City Council Special Meeting
Special MeetingNorman, OK · August 1, 2023
Minutes
CITY OF NORMAN, OK
CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
Municipal Building, Executive Conference Room, 201 West Gray, Norman,
OK73069
Tuesday, August 01, 2023 at 5:30 PM
MINUTES
It is the policy of the City of Norman that no person or groups of persons shall on the grounds of
race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, age, place of birth, sex, sexual orientation, gender
identity or expression, familial status, marital status, including marriage to a person of the same
sex, disability, relation, or genetic information, be excluded from participation in, be denied the
benefits of, or otherwise subjected to discrimination in employment activities or in all programs,
services, or activities administered by the City, its recipients, sub-recipients, and contractors. In
the event of any comments, complaints, modifications, accommodations, alternative formats,
and auxiliary aids and services regarding accessibility or inclusion, please contact the ADA
Technician at 405-366-5446, Relay Service: 711. To better serve you, five (5) business days'
advance notice is preferred.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Heikkila called the Meeting to Order at 5:30 p.m.
PRESENT
Mayor Larry Heikkila
Council member Ward 1 Austin Ball
Council member Ward 2 Lauren Schueler
Council member Ward 3 Bree Montoya
Council member Ward 4 Helen Grant
Council member Ward 5 Michael Nash
Council member Ward 7 Stephen Holman
Council member Ward 8 Matthew Peacock
ABSENT
Councilmember Ward 6 Elizabeth Foreman
AGENDA ITEMS
1. CONSIDERATION OF ADJOURNING INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AS
AUTHORIZED BY OKLAHOMA STATUTES, TITLE 25 § 307(8)(3) IN ORDER TO
DISCUSS THE APPRAISAL AND ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED
GENERALLY WEST OF 12TH AVE NE, SOUTH OF ROCK CREEK ROAD AND
NORTH OF ALAMEDA, AS WELL AS REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SE
CORNER OF 24TH AVE NE AND ROBINSON, ALL IN NORMAN.
Motion made by Councilmember Ward 8 Peacock, Seconded by Councilmember
Ward 2 Schueler.
CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING -Tuesday, August 01, 2023 Page 11
Item 1, continued:
Voting Yea: Mayor Heikkila, Councilmember Ward 1 Ball, Councilmember Ward 2
Schueler, Councilmember Ward 3 Montoya, Councilmember Ward 4 Grant,
Council member Ward 5 Nash, Council member Ward 7 Holman
The City Council adjourned into Executive Session at 5:32 p.m. Mr. Darrel Pyle, City
Manager, Ms. Kathryn Walker, City Attorney; Mr. Anthony Francisco, Director of
Finance; Mr. Jason Olson, Director of Parks and Recreation; and Ms. Emily Pomeroy
and Ms. Lisa Harden with the Center for Economic Development Law, were in
attendance at the Executive Session.
Motion made by Councilmember Ward 8 Peacock, Seconded by Councilmember
Ward 4 Grant.
Voting Yea: Mayor Heikkila, Councilmember Ward 1 Ball, Councilmember Ward 2
Schueler, Councilmember Ward 3 Montoya, Councilmember Ward 4 Grant,
Councilmember Ward 5 Nash, Councilmember Ward 7 Holman
The Executive Session was adjourned out of and the Special Session was reconvened
at 6:25 p.m.
The appraisal and acquisition of real property located generally west of 12th Avenue
N.E. south of Rock Creek Road and north of Alameda Street as well as real property
located at the southeast comer of 24th Avenue N. E. and Robinson Street, all in Norman
was discussed. No action was taken and no votes were cast.
*****
2. DISCUSSION REGARDING HOUSE BILLS 2903 AND 2904 PROVIDING POSSIBLE
FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS.
Mr. Darrel Pyle, City Manager, said prior to discovery of House Bills 2903 and 2904,
Staff was approached by some Parent Teacher Association (PTA) members asking
what they needed to do to get more School Resource Officers (SRO's). There are 17
elementary schools that do not have SROs and although funding is a big part of this
program, staffing is a much bigger part of the program. He said the Norman Police
Department (NPD) ls expected to be fully staffed by January and adding 17 more
officers could be a three year process, which is not an immediate solution. He said
Mayor Heikkila discovered a House Bill had been signed into law that creates a pilot
project for the State of Oklahoma for a $50 million three year pilot program for safety in
schools. He said approximately $98,000 will be distributed per school district per year
for three years and the State Department of Education (SDE) said they are taking
administrative costs right off the top leaving $90,000 per year per school district for three
years. He said $90,000 is a little less than the cost of one SRO and NPS is recognizing
they want to use that funding for additional SRO efforts and the School Districts are the
recipients of the dollars in those House Bills. He said Texas Legislature approved a bill
for an SRO and armed security personnel in every school in the State of Texas.
CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING -Tuesday, August 01, 2023 Page 12
Item 2, continued:
Mr. Pyle said the pilot project tells which way legislatures are leaning towards and there
is also a Federal conversation taking place about making SRO's mandatory nationwide.
He said momentum is shifting towards school safety although it would be better if that
came with more funding, but Staff is bringing this to Council's attention for input. He
said it would cost $100,000 per SRO and with 17 elementary schools needing an SRO,
it becomes unsustainable over time. He said this is not an overnight fix and it will be
years in the making, but it starts with that first step and what that direction looks like.
He said the SOE will have application procedures in place by Friday, August 4, 2023.
Mr. Pyle said NPS wants seasoned officers in the schools because of things the officers
are situationally aware of and there is a path for NPS to help meet earlier staffing needs
in expansion of services through the Sheriff's Office. He said in the long term, NPS
wants to expand its relationship with the City, but the thought that NPS could help pay
half for 17 officers is not realistic.
Councilmember Schueler asked how the City would handle a possible mandate and
Mr. Kevin Foster, Police Chief, said the program would be phased in, i.e., four officers
per year going forward until the City has the 17 SRO's. He said the City still has four
SRO's required in the Public Safety Sales Tax (PSST) so that could be the first four
SRO's and the City would move forward from there. He said he will be talking to the
County Sheriff's Office to see if they are going to place officers in schools and if the
officers are going to be security guards or actual SRO's.
Councilmember Schueler said this is an extra layer of work for NPD, but she prefers
Norman Officers be elevated into these positions. Mayor Heikkila agreed and said it is
good management of the Sheriff to be helping the City in this step so the City can move
forward without having to take 17 officers from NPD. Chief Foster said there is a huge
push for SRO's, but they are going to have to be phased in.
Councilmember Holman said he is concerned about the financial ability to add one SRO
for each school even looking years down the road and if NPS is not able to contribute
at all to the program is there other precedent of other cities paying for the security of a
public school entity?. Mr. Pyle said depending on how the pilot program morphs and
whether or not federal legislation actually comes into play there is a lot of potential paths
to follow. He said the three year pilot window happens to end about the time the debt
service is paid off in PSST, which frees up approximately $2 million per year.
Ms. Kathryn Walker, City Attorney, said State Legislation set up a revolving fund in
anticipation of other funding from the Federal Government so all grants and other
monies received from the State and Federal Governments for school security projects
and SRO's will be going into this revolving fund. She believes there is an intent for a
longer term program and all the money within the revolving fund would have to be spent
on maintaining the SRO Program or security enhancements for the schools.
CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING - Tuesday, August 01, 2023 Page 13
Item 2, continued:
Mr. Pyle said the Public Safety Study is currently in the Request for Proposal (RFP)
stage, but he believes there will be a recommendation for more officers especially with
the University of Oklahoma (OU) changing over to the Southeast Conference (SEC).
He said PTA parents believe the best approach is to have uniform support at all schools.
Councilmember Peacock asked if the City has the ability to run an academy geared just
for SRO's because there will be a Statewide hiring bonanza on SRO's and it would be
great to get ahead of the curve to get the best of the best. Chief Foster said he is
thinking that someone would go through the academy, work in the streets for a period
of time, then going to SRO training to be placed in a school.
Councilmember Schueler said she would like officers currently on Staff to be elevated
into a SRO position due to training and experience. She would rather have experienced,
seasoned officers protecting the schools.
Mr. Pyle said NPS would like to have a police car parked at every school and that would
be a great use of surplus vehicles as well as a visual deterrent. He said NPS would be
responsible for maintenance of the vehicles.
Councilmember Grant asked what happens after three years if the State does not
continue the program and Mr. Pyle said no one knows the answer to that, but it would
be very difficult to go backwards and take SRO's out of schools. He said if the City
moves forward with the program, it would just be a new way of business going forward.
Mr. Pyle said NPD is working with the Sheriffs Office to see how quickly things could
happen and City Staff will have more information for Council next week and seek
direction.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 6:57 p.m.
ATTEST:
Mayor
CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING -Tuesday, August 01, 2023 Page 14
Agenda
CITY OF NORMAN, OK
CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
Municipal Building, Executive Conference Room, 201 West Gray, Norman,
OK 73069
Tuesday, August 01, 2023 at 5:30 PM
AGENDA
It is the policy of the City of Norman that no person or groups of persons shall on the grounds of
race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, age, place of birth, sex, sexual orientation, gender
identity or expression, familial status, marital status, including marriage to a person of the same
sex, disability, relation, or genetic information, be excluded from participation in, be denied the
benefits of, or otherwise subjected to discrimination in employment activities or in all programs,
services, or activities administered by the City, its recipients, sub-recipients, and contractors. In
the event of any comments, complaints, modifications, accommodations, alternative formats,
and auxiliary aids and services regarding accessibility or inclusion, please contact the ADA
Technician at 405-366-5424, Relay Service: 711. To better serve you, five (5) business days'
advance notice is preferred.
CALL TO ORDER
AGENDA ITEMS
1. CONSIDERATION OF ADJOURNING INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AS
AUTHORIZED BY OKLAHOMA STATUTES, TITLE 25 § 307(B)(3) IN ORDER TO
DISCUSS THE APPRAISAL AND ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED
GENERALLY WEST OF 12TH AVE NE, SOUTH OF ROCK CREEK ROAD AND
NORTH OF ALAMEDA, AS WELL AS REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SE
CORNER OF 24TH AVE NE AND ROBINSON, ALL IN NORMAN.
INFORMATION: Pursuant to 25 § 307(B)(3), a public body is permitted to conduct
an executive session to discuss the appraisal and acquisition of real property.
Thereupon, this item is submitted for City Council’s consideration.
ACTION NEEDED: 1. Motion to adjourn out of the Special Session and convene
into an Executive Session in order to discuss the appraisal and acquisition of real
property located generally west of 12th Avenue NE, South of Rock Creek Road
and North of Alameda, as well as real property located at the SE Corner of 24th
Avenue NE and Robinson, all in Norman.
ACTION TAKEN:
________________________________________________________
ACTION NEEDED: 2. Motion to adjourn out of the Executive Session and
reconvene the Special Session.
ACTION TAKEN:
________________________________________________________
CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING - Tuesday, August 01, 2023 Page |1
2. DISCUSSION REGARDING HOUSE BILLS 2903 AND 2904 PROVIDING POSSIBLE
FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS.
ADJOURNMENT
CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING - Tuesday, August 01, 2023 Page |2
Get email alerts for Norman
A daily email when new agendas and minutes are posted.