Planning Commission Meeting
Regular MeetingNorman, OK · April 13, 2023
Minutes
CITY OF NORMAN, OK
PLANN!NG COMMISSION MEETING
Municipal Building, Council Chambers, 201 West Gray, Norman, OK 73069
Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 6:30 PM
MINUTES
The Planning Commission of the City of Norman, Cleveland County, State of Oklahoma, met in
Regular Session in Council Chambers of the Norman Municipal Building, 201 West Gray Street,
on the 13th day of April, 2023.
Notice and agenda of the meeting were posted at the Norman Municipal Building and online at
https://norman-ok.municodemeelnqE-eem at least twe nty-four hours prior to the beginning of the
meeting.
Chair Erica Bird called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT
Cameron Brewer
Steven McDaniel
Liz McKown
Kevan Parker
Erica Bird
Doug McClure
Jim Grifflth
Maria Kindel
Michael Jablonski
A quorum was present.
STAFF PRESENT
Jane Hudson, Director, Planning & Community Development
Lora Hoggatt, Planning Services Manager
Melissa Navarro, Planner I
Colton Wayman, Planner I
Anais Starr, Planner ll
Jack Burdeft, Subdivision Development Coordinator
David Riesland, Transportation Engineer
Beth Muckala, Assistant City Attorney
Bryce Holland, Multimedia Specialist
Ron6 Tromble, Admin. Tech. lV
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CONSENT ITEMS
Motion made by McKown, Seconded by Jablonski, to remove ltem 2 from the Consent Docket
for the purpose of postponement.
Voting Yea: Brewer, McDaniel, McKown, Parker, Bird, McClure, Griffith, Kindel, Jablonski
The motion carried by a vote of 9-0.
Minutes
1 . Consideration of Approval, Reiection, Amendment, and/or Poslponemenl of the Minutes
of the March 9,2023 Regular Planning Commission meeting.
Motion made by McDaniel, Seconded by Parker, to approve the Minutes of the March
9,2023 Regular Planning Commission meeting as presented.
Voting Yea: Brewer, McDaniel, McKown, Parker, Bird, McClure, Griffith, Kindel,
Jablonski
The motion carried by a vote of 9-0.
Short Form Plats
2. Consideration of Aooroval. Acceptance. Re te ction Amendment and/or Pos toonement
of SFP-2223-2: Consideration of a Short Form Plat submitted by David Armstrong
(Delta Surveying Co.) for THE CAREY ADDITION for 1.905 acres of property generally
located at the southeast corner of lmhoff Road and Classen Boulevard.
Motion made by Parker, Seconded by Kindel, to postpone SFP-2223-2 to the May 11,
2023 Planning Commission meeting.
Voting Yea: Brewer, McDaniel, McKown, Parker, Bird, McClure, Griffith, Kindel,
Jablonski
The motion carried by a vote of 9-0.
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NON.CONSENT ITEMS
NORMAN 2025 and General ComrssialzanEs
3. Consideration of Aop val. Acceotance. Reiection. Amendment. and/or P ostoonement
of Resolution No. R-2223-109: Plant Life , L.L.C. requests amendment of the NORMAN
2025 Land Use & Transportation Plan to remove Special Planning Area 1 (SPA-1),
retaining Commercial Designation, for 0.53 acres of property located at 2516 Briggs
Street.
ITEMS SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD:
1. NORMAN 2025Map
2. Staff Report
Consideration of Aooroval. Acceotance. Re iecti on Amendme nt. and/or Postoonement
of Ordinance o. 0-2223-28: P lant Life, L.L.C. requests rezoning from R-1, Single
Family Dwelling District, to C-2, General Commercial District for 0.53 acres of property
located at2516 Briggs Street.
ITEMS SUBMITTED FOR THE REGORD:
'l .
Location Map
2. Staff Report
3. Site Plan
PRESENTATION BY STAFF: Mr. Wayman reviewed the staff report, a copy of which
is filed with the minutes.
Mr. Jablonski asked why SPA-1 had a requirement for all the property to be under one
ownership before it could be developed. Mr. Wayman did not know.
PRESENTATION BY THE APPLIGANT: The applicant, Stephen Lewis, 501 Manor Hill
Court, did not have a presentation, but was available to answer questions.
Ms. Kindel asked about the green space. Mr. Lewis responded that everything other
than the building and pad will be landscapedriven. lt will not be a nursery. They will
install a tree line in the front.
Mr. Parker asked if everything will be stored inside. Mr. Lewis responded affirmatively
Ms. Bird asked if they considered a PUD, which would be more specific to the use. Mr.
Lewis responded that a PUD was suggested, but they already had the papenarork filled
out for C-2. He noted that there is not sewer service to the site.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION: None
DISCUSSION AND ACTION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION:
Mr. Brewer thinks the use is fine, but rezoning to C-2 opens it up for potential future
concerns. Ms. Bird added it is nice to see something that has been a vacant piece of
land have some use along the highway.
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Motion made by McDaniel, Seconded by Brewer, to recommend adoption of Resolution
No. R-2223-109 and Ordinance No. 0-2223-28 to City Council.
Voting Yea: Brewer, McDaniel, McKown, Parker, Bird, McClure, Griffith, Kindel,
Jablonski
The motion carried by a vote of 9-0
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SPUD Zoninq and Prelin0lllamflat
Consideration of Aporoval. Acceptance, Re ection Am endment. and/or Postoonement
of Ordinance N o. 0-2223-29: CA McCa rty Construction, L.L.C. requests rezoning from
R-1 , Single Family Dwelling District, to SPUD, Simple Planned Unit Development, for
1 .04 acres of property located at 1309 S. Berry Road.
ITEMS SUBMITTED FOR THE REGORD:
1 .
Location Map
2. Staff Report
3. SPUD Narrative with Exhibits A-C
4. Preliminary Site Development Plan
b. Consideration of Aooroval. Acceotance. Re te ction Amendment and/or Pos toonement
ot PP-2223-6: Consideration of a Preliminary Plat submitted by CA McCarty
Construction, L.L.C. (Arc Engineering Consultants, L.L.C.) for McCOOP ABODE
ADDITION for 1.04 acres of property located at 1309 S. Berry Road.
ITEMS SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD:
'1
.
Location Map
2. Staff Report
3. Transportation lmpacts
4. Preliminary Plat
5. Preliminary Site Development Plan
PRESENTATION BY STAFF: Ms. Navarro reviewed the staff report, a copy of which
is filed with the minutes.
PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT:
Gunner Joyce, Rieger Law Group, representing the application, presented the project
Mr. Parker asked whether the driveway will be shared. Mr. Joyce said there will be a
shared access easement filed with the plat.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION: None
DISCUSSION AND ACTION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION:
Mr. Parker commented that he does not see any issues with this layout based on the
frontage issue. Mr. Jablonski agreed. Mr. Brewer thinks it is a creative way to get two
units on the site. Ms. Bird spoke in support of the project.
Motion made by McKown, Seconded by Griffith, to recommend adoption of Ordinance
No. 0-2223-29 and PP-2223-6, the Preliminary Plat for McCOOP ABODE ADDITION,
to City Council.
Voting Yea: Brewer, McDaniel, McKown, Parker, Bird, McClure, Griffith, Kindel,
Jablonski
The motion carried by a vote of 9-0.
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Center Citv PUD Amendment
7. Consideration of Approval. Acceptance, R on . Ame n dment. and/or Postoonement
of Ordinance No. 0-2223-30: J FORD, L.L.C. requests amendment of the CCPUD
approved in0-2021-23 for 0.16 acres of property generally located at 231 W. Main
Street, to allow for specific tenant signage and modify landscaping.
Motion made by McKown, Seconded by Brewer, to allow Erica Bird to be recused on
this item.
Voting Yea: Brewer, McDaniel, McKown, Parker, Bird, McClure, Griffith, Kindel,
Jablonski
The motion to allow recusal passed by a vote of 9-0. Ms. Bird turned control of the
meeting over to Vice Chair Parker and vacated the room.
ITEMS SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD:
1. Location Map
2. Staff Report
3. SPUD Narrative with Exhibits A-E
PRESENTATION BY STAFF: Ms. Starr reviewed the staff report, a copy of which is
filed with the minutes.
Ms. McKown asked who will be responsible for maintaining the planters. Ms. Starr
responded they will not be in the City right-of-way, so it will be the tenants or property
owners.
Mr. Brewer asked for clarification of the sign placement. Ms. Starr responded.
PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT:
Gunner Joyce, Rieger Law Group, representing the applicant, presented the project. No
protests were received on this application.
Mr. Jablonski asked the plan if and when the old brick house falls down. Mr. Joyce
responded and cited Section lll(Bx2) of the CCPUD.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION: None
DISCUSSION AND ACTION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION:
Mr. Jablonski asked if there are any concerns with the signage proposed at the top of
the 2nd floor. None were voiced.
Motion made by Brewer, Seconded by McDaniel, to recommend adoption of Ordinance
No. 0-2223-30 to City Council.
Voting Yea: Brewer, McDaniel, McKown, Parker, McClure, Griffith, Kindel, Jablonski
The motion carried by a vote of 8-0.
Ms. Bird resumed her seat and control of the meeting.
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SPUD Zoninq
8. Consideration of Aooroval. Acceotance. Re te ction Amendment. and/or Postoonement
of Ordinance No. 0-2223-33: Midwa y Grocery, lnc. requests rezoning from C-1, Local
Commercial District, to SPUD, Simple Planned Unit Development, for 0.234 acres of
property generally located at 601 W. Eufaula Street.
ITEMS SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD:
1. Location Map
2. Staff Report
3. SPUD Narrative
PRESENTATION BY STAFF: Mr. Wayman reviewed the staff report, a copy of which
is filed with the minutes. Supports of 13.9% and protests of 45% within the notification
area have been received.
Mr. Brewer asked for an example of the maximum sound under the noise ordinance.
Mr. Wayman did not have that information.
Ms. Kindel asked if there would be a setback requirement for the stage. Mr. Wayman
responded that they would be able to place it generally where it is proposed on the site
plan in the PUD.
Mr. Jablonski asked if any large trees would have to be removed for the stage. Mr.
Wayman did not believe any trees would be removed.
Mr. Parker asked what items in the SPUD are outside of the existing C-1 zoning. Mr.
Wayman responded outdoor catered events.
PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT:
Hal Ezzell, 100 48th Avenue N.W., representing the applicant, presented the project.
Ms. Kindel asked questions pertaining to the size of the current and proposed stage,
and the hours of operation. Bob Thompson, 2838 Misty Ridge Drive, addressed the
future stage. Mr. Ezzell addressed the hours. Mr. Thompson explained they have been
running events from 7:00 or 7:30 p.m. until 9:00 p.m. There were some times when it
was very hot, so they pushed it back to 7:30 so there would be shade on the stage. He
would like to have the ability to adjust to situations like that.
Mr. Jablonski asked how late commercial activity can take place. Mr. Thompson
responded that he didn't know of any restriction.
Mr. McClure asked whether Midway has ever been cited for noise_ Mr. Thompson said
they have not. Mr. McClure asked about any parking issues. Mr. Thompson responded.
Ms. McKown asked about a timeline for moving from a temporary stage to a more
permanent stage. Mr. Thompson responded that they plan to continue using the stage
they have now.
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Mr. Parker asked about frequency of events if the SPUD is approved. Mr. Thompson
discussed staffing and the frequency of events. Friday, Saturday and Sunday are
typically when people want to schedule events.
Mr. Griffith suggested including the location of the speakers in the SPUD that would
create the least amount of noise intrusion into the neighborhood. Mr. Thompson
responded. They don't want to commit solutions that have not been tested to an
ordinance. They will probably want to put up a big fence, which is one of the most
effective things they can do.
Ms. Kindel asked if there was a pattern to the calls to the police. Mr. Thompson
responded and outlined things they have done to work with the neighbor. He also
addressed the trees - there is a 'l2O year old pecan tree and an 80 year old oak tree,
which are the first two legacy trees in Norman, so they will not be cut down.
Ms. Bird outlined some of the common areas of concern in the protest letters: hours,
occupancy, and frequency. Mr. Ezzell responded. Ms. Bird asked what occupancy
would be allowed by the City. Mr. Thompson responded that there is an occupancy of
42 allowed inside; there are approximately 50 chairs outside.
Ms. McKown asked, if someone wanted to rent the space and have 150 guests, what
the response would be. Mr. Thompson responded.
Ms. Kindel asked if they would be opposed to amending the SPUD to state 75 guests
and no more than 3 days a week. Mr. Thompson responded that he anticipates City
Council is going to have some requests like that and they are prepared to work with
them as this goes forward. Mr. Ezzell stated they would be willing to include a maximum
of 3 days per week. Mr. Thompson would prefer 100 guests.
Mr. Brewer asked whether any number included in the SPUD would be addressing only
outside guests, or both inside and outside.
Recess 8:14 to 8:20 p.m.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION:
Dan Munson, 208 Waterfront Drive - spoke regarding Strong Towns as it would relate
to this proposal, and in support of the application.
Odette Horton, 318 College Avenue - spoke in opposition to the application.
Kim Zahller, 304 Chautauqua Avenue - spoke regarding parking issues, and in
opposition to the application.
Ruth Walker, 524 W. Comanche Street - spoke regarding noise, and in opposition to
the application.
Ken Womack, 511 W. Eufaula Street - spoke in opposition to the application, citing foot
and vehicular traffic, security issues, and parking problems.
Rick Poland, 425 Chautauqua Avenue - spoke in opposition to the application.
Dana Anderson, 306 Chautauqua Avenue - s poke in opposition to the a pplication
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Chuck Anderson, 306 and 207 Chautauqua Avenue - provided copies of a photo, and
spoke in opposition to the proposal.
Austin Brewer, 204 Chautauqua Avenue - spoke in support of the application.
Ben Alpers, 208 Chautauqua Avenue - spoke in opposition to the application, citing
noise issues and neighborhood conflict.
Karin Schutjer, 208 Chautauqua Avenue - spoke regarding neighborhood balance, and
in opposition to the proposal.
Jayne Crumpley,423 Elm Avenue - spoke in opposition to the application, particularly
parking issues, and about the availability of restroom facilities for the events.
Tara Myers, 205 Chautauqua Avenue - stated they don't mind the music at the Midway,
but the proximity to their bedroom window makes the situation weird; they would
probably support the application with some parameters established.
DISCUSSION AND ACTION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION:
Ms. McKown raised the issue of parking enforcement on weekends.
Mr. Jablonski asked what recourse the neighbors have if the City won't measure the
noise level. Mr. McClure referred to an incident in his neighborhood where the police
shut down a loud party following a call.
Mr. Brewer spoke regarding the location of his home in the neighborhood and the
number of events they can hear. The City needs to make enforcement of the noise
ordinance a priority. The proposal tightens up the zoning on the site, and preserves the
site. Concessions need to be made, but not at this meeting.
Mr.Jablonski believes this is an unusual case, most SPUDs want all possible uses. This
is preserving something that has been in the neighborhood for a long time. We want
infill development, walkable cities, restaurants we can walk to, entertainment we can
walk to and that comes with growing pains. Maybe we need to change the noise
ordinance levels for neighborhoods with live entertainment. Maybe we need to change
how we enforce parking and on weekends. The noise concerns are valid.
Mr. Parker suggested requiring 50 parking spaces as part of the SPUD. Ms. Bird
commented there was something similar with The Noun hotel where they had an
agreement with the church.
Ms. Kindel commented that with each of the past events that have been held, the
applicant could have taken steps to address some ofthe issues, such as parking; there
are not enough specifics in the proposal to go from 7 events to unlimited events.
Mr. Brewer agreed there needs to be a parking solution, but off-site parking with a
required number of spaces is not the solution; street parking is adequate and is rarely
an issue. Parking on both sides of the street so an ambulance can't get through is a
problem.
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Ms. Bird asked if the Commission wanted to add any parameters. Mr. Jablonski
suggested that the elected officials should make the decision on additional parameters.
Motion made by Brewer, Seconded by Jablonski, to recommend adoption of Ordinance
No. O-2223-33, with the comment that additional considerations should be decided upon
with City Council as part of approval.
Mr. Parker commented that the Planning Commission is called to represent everybody,
not just business interests. The applicant has said they're willing to look at other
parameters; allow that opportunity first for the Commission to consider. Ms. Kindel
agreed.
Mr. Griffith would like to see the zoning changed to SPUD to preserve Midway because
of its historic importance to the neighborhood, but he would have a difficult time
supporting the outdoor entertainment as proposed. He would support a postponement
to flesh out some of the details.
Voting Yea: Brewer, McDaniel, McKown, Bird, McClure, Jablonski
Voting Nay: Parker, Griffith, Kindel
The motion carried by a vote of 6-3.
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Ms. Hudson noted that applications for the upcoming committee for the Comprehensive Plan
are still open. There is an application on the City website if anybody is interested in serving on
that committee.
Mr. Jablonski suggested the City consider a two{iered noise ordinance which would address
live music in neighborhoods.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business and no objection, the meeting ad u at 9:43 p.m.
PI ann M ISSI
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Agenda
CITY OF NORMAN, OK
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Municipal Building, Council Chambers, 201 West Gray, Norman, OK 73069
Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 6:30 PM
AGENDA
It is the policy of the City of Norman that no person or groups of persons shall on the grounds of
race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, age, place of birth, sex, sexual orientation, gender
identity or expression, familial status, marital status, including marriage to a person of the same
sex, disability, retaliation, or genetic information, be excluded from participation in, be denied the
benefits of, or otherwise subjected to discrimination in employment activities or in all programs,
services, or activities administered by the City, its recipients, sub-recipients, and contractors. In
the event of any comments, complaints, modifications, accommodations, alternative formats,
and auxiliary aids and services regarding accessibility or inclusion, please contact the ADA
Technician at 405-366-5424, Relay Service: 711. To better serve you, five (5) business days'
advance notice is preferred.
NOTICE: The requested rezoning items appearing on this Planning Commission Agenda were
filed by the applicant at least 30 days ago. Legal notice for each rezoning item was published in
The Norman Transcript and mailed to each property owner of record within a minimum of 350
feet of each rezoning request.
Planning Commission will hold a public hearing on these items tonight, and each item upon
which action is taken will be forwarded to the City Council with a recommendation. It should be
recognized that the Planning Commission is a recommendatory body and that the City Council
may, or may not, concur with the Planning Commission’s recommendation. Therefore, it is
important to note that all items forwarded by the Planning Commission will be introduced and
heard at a subsequent City Council meeting.
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Planning Commissioners: Cameron Brewer, Steven McDaniel, Liz McKown, Kevan
Parker, Erica Bird, Doug McClure, Jim Griffith, Maria Kindel, Michael Jablonski
ROLL CALL
CONSENT ITEMS
This section is placed on the agenda so that the Planning Commission, by unanimous consent,
may designate those items that they wish to approve by one motion. Any of these items may be
removed from the Consent Docket and be heard in its regular order.
Minutes
1. Consideration of Approval, Rejection, Amendment, and/or Postponement of the Minutes
of the March 9, 2023 Regular Planning Commission meeting.
Short Form Plats
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2. Consideration of Approval, Acceptance, Rejection, Amendment, and/or Postponement
of SFP-2223-2: Consideration of a Short Form Plat submitted by David Armstrong
(Delta Surveying Co.) for THE CAREY ADDITION for 1.905 acres of property generally
located at the southeast corner of Imhoff Road and Classen Boulevard.
NON-CONSENT ITEMS
NORMAN 2025 and General Commercial Zoning
3. Consideration of Approval, Acceptance, Rejection, Amendment, and/or Postponement
of Resolution No. R-2223-109: Plant Life, L.L.C. requests amendment of the NORMAN
2025 Land Use & Transportation Plan to remove Special Planning Area 1 (SPA-1),
retaining Commercial Designation, for 0.53 acres of property located at 2516 Briggs
Street.
4. Consideration of Approval, Acceptance, Rejection, Amendment, and/or Postponement
of Ordinance No. O-2223-28: Plant Life, L.L.C. requests rezoning from R-1, Single
Family Dwelling District, to C-2, General Commercial District for 0.53 acres of property
located at 2516 Briggs Street.
SPUD Zoning and Preliminary Plat
5. Consideration of Approval, Acceptance, Rejection, Amendment, and/or Postponement
of Ordinance No. O-2223-29: CA McCarty Construction, L.L.C. requests rezoning from
R-1, Single Family Dwelling District, to SPUD, Simple Planned Unit Development, for
1.04 acres of property located at 1309 S. Berry Road.
6. Consideration of Approval, Acceptance, Rejection, Amendment, and/or Postponement
of PP-2223-6: Consideration of a Preliminary Plat submitted by CA McCarty
Construction, L.L.C. (Arc Engineering Consultants, L.L.C.) for McCOOP ABODE
ADDITION for 1.04 acres of property located at 1309 S. Berry Road.
Center City PUD Amendment
7. Consideration of Approval, Acceptance, Rejection, Amendment, and/or Postponement
of Ordinance No. O-2223-30: J FORD, L.L.C. requests amendment of the CCPUD
approved in O-2021-23 for 0.16 acres of property generally located at 231 W. Main
Street, to allow for specific tenant signage and for more efficient drainage.
SPUD Zoning
8. Consideration of Approval, Acceptance, Rejection, Amendment, and/or Postponement
of Ordinance No. O-2223-33: Midway Grocery, Inc. requests rezoning from C-1, Local
Commercial District, to SPUD, Simple Planned Unit Development, for 0.234 acres of
property generally located at 601 W. Eufaula Street.
MISCELLANEOUS COMMENTS OF PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF
ADJOURNMENT
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