Norman Forward Senior Center Ad Hoc Advisory Group Meeting
Regular MeetingNorman, OK · September 17, 2019
Minutes
Norman Forward Senior Center
Ad Hoc Advisory Group
September 17, 2019
The Norman Forward Senior Center Ad Hoc Advisory Group of the City of Norman, Cleveland
County, State of Oklahoma, met in the Municipal Building City Council Chambers on the 17th
day of September, 2019 at 6:03 p.m. and notice and agenda of the meeting were posted at 201
West Gray Street, 24 hours prior to the beginning of the meeting.
ITEM 1, being:
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Present: Chairperson Hobson and Members Bailey, Bonner, Jewell,
Knudsen, Vaughn and Ex-Officio Wright
Absent: Member Terry
Staff Present: Jud Foster, Director of Parks and Recreation, Jason Olsen,
Recreation Superintendent, Sandi Lasseter Senior Center
Supervisor, Randy Hill, ADG, Bill Clifford, BRS, Craig Bousk, BRS,
John Semtner, FSB, Fred Schmidt, FSB, Isaac Hines, FBS, and
Karla Sitton, Administrative Technician IV
ITEM 2, being:
REVIEW OF MINUTES SEPTEMER 4, 2019 MEETING
Member Vaughn made the motion seconded by Member Jewell to approve the minutes. The vote
was taken with the following results:
YEAH: Chairperson Hobson and Members Bailey, Bonner, Jewell,
Knudsen, Vaughn and Ex-Officio Wright
NAY: None
ITEM 3, being:
SURVEY DISCUSSION/SUB-COMMITTEE REPORT
Mr. John Semtner, FSB, introduced the project team and provided the project background. He
provided a map depicting the Norman Wellness Center site and said it will be constructed in the
southwest corner of Reaves Park. Mr. Semtner said there will be three public meetings, an on-
line survey, comment cards distributed in Norman, and a community discovery in order to gain
public input for the Wellness Center. He said public outreach is very important and said the
public meeting comment cards will include program options, allow for write in program spaces,
program space comment exercise, use at open houses and intercept events, allow write in
comments on the back, and it matches the on-line version survey. The preliminary schedule for
Public Meeting is as follows: Wednesday, September 18th, Wednesday, October 30th, and Tuesday,
December 3rd. The survey opens on September 23, 2019, and closes October 25, 2019 and the
project team will compile the survey results prior to the October 30th Ad Hoc Committee
Meeting/Workshop #3 in order for them to be reviewed and discussed. A presentation will be
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given to the Park Board on December 5th, to the City Council at a Study Session on December
17th, and will be an agenda item on January 14th for Council consideration.
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ITEM 4, being:
COMMUNITY CULTURE DISCUSSION
Mr. Craig Bousk, BRS, provided pictures of existing active adult spaces to include lounges for
social gathering, board games, coffee bars, and reading. He said a Wellness Center can include a
community room/events hall that can be utilized as community rooms, catering kitchen, wedding
receptions, large scale exercising rooms, retirement parties, and performance areas. Mr. Bousk
said kitchens and food prep areas can be utilized as teaching kitchens, commercial kitchens, break
room, multi-use connections, and food prep/warming areas. The Wellness Center can also include
classrooms for meetings, special functions, small conferences, or be an overflow community room.
Mr. Bousk said arts and craft rooms are very common in Wellness Centers and can be both dry
and wet room, used for club/organization rooms, and spaces for learning or playing. Billiard room
can be constructed and used for pool tables and table tennis. Multi-activity gymnasiums can also
be built for pickleball, basketball, chair volleyball, and large fitness classes. Mr. Bousk said indoor
running/walking tracks can also be constructed and shared with the gymnasium, as well as
weight rooms and cardiovascular equipment areas. He said aerobics, dance, and group exercise
rooms can be included in Wellness Centers for adult programs, yoga, and stretching. Mr. Bousk
said pools are common in Wellness Centers and can be utilized for fitness swim, aqua aerobics,
learning to swim and competitive swim. He said pools can be warm water and utilized aquatic
therapy, current channel swim (water walking), water aerobics, specialty access and have aquatic
massage benches. Some water areas can include a water spa/Jacuzzi with hot water and massage
jets.
Mr. Bousk said Wellness Centers have begun constructing senior health services to include on
site health screenings, physical therapy, exam rooms, massage rooms, pedicure/manicure areas,
and such services can be paired with health provider partnerships.
Mr. Bousk showed some Wellness Centers that BSK have designed to include Brighton, Colorado,
South Lake, Texas, West Lafayette, Indiana, and Thornton, Colorado. He said the Wellness
Centers are designed to “fit the communities” they are constructed in and the materials, design,
and décor are very apparent when visiting them.
Mr. Montgomery Johnston, concerned citizen, felt physical therapy is one of the biggest issues for
seniors and a Wellness Center needed to include a salt water pool. Mr. Paul Arcavoli, concerned
citizen, asked how online survey duplication will be avoided and Mr. Bill Clifford, BRS, said the
survey will only accept one user online I.D. Mr. Arcavoli said there are 17,000+ seniors in Norman
and this design process needed to reach out to all of them. He said he had gathered addresses of
all Norman citizens that are 55+ and older and felt that the City needed to do a letter mailing to
each of them. Mr. Arcavoli said he distributed a 16 question survey to the Ad Hoc Group before
tonight’s meeting as well as draft letter that can be mailed out to Norman citizens that are 55+
and older.
Mr. Dave Boeck, concerned citizen, asked whether showers and/or locker rooms be included in the
design because they are not on the survey. Mr. Clifford said even though they are not listed on
the survey, showers/locker rooms will be included near the pool and/or gym, if those areas are
determined to be part of the design. Mr. Boeck asked what the “hill” is on the survey and
Mr. Clifford explained it was brought to their attention that was wanted to be included on the
survey. Mr. Johnston said the hill was an idea of his and explained a hill could be constructed to
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allow exercise stations to be placed sporadically as citizens go up to a sitting area at the top.
Mr. Clifford said BLS will try to get all additional comment to the online survey; however, they
may not be added to the comment cards before the Public Meeting scheduled tomorrow night. He
said there is a $6 million budget for construction of a wellness center and tonight is not a
guarantee of construction areas and the estimated costs that go with them. Mr. Clifford said for
example, pool spaces are generally more expensive than other areas of the wellness centers, etc.
He said hard costs will include construction fees while soft costs include permit fees, design
consultant fees, etc. Mr. Boeck said it needs to be clarified whether or not everything wanted in
the wellness center will be able to be done and whether or not it will be done in phases. Mr. Bousk
said the design teams love to build these type of building projects and typically the design starts
out really big at the beginning of a process such as this and challenged the participants to think
about program areas that can be utilized as multi-use spaces. He said actionable things that
participants can do as part of their outreach include thinking about their desired outcome(s) for
the Design Phase and some of the key goals include cost, accessibility, etc.
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ITEM 5, being:
PROGRAMMING EXERCISE (CARD GAME)
Mr. Bousk said the people attending tonight will be asked to participate in a couple of exercises.
He said there are boards lined up against the wall asking five separate questions. He said post-
it notes will be given out and asked each participant to put their answers to each question on the
applicable boards. The five questions will assist in a possible “theme” and design for the Wellness
Center. The five questions included:
1. How do you describe where you live when you are away from Norman?
2. What places or events must visitors experience when they are here in Norman?
3. Why do you live in Norman?
4. How do you want to be perceived as a community?
5. How do you not want to be perceived as a community?
Mr. Bousk said the design teams have several cards of rooms/spaces that could be constructed in
the Norman Wellness Center. He said people in attendance tonight will break up into two
separate groups and use the cards, which include size and estimated costs, to “design” a wellness
center while keeping within the $6 million budget. Mr. Bousk said this will help the design team
learn from them (Norman citizens) what is wanted and prioritized in a wellness center.
Mr. Bousk said participants will be asked to do another programming exercise called Dotocracy,
at tomorrow night’s Public Meeting, stating each participant will be given seven (7) dots (stickers)
and they can place a dot on what programming/activities they would most like to see at the
Norman Wellness Center. He said there will be different programming spaces taped to the back
windows/walls to include: kitchen area(s), pool area(s), gymnasium area(s), community spaces
and game areas, arts and craft rooms, and adult lounge areas. This exercise will help the design
team begin to see what the participants envision in a Wellness Center and assist the design of a
wellness center to be unique and/or special to Norman.
The participants broke into two groups and began the “card game.”
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ITEM 6, being:
MISCELLANEOUS DISCUSSION
None.
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ITEM 7, being
ADJOURNMENT
Member Jewell made the motion seconded by Member Knudsen to adjourn. The vote was taken
with the following results:
YEAH: Chairperson Hobson and Members Bailey, Bonner, Jewell, Knudsen, Vaughn
and Ex-Officio Wright
NAY: None
Passed and approved this ____________of ________________________ 2019
Gale Hobson, Chairperson
Agenda
NORMAN FORWARD SENIOR CENTER
AD HOC ADVISORY GROUP
AND PUBLIC INPUT MEETING
MUNICIPAL BUILDING CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
201 WEST GRAY, NORMAN, OK
Tuesday, September 17, 2019
6:00 P.M.
1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
2. REVIEW OF MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 4, 2019
a. Action item: Motion to approve minutes
3. SURVEY DISCUSSION/SUB-COMMITTEE REPORT
4. COMMUNITY CULTURE DISCUSSION
5. PROGRAMMING EXERCISE (CARD GAME)
6. MISCELLANEOUS DISCUSSION
7. ADJOURNMENT
a. Action item: Motion to adjourn
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