Charter Revision Commission
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · September 11, 2014
Minutes
CHARTER REVISION COMMISSION
September 11, 2014, 6:30PM
City Hall, Room 335
100 Broadway, Norwich, CT
I. Call to Order: Chairman L. King called the meeting to order at 6:30 PM.
II. Roll Call:
Members present: Chairman Les King, Linda Becker, Michael Gualtieri, Debra
Dickey, Janis Sawicki, Arthur Lathrop, Richard Podurgiel
Members Absent: None
Others Present: David Crabbe, Peter Nystrom
III.Communications: The following communications were reviewed and motions
made to be accepted and discussed under new business below:
a. 2014-08-01 Baker resignation: Motion Commissioner Podurgiel, 2nd
Commissioner Gualtieri, motion carried unanimously.
b. 2014-07-30 Wisneski letter: Motion Commissioner Podurgiel, 2nd
Commissioner Dickey, motion carried unanimously.
c. 2014-07-21 Scandariato web submission: Motion Commissioner Becker, 2nd
Commissioner Dickey, motion carried unanimously.
d. 2014-07-02 Loose resignation: Motion Commissioner Sawicki, 2nd
Commissioner Gualtieri, motion carried unanimously.
IV. Approval of Minutes from July 10, 2014: Motion to accept as presented,
Commissioner Gualtieri, 2nd Commissioner Dickey, motion carried 5-2 with
Commissioner Podurgiel and Commissioner Lathrop abstaining.
V. New Business:
a. Introduction of new members: Chairman King went around the table and asked
everyone to introduce themselves and give a brief background.
b. Motion to accept the resignation of Kent Baker with regrets,
Commissioner Becker, 2nd Commissioner Sawicki, motion carried
unanimously.
c. Chairman King pointed out that the Wisneski letter is not a Charter Revision
Commission issue. Motion to forward the communication to the City Manager for
response and send a letter to Mr. Wisneski stating such, Commissioner
Lathrop, 2nd Commissioner Podurgiel, motion carried unanimously.
d. Motion to put the Scandariato communication in the file to be discussed
with the one city tax, Commissioner Podurgiel 2nd Commissioner Dickey,
motion carried unanimously.
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e. Motion to accept Leland Loose resignation with regrets, Commissioner
Lathrop, 2nd Commissioner Gualtieri, motion carried unanimously.
VI. Old Business:
a. Zoldaz request: Motion that this issue not be taken up by the Commission,
Commissioner Podurgiel, 2nd Commissioner Becker, discussion followed.
Commissioner Lathrop spoke about the positive aspects of having the
Council approve the budget. Commissioner Dickey spoke about multiple
referendums that can result from voter approval of budgets. Chairman King
agrees with this position. Motion carried unanimously.
b. Ring request: Commissioner Gualtieri asked what the job of the Treasurer is.
Commissioner Lathrop and Commissioner Podurgiel gave information on the
role of the Treasurer. Motion that this issue not be taken up by the
Commission, Commissioner Lathrop, 2nd Commissioner Gualtieri, motion
carried unanimously.
c. BOE letter: No action needs to be taken at this point; letter will be put in file for
later discussion.
d. Discussion of 2014-06-12 presentations by the BOE and Registrar: The Board
of Education discussed term lengths and how long it takes new members get up to
speed. They have requested that the term lengths be changed from two to four years,
staggered. RP pointed out that they are still going to have to consider the council
member term length extension. Commissioner Lathrop is concerned that many of the
items that they have been asked to consider involve a diminishment of the
democratic process. He sees a larger issue here than any one thing. He is not as
concerned about the BOE as he is about the City Council term lengths and he feels it is a
very important issue for the Commission to consider. He also pointed out that
frequent elections allow for voter reaction to current issues. Commissioner
Sawicki feels that as far as the BOE is concerned; there are so many mandates that
come down from Hartford that it takes constant work to keep up with them
and it is foolish to have BOE elections every two years. Commissioner Dickey also
pointed out the complexity of the Norwich School system. The BOE term lengths and
Council term lengths are two separate issues. Motion that the terms for the BOE
be extended to four years, staggered terms Commissioner Dickey, 2nd
Commissioner Sawicki, motion carried 6-1 with Commissioner Lathrop
opposing.
Commission Dickey feels that a four year term for Registrars would be beneficial
as it is a very complex, responsible job. Chairman King commented that it is very
difficult for Registrars to set up processes with two year terms. Motion that the
Registrar of Voters terms be extended to four years, not staggered,
Commissioner Becker, 2nd Commissioner Gualtieri, motion carried
unanimously.
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e. Becker research on absentee voting: Chairman King stated that proxy voting
cannot be allowed unless it is in the by-laws. Commissioner Becker stated that
Robert's Rules do state that if it is established from the outset of the Commission's
establishment it can be allowed, but it should not be an issue with this Commission
as it is a small membership and members are almost always in attendance. The
Commission will not allow absentee voting; members must be present to vote.
VII. Form an Agenda for Next Meeting:
a. Raising council bonding threshold to a percent of the adopted budget:
Commissioner Lathrop pointed out that at the last Charter Revision referendum,
the only issue that failed was increasing the bonding threshold.
b. Tying the capital budget to a percentage of the operating budget:
Presenters to be asked to attend to discuss the above: City Manager, Comptroller,
Mayor, Bond Counsel, Dick Thiverge
c. Discussion on City Council pay/stipends
d. Meeting frequency
Motion to suspend the rules to add discussion of and possible action on City
Council term length extension from two to four year staggered terms,
Commissioner Becker, 2nd Commissioner Dickey, motion carried
unanimously. Commission Lathrop feels that the suggestions coming from the
Council were colored by recent events that had occurred at the time. He feels that two
year terms allow for timely public reaction to current issues. The only excuse for the
Mayor having a four year term is the charge of economic development which takes a
continuous, articulated effort and vision which is better achieved with a four year term.
Commissioner Podurgiel understands that two years is a short period of time for
someone to get up to speed on government operations. However, he agrees with
Commission Lathrop that the issue is accountability and performance. The public can
vote on the record of members and he agrees with retaining a two year term length.
Commissioner Gualtieri agrees that the voters' response to the budget can be
expressed through their vote for council every two years. Commissioner Dickey
agrees that people need to work to get themselves up to speed and if they put in the
work it can be done in two years. Motion that city council term lengths remain at
two years, Commissioner Becker, 2nd Commissioner Dickey, motion carried
unanimously.
VIII. Comments by Commissioners: Commissioner Lathrop recommends that everyone
read the April 2000 report by the Charter Revision Commission. Commissioner
Podurgiel suggests getting input from the Corporation Counsel. Commissioner
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Dickey suggested also revising for typographical and grammatical errors.
Commissioner Podurgiel is not sure there will be time to address all of these
issues. Chairman King feels that the referendum questions should be kept to a
minimum or the voters will just vote no.
IX. Adjournment: Motion to adjourn, Commissioner Dickey, 2nd Commissioner
Podurgiel, motion carried unanimously, meeting adjourned at 8:00 PM.
Agenda
CHARTER REVISION COMMISSION
September 11, 2014
Location: City Hall Room 335
100 Broadway, Norwich, CT
6:30PM
AGENDA
I. CALL TO ORDER
II. ROLL CALL
III. COMMUNICATIONS
a. 2014-08-01 Kent Baker letter of resignation
b. 2014-07-30 Wisneski letter
c. 2014-07-21 Scandariato web submission
d. 2014-07-02 Leland Loose letter of resignation
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
a. July 10, 2014
V. NEW BUSINESS
a. Introduction of new members sworn in on September 5, 2014.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
a. Deborah Zoladz requesting to have the voters be able to approve the budget.
b. Kenneth Ring requesting that the Treasurer office be removed from an elective office
and have the City Council select the individual as Treasurer as a cost saving measure.
c. 2014-06-16 Board of Education letter
d. Discuss presentations from June 12, 2014 meeting, (Board of Education, Registrar
of Voters)
e. Linda Becker research on absentee voting
VII. FORM AN AGENDA FOR NEXT MEETING
VIII. COMMENTS BY COMMISSIONERS
IX. ADJOURNMENT
Next meeting date: October 9, 2014
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