMHC Service is
currently providing this model in Norman.
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ITEM 2: (continued) DISCUSSION REGARDING THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR THE
MOBILE CRISIS UNIT
Co-Response – Civilian-Officer – mixed team of Law Enforcement Officers and Mental
Health Professionals who respond to mental health calls. Option most preferred by
clients and families, with a faster response time.
Case Management Team – This team follows up after the crisis situation, with person
who recently interacted with law enforcement or emergency services. This is the least
commonly offered option in Oklahoma.
Potential solutions for the City of Norman would be to leverage current services offered in
Norman, with more intentional support and collaboration or expansion of current mobile crisis
services available through a new City program/contract.
OPTION #1: Utilize transit van for use by an existing Mobile Crisis Unit (MCU). Least
expensive option, easily implemented, uses the van and increases effectiveness of
service in Norman.
OPTION # 2: Contract with a mental health provider to provide MCU services (Civilian
or Co-Response model). The yearly cost is significant depending on level of service
provided, but potentially gives the highest impact to meet needs. Requires a lot of front
end work to design the program.
OPTION # 3: Strengthen partnerships with current MCU providers. Leverage
partnerships to provide more services. Limited costs if any, with medium-high impact for
needs. Norman is already expanding relationships with “988” through call diversion
policies and procedures. This option does not duplicate services and allows existing
van to be used for program leverage.
Alternatives: Things to Consider:
Short/long term goals for Norman
Expected volume of calls/referrals
Service gaps
What types of calls wanting to address (higher risk, lower risk, both)
Goals of Mobile Crisis Programs the Council is wanting to address.
Short Term Goals
Stabilization of individual experiencing crisis
Connection to resources
Follow-up care and long-term care
Long Term Goals
Reduce unnecessary hospitalizations
Reduce Law Enforcement contact and/or arrests
Increase effectiveness when Police Department responds.
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Mr. Purinton asked for feedback on what goals or needs the committee has for the MCU.
Councilmember Holman said he visualized a service that an individual person or a business
owner can call other than the police. The “988” program will meet this need, through the crisis
unit staff assessing the needs and providing the appropriate intervention.
Chairman Schueler said she feels this is a lot of information to digest and would like more time
to review it and discuss further as a committee to determine the best option before moving
forward.
Councilmember Grant asked if they went with Option 3, to strengthen partnerships with current
MCU providers, could the van be used to transport homeless people back to their place of
residence prior to their stay in a mental health facility in Norman or people discharged from the
Norman or Cleveland County jail so they will not become homeless in Norman.
Chairman Schueler asked what option Mr. Purinton would recommend based on his research
and he replied Option 3. Chairman Schueler asked Mr. Purinton to look into Option 3 more and
provide additional information for committee consideration before moving forward with formal
documents.
Chairman Schueler agreed it would be best to discuss more before moving forward with an RFP,
etc. and allow the committee to build a more robust program.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 5:38 p.m.
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Agenda
CITY OF NORMAN, OK
CITY COUNCIL OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEETING
Municipal Building, Executive Conference Room, 201 West Gray, Norman,
OK 73069
Thursday, February 08, 2024 at 4:00 PM
AGENDA
It is the policy of the City of Norman that no person or groups of persons shall on the grounds of
race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, age, place of birth, sex, sexual orientation, gender
identity or expression, familial status, marital status, including marriage to a person of the same
sex, disability, relation, or genetic information, be excluded from participation in, be denied the
benefits of, or otherwise subjected to discrimination in employment activities or in all programs,
services, or activities administered by the City, its recipients, sub-recipients, and contractors. In
the event of any comments, complaints, modifications, accommodations, alternative formats,
and auxiliary aids and services regarding accessibility or inclusion, please contact the ADA
Technician at 405-366-5446, Relay Service: 711. To better serve you, five (5) business days'
advance notice is preferred.
CALL TO ORDER
AGENDA ITEMS
1. EMERGENCY SHELTER UPDATE.
2. DISCUSSION REGARDING THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR THE MOBILE
CRISIS UNIT.
ADJOURNMENT
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