Commission on the City Plan
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · November 20, 2012
Minutes
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MINUTES
COMMISSION ON THE CITY PLAN
Tuesday, November 20, 2012 – 7:00 P.M.
100 BROADWAY, NORWICH CONNECTICUT
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
REGULAR MEETING
AGENDA ITEMS A, B & C – CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL, DETERMINATION OF
QUORUM:
Ralph Page called the meeting to order at 7:00 pm.
Commission Members Present: Ralph Page, Arthur Sharron, P. Michael Lahan, Frank
Manfredi, & John Mathieu. A quorum was present.
Absent: Les King (recused – due to absence at last months meeting)
Also Present: Peter Davis, Director and Jacquie Barbarossa, Recording Secretary
D. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES:
Upon motion by Art Sharron and second by John Mathieu, the Commission voted
unanimously to APPROVE the minutes of the October 16, 2012 Regular Meeting
E. COMMUNICATIONS:
Mr. Davis stated he had received 5 items after last months hearing and will enter them as
exhibits.
F. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. SP #12-03 - Clairmont Ave. – Assessor’s Map 102, Block 5, Lot 74 . Application
of Jillian Corbin for St. Joseph’s Polish Roman Catholic Congregation –- under
Sec. 8.1.2 (b) religious and eleemosynary use by non-profit. Site is located in
MF Zone and owned by St. Joseph’s Polish Roman Catholic Congregation.
Ralph page opened the hearing for rebuttal and Mr. Davis entered the following exhibits:
BB - Letter/Case Law Packet from Attorney McCoy received 11-6-12
CC - Letter/Case Law Packet from Attorney Bates received 11-15-12
DD - Legal Opinion from Attorney Zizka received 11-19-12
EE - Comments from Mark Gagne received 11-20-12
FF - Comments from Brian Kobylarz received 11-20-12
Mr. Davis stated that staff was charged with obtaining legal opinion regarding the special
permit application and had received hard copy on Monday (November 19, 2012) which was
forwarded to the Commission members. He gave a brief synopsis stating that in the opinion
of Attorney Zizka, the Commission does have the right to review the religious use in
accordance with special permit criteria under section 17.2.3, character, traffic and future
development.
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Ralph Page stated rebuttal representation would be allowed for applicant then for
opposition.
Attorney Timothy Bates from Robinson Cole spoke on behalf of St. Vincent de Paul Place
handed out exhibit “GG” Memo Regarding Temporary Permit allowing use of 1st floor and
basement area. He stated he wanted to address the use of the upper floor for the Food
Pantry. Attorney Bates stated that a zoning permit had been issued for the basement area
and that St. Vincent De Paul had appealed to the State (Persons with Disabilities) for a
waiver to use the 1st floor for food pantry. He stated they had received a temporary waiver
from the State for the use of the 1st floor.
Attorney Bates handed out exhibit “HH” – Memo re: Neighborhood Complaints which
contained minutes from the Public Safety Commission stating the complaints were anecdotal
in nature and there was no evidence of an increase in police call rates for the area.
Attorney Bates handed out exhibit “II” Memo re: Plan of Conservation and Development. He
stated that 2 witnesses had referred to the land use objective and that relocation violated the
POCD. Attorney Bates stated that the relocation advances the objective of the POCD by
lessening the non-commercial use in the Chelsea Central District.
Jillian Corbin, Executive Director of St. Vincent De Paul Place handed out exhibit “JJ” which
was published in the Norwich Bulletin stating they would work with the community allowing
parish events to continue at the site. She also stated they were committed to working with
the neighbors regarding their complaints and would remain active with the Police and Public
Safety Commission.
Attorney Bates referred to Attorney Zizka’s letter regarding imposing substantial burden on a
religious entity and asked Bill Russell the Diocese’s CFO to speak on behalf of the applicant.
Mr. Russell handed out exhibit “KK” - Statement on Real Estate Activities which gave a
history of other locations and feasibility of current site concluding the site was based more on
circumstance than preference.
Attorney Bates handed out exhibit “LL” regarding religious use under the First Amendment
stating this is a religious use in a former religious school.
Father Nicholas Delemond spoke on behalf of the applicant.
Father Tadeusz Zadorozny submitted exhibit “MM” stating the mission of St. Vincent De Paul
Place.
Attorney Bates summarized the special permit criteria stating there was no change to the
physical character, there would be less traffic and it is a permitted use established by the
church and part of its mission.
There were no questions from the Commission.
Brian Kobylarz, resident of 16 Hobart Ave. spoke on behalf of opposition entering exhibit
“”NN”. He asked that misrepresented and false testimony be stricken from the record. He
stated he was not prepared to comment on alternative locations as entered by Bill Russell.
He referred to map included in exhibit which showed a 2/10’s of a mile radius versus the map
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presented by Robert Mercer last month. Mr. Kobylarz stated there are 300 properties in the
radius, 250 which are residential which would be affected by traffic to the location. He also
cited FOI information he had received contradicting statements made by the applicant. Mr.
Kobylarz also stated that Police Chief Fusaro is a board member of St. Vincent de Paul
Place and should have separated himself as a City Employee when giving an opinion letter
to the Commission. He claimed the actions and plans of the church are destroying the
quality of life in the neighborhood.
There were no other speakers and no questions from the Commission. Motion by John
Mathieu to close the hearing, second by Frank Manfredi – unanimous - HEARING CLOSED.
Peter Davis clarified last month’s agenda due to the fact that an audience member miss-
spoke when stating an error was made. Mr. Davis stated that the applicant requested a
waiver of site plan review under 17.1.11 which is why it was on the agenda.
G: OLD BUSINESS:
1. SP #12-03 - Clairmont Ave. – Assessor’s Map 102, Block 5, Lot 74. Appli
cation of Jillian Corbin for St. Joseph’s Polish Roman Catholic
Congregation– under Sec. 8.1.2 (b) religious and eleemosynary use by
non-profit. Site is located in MF Zone and owned by St. Joseph’s Polish
Roman Catholic Congregation. Includes waiver of site plan review under
Sec. 17.1.11
Michael Lahan stated that due to the number of legal opinions handed out at the
Meeting the Commission should have a chance to review it. Motion by Frank
Manfredi to table the decision until the information could be reviewed by the
Commission, seconded by Michael Lahan – unanimous - TABLED
H: NEW BUSINESS: NONE
I: EXTENSIONS: NONE
J: BOND RELEASES: NONE
K: ZONING MATTERS: NONE
M. ADJOURNMENT:
Upon motion by Michael Lahan, and second by Art Sharron, the Commission voted
unanimously to adjourn the meeting at 8:24 pm.
Respectfully submitted,
Jacquie Barbarossa, Recording Secretary
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COMMISSION ON THE CITY PLAN
Tuesday, November 20,2012·7:00 P.M.
100 BROADWAY, NORWICH CONNECTICUT
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
REGULAR MEETING
AGENDA
A. CALL TO ORDER
B. ROLL CALL
C. DETERMINATION OF QUORUM
D. APPROVAL OF October 16, 2012 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES & November
8, 2012 SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES
E. COMMUNICATIONS: TSD
F. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. SP #12·03· Clairmont Ave. - Assessor's Map 102, Block 5, Lot 74.
Application of Jillian Corbin for St. Joseph's Polish Roman Catholic
Congregation -- under Sec. 8.1.2 (b) religious and eleemosynary use by
non-profit. Site is located in MF Zone and owned by st. Joseph's Polish
Roman Catholic Congregation. CONTINUED from 10-16-12
G. OLD BUSINESS:
1. SP #12-03 - Clairmont Ave. - Assessor's Map 102, Block 5, Lot 74.
Application of JUlian Corbin for St. Joseph's Polish Roman Catholic
Congregation- under Sec. 8.1,2 (b) religious and eleemosynary use
by non-profit. Site is located in MF Zone and owned by St. Joseph's
Polish Roman Catholic Congregation. Includes waiver of site plan
review under Sec. 17.1.11
H. NEW BUSINESS: NONE
I. EXTENSIONS: NONE
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