Commission on the City Plan
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · December 18, 2012
Minutes
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MINUTES
COMMISSION ON THE CITY PLAN
Tuesday, December 18, 2012 – 7:00 P.M.
100 BROADWAY, NORWICH CONNECTICUT
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
REGULAR MEETING
AGENDA ITEMS A, B & C – CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL, DETERMINATION OF
QUORUM:
Ralph Page called the meeting to order at 7:00 pm.
Commission Members Present: Ralph Page, Arthur Sharron, P. Michael Lahan, Frank
Manfredi, Les King & John Mathieu. A quorum was present.
Absent: None
Also Present: Peter Davis, Director and Jacquie Barbarossa, Recording Secretary
D. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES:
Upon motion by John Mathieu and second by Art Sharron, the Commission voted
unanimously to APPROVE the minutes of the November 8, 2012 Special Meeting &
November 20, 2012 Regular Meeting.
COMMUNICATIONS: None
Mr. Davis asked for a suspension of rules to take items out of order. He stated since there
were two public hearings on the agenda he requested to take old business first, and then
take a five minute recess to clear the room so the hearings could take place.
Motion by Art Sharron to suspend rules, second by John Mathieu - unanimous.
Les King recused himself from vote since he was absent from the previous testimonies.
F: OLD BUSINESS:
1. SP #12-03 - Clairmont Ave. – Assessor’s Map 102, Block 5, Lot 74. Appli
cation of Jillian Corbin for St. Joseph’s Polish Roman Catholic
Congregation– under Sec. 8.1.2 (b) religious and eleemosynary use by
non-profit. Site is located in MF Zone and owned by St. Joseph’s Polish
Roman Catholic Congregation. Includes waiver of site plan review under
Sec. 17.1.11
Ralph Page asked if there were any questions or comments from the Commission.
Frank Manfredi referred to Attorney Zizka’s letter and the case of the Cambodian
Buddhist Society which was similar to the Soup Kitchen and stated that the
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Commission has the right to act on the request one way or the other.
Motion by Michael Lahan to deny SP #12-03, second by Art Sharron.
Mr. Lahan stated that he was sympathetic to the Diocese’s request but the change of
use from a school to a soup kitchen is not in harmony with the residential district and
the neighbors have been affected due to the number of complaints received. He
stated that Beth Saida and Katie Blair House are examples of social services that
have not affected the neighborhood in a negative way. He felt that vehicular traffic
was not an issue but foot traffic has increased. He stated the current use as a soup
kitchen has caused disruption in the neighborhood, reduced the value of surrounding
properties and is not harmonious to the residential character of the neighborhood.
Frank Manfredi agreed that it was a much needed service but the location was
inappropriate and a much different use than the school. The school was for children
and the soup kitchen is used primarily by adults. He stated the Commission does not
have to guess what will happen in the neighborhood due to the temporary permit that
was granted and the neighbors testimony of what has been happening over the past
months. Neighbors have testified their opinions regarding the negative character and
impacts on value of their properties.
Art Sharron agreed stating that there was a negative impact on the neighborhood and
that property values effects the entire city and it could get worse due to expansion.
John Mathieu agreed with the necessity but the current location would bring down the
value of neighborhood homes where there is pride in ownership.
Ralph Page was concerned about an increase in traffic with the addition of the Food
Pantry which leans towards commercial use. Unanimous - DENIED
E. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. SP#12-04 –200 West Main St. – Assessor’s Map 101, Block 1, Lot 46-
Application of Gary Gross for modification of Certificate of Location under
Sec. 6.2 and repair and sale of autos under Sec. 9.2. Site is located in GC
zone and owned by West Main St. Inc. Includes waiver of site plan review
under Sec. 17.1.11
Peter Davis read in exhibits A-M explaining this was a request for a Certificate of
Location. He stated there was a permit granted in December 1985 from ZBA for
repair but no auto sales and that this current request was under CCP jurisdiction.
Attorney Mark Block from Block, Janney & Pascal spoke on behalf of the applicant.
He reiterated what Peter Davis had stated adding that the original permit was on
behalf of Aamco whose franchise did not allow the sale of cars. Due to the economy
it has become a necessity to bring in additional money to the business. He
stated there would be approximately 10 cars on site for sale with ample parking.
The applicant, Gary Gross stated that business hours would not be changed at the
present time but may add Saturday hours if there was demand. He also stated the
corner of the parking lot was a prime location for the sale of used cars.
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Joanne Philbrick spoke in opposition.
There being no other speakers and no questions from the Commission, the hearing was
closed.
2. SP#12-05 - 71-73 West Main St. – Application of Zachary Tarner under
Sec. 9.6.2 sale of firearms and hunting equipment in existing retail site. Site
is located in WD zone and owned by Thayer Enterprises LLC. Includes
waiver of site plan review under Sec. 17.1.11
Peter Davis read in exhibits A-K stating this was the existing site of Thayer Marine. He
explained that water dependent retail is permitted as-of-right in the Waterfront Development
Zone. He stated the current retail use at the site is all water dependent. Any retail that is not
water dependent in nature, is subject to special permit review. The proposed expansion of
retail is not water dependent in nature.
Speaking in favor was Richard Thayer III who stated Thayer’s Marine wanted to expand their
retail business due to cyclical boat sales and had already applied for State and Federal
permits.
Joanne Philbrick spoke in opposition.
There being no other speakers and no questions from the Commission the hearing was
closed.
G: NEW BUSINESS:
1. SP#12-04 –200 West Main St. – Assessor’s Map 101, Block 1, Lot 46-
Application of Gary Gross for modification of Certificate of Location
under Sec. 6.2 and repair and sale of autos under Sec. 9.2. Site is
located in GC zone and owned by West Main St. Inc. Includes waiver
of site plan review under Sec. 17.1.11
Frank Manfredi made a motion to waive Site Plan, second by Michael Lahan – UNANIMOUS
- WAIVER GRANTED.
Motion by Frank Manfredi to approve SP#12-04, second by Art Sharron – unanimously –
APPROVED
2. SP#12-05 - 71-73 West Main St.– Application of Zachary Tarner under
Sec. 9.6.2 sale of firearms and hunting equipment in existing retail site.
Site is located in WD zone and owned by Thayer Enterprises LLC.
Includes waiver of site plan review under Sec. 17.1.11
Frank Manfredi made a motion to waive Site Plan, second by Art Sharron – UNANIMOUS -
WAIVER GRANTED.
Motion by Michael Lahan to approve SP#12-05, second by Les King – unanimously –
APPROVED
3. SDP #1018 - Soular Boswell, LLC - 553, 557, 565 Boswell Ave -
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construction of 2 additional buildings on existing site with a total of 16 units and
associated site improvements. Site is located in MF zoning district and owned
by applicant.
Peter Davis gave an overview of the site stating that a similar application for phase 1
had been approved by the Commission and was under construction. This was the
2nd phase which needed IWWCC approval which had been granted on December
6th, 2012. He stated the storm water system had been approved by the City Engineer
with minor changes. The site has City water, gas and sewer.
Dick Strouse handed out photos of buildings 1 & 2 that were originally approved in
March of 2012. The City Engineer had reviewed the bond in the amount of
$336,855.
There was brief discussion regarding an existing manhole on site and how drainage
was handled. Mr. Strouse stated there was a separator with 2 stone filters and that
there would be a maintenance schedule on the detention basin.
Peter Davis recommended bond in the amount of $168,000.
Frank Manfredi made a motion to approve SDP 1018 with bond in the amount of $168,000
seconded by Les King – unanimously APPROVED W/CONDITION.
H: EXTENSIONS:
1. SDP 838A – 214 Vergason Ave. Ext. AKA Forestview Dr. – Forest
Land Investments LLC – for the 3rd extension of time to post bond
and file mylars.
Upon motion by Frank Manfredi and second by Art Sharron, the Commission voted
unanimously to GRANT the request for the 3rd extension of time to post bond and file
mylars.
I: BOND RELEASES:
1. SDP 1013 – Norwichtown Commons - 36-40 & 42-44 Town St. –
Request of Norwichtown Commons for partial release of bond in the
amount of $449,300
Art Sharron made a motion for partial release of bond in the amount of $449,300 and to
retain $10,000 for completion of landscaping, seconded by Les King -unanimous- PARTIAL
RELEASE OF BOND.
J: ZONING MATTERS: NONE
K: OTHER BUSINESS:
Peter Davis advised Commission members that their terms were expiring in February of
2013 and asked who wished to continue to serve. All the members agreed to another term.
L. ADJOURNMENT:
Upon motion by Frank Manfredi, and second by Art Sharron, the Commission voted
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unanimously to adjourn the meeting at 8:07 pm.
Respectfully submitted,
Jacquie Barbarossa, Recording Secretary
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Agenda
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COMMISSION ON THE CITY PLAN
Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 7:00 P.M.
100 BROADWAY, NORWICH CONNECTICUT
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
REGULAR MEETING
AGENDA
A. CALL TO ORDER
B. ROLL CALL
C. DETERMINATION OF QUORUM
D. APPROVAL OF November 8, 2012 Special Meeting and November 20, 2012
REGULAR MEETING MINUTES
D. COMMUNICATIONS: TBD
E. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. SP#12-04 – 200 West Main St. – Assessor’s Map 101, Block 1, Lot
46- Application of Gary Gross for modification of Certificate of
Location under Sec. 6.2 and repair and sale of autos under Sec. 9.2.
Site is located in GC zone and owned by West Main St. Inc. Includes
waiver of site plan review under Sec. 17.1.11
2. SP#12-05 - 71-73 West Main St.– Application of Zachary Tarner
under Sec. 9.6.2 sale of firearms and hunting equipment in existing
retail site. Site is located in WD zone and owned by Thayer
Enterprises LLC. Includes waiver of site plan review under Sec.
17.1.11
F. OLD BUSINESS:
1. SP #12-03 - Clairmont Ave. – Assessor’s Map 102, Block 5, Lot 74.A
pplication of Jillian Corbin for St. Joseph’s Polish Roman Catholic
Congregation– under Sec. 8.1.2 (b) religious and eleemosynary use
by non-profit. Site is located in MF Zone and owned by St. Joseph’s
Polish Roman Catholic Congregation. Includes waiver of site plan
review under Sec. 17.1.11 TABLED from 11-20-12
G. NEW BUSINESS:
1. SP#12-04 –2 00 West Main St. – Assessor’s Map 101, Block 1,
Lot 46- Application of Gary Gross for modification of Certificate of
Location under Sec. 6.2 and repair and sale of autos under Sec.
9.2. Site is located in GC zone and owned by West Main St. Inc.
Includes waiver of site plan review under Sec. 17.1.11
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2. SP#12-05 –71-73 West Main St.– Application of Zachary Tarner
under Sec. 9.6.2 sale of firearms and hunting equipment in
existing retail site. Site is located in WD zone and owned by
Thayer Enterprises LLC. Includes waiver of site plan review under
Sec. 17.1.11
3. SDP #1018 - Soular Boswell, LLC - 553, 557, 565 Boswell Ave -
construction of 2 additional buildings on existing site with a total of 16
units and associated site improvements. Site is located in MF zoning
district and owned by applicant.
H. EXTENSIONS:
1. SDP 838A – 214 Vergason Ave. Ext. AKA Fores tview Dr. – Forest
Land Investments LLC – for the 3rd extension of time to post bond
and file mylars.
I. BOND RELEASES:
1. SDP 1013 – Norwichtown Commons - 36-40 & 42-44 Town St. –
Request of Norwichtown Commons for partial release of bond in the
amount of $449,300
J. ZONING MATTERS: NONE
K. OTHER BUSINESS:
M. ADJOURNMENT:
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