Commission on the City Plan
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · December 15, 2020
Minutes
COMMISSION ON THE CITY PLAN
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 15, 2020, 7:00 PM
Virtual/Remote Meeting
NORWICH, CT
REGULAR MEETING
Assistant City Planner Daniel Daniska read information pertaining to virtual meetings and clearly stated that the
meeting, including video, would be recorded.
A. CALL TO ORDER: Vice Chair Les King called the meeting to order at 7:01 PM.
B. ROLL CALL AND SEATING OF ALTERNATES:
Present: Vice Chairman Les King, Jason Courter, Michael Lahan and Swarnjit Singh Bhatia
Absent: Chairman Frank Manfredi and Kathy Warzecha
Others Present: City Planner Deanna Rhodes, Assistant City Planner Dan Daniska, Recording Secretary Melinda
Wilson, Andy Stevens, Jonathan Chappell, Margaret Green, Mathew, Brandon Handfield and Alexander Gebbie
C. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: November 17, 2020 Meeting Minutes
On a motion by Jason Courter, seconded by Michael Lahan, Commission on the City Plan (CCP) unanimously
approved the meeting minutes of the November 17, 2020, as presented.
D. COMMUNICATIONS: City Planner Deanna Rhodes noted there were no communications for this meeting.
E. NEW BUSINESS:
SDP #1041(M2): 2 Westledge Drive. Request for a Modification to the Site Plan approval for SDP #1041(M) to
amend integral instructions #1 & #3 relative to the timing for completion of required recreational amenities.
Application and Property of Westledge Apartments, LLC. Assessor’s Map 117, Block 1, Lot #14, Zone MF.
Brandon Handfield of Yantic River Consulting, engineer for the project, reviewed the progress of the
development. He noted that Alex Gebbie was also in the meeting and able to answer questions. Mr. Handfield
discussed the changes in the planned amenities and potential changes to the construction timeline. There is no
longer a planned dog park. It has been replaced with a pool and pool house. The timeline has changed since
original approval in February 2020. The conditions of approval in February may potentially inhibit the planned
new construction timeline.
Discussion ensued on the references being made to the buildings in the plans versus their order of construction.
In order to facilitate clarity in the discussion, the following was cross reference was ascertained and agreed upon
by all.
Building C was also referred to as Building 1. Building D was also called Building 2. Building A on the plan was
referred to as Building 3 when speaking of the construction phases. Building B was also referenced as Building 4.
Mr. Daniska requested a waiver of reading of his entire memo, as it had been made available to the applicant
and CCP members in advance of the meeting.
Mr. Handfield responded to the recreation director’s comments and agreed on the importance of the
development’s amenities. He noted that recreational spaces would be ready along with the first two built
buildings. This area would be separated from construction of last two buildings. This would allow approximately
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1/2 acre of open space to be available and safely accessible to residents of the first two buildings while
construction of other two buildings occurred. Mr. Handfield also responded positively to the zoning comments
and agreed, on behalf of the applicant, to comply with all safety measures.
Extensive discussion ensued concerning the timing of construction, permitting and availability of amenities to
residents. Mr. Lahan questioned the construction schedule and noted that if they were all being constructed at
the same time, it should be possible that the pool and pool house be open before the occupancy of the third
apartment building. City Planner Deanna Rhodes clarified several items throughout the discussion including
advising the commission that they could approve the modification request, table the application for more
information, deny the request, or ask the applicant whether they would agree to a compromise that would
allow them to get permits to construct the next two buildings but ensure the amenities were a priority to be
constructed and opened for resident’s use before the complex was completed. Alex Gebbie then conceded on
the timeframe for construction of the recreational amenities, including the pool and pool house.
Michael Lahan made a motion to approve SDP #1041(M2) with the following conditions:
Permits may be issued for all buildings, including pool house, however, no Certificate of Occupancy shall
be issued for the third building (A or B) until the pool house, pool, and playground have been completed
and/or issued a Certificate of Occupancy.
All conditions from the previous approval of SDP #1041 and SDP #1041M except for the removal of
condition #16 from the approval of SDP #1041 (10/16/2018) and condition #3 from the approval of SDP
#1041M (02/18/2020) and stated above shall remain in effect and are to be considered part of this
approval.
That the approval of this modification does not extend the previously set timeline from SDP #1041, it will
expire in 5 years from the original approval date 10/16/2018 unless an extension has been granted by the
Commission in accordance with ZR Section 7.5.10.2.
A new zoning permit shall be issued prior to any activities associated with this modified application
commencing on the site.
That any modifications to the approved proposal shall be reviewed by the Zoning Enforcement Officer prior
to occurring and may require additional review and approval by the Commission.
That all proposed improvements associated with this application are to be completed according to the
approved plan prior to the issuance of the required Certificate of Zoning Compliance or a performance
bond will be required in accordance with Sections 7.5.7.3 and 8.9 of the Zoning Regulations.
Reasons: The proposal conforms to Chapter 1.5 and 7.5 of the Zoning Regulations.
Swarnjit Singh Bhatia seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
F. OLD BUSINESS: None
G. EXTENSION REQUESTS: None
H. BOND REDUCTION / RELEASE REQUESTS: None
I. OTHER BUSINESS: Discuss amending subdivision regulations to increase the fee required for open space to
correlate with CT General Statutes
Ms. Rhodes noted that commissioner Kathy Warzecha had raised this issue at the last CCP meeting. She briefly
reviewed the state’s regulations. She suggested tabling the issue for Ms. Warzecha’s attendance for further
discussion. Michael Lahan made a motion to table the discussion of amending subdivision regulations. Jason
Courter seconded. The motion to table passed unanimously.
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J. POCD Plan Implementation Committee (PIC) MEETING UPDATE + REMINDER: 01/13/2021 Virtual Meeting
Ms. Rhodes requested that this meeting be canceled to allow staff adequate time to work on compiling the
comments made by the POCD‐PIC to date. The next regularly scheduled meeting would be April 14, 2021. On a
motion by Jason Courter, seconded by Swarnjit Singh Bhatia, the CCP unanimously canceled the January, 13,
2021 POCD‐PIC meeting.
K. STAFF REPORT: Ms. Rhodes presented pictures of clearing in a recently accepted conservation easement on a
subdivision known as 612 West Thames Street. This potential violation was brought to her attention by an
abutting property owner who was aware of the easement and wondered who was going to clean up the site and
the felled trees. Ms. Rhodes introduced Attorney Mathew Greene, representing the property owner. The
property owner conceded that they had taken down some trees at the end of Trading Cove at the direction of
tree warden but was not aware or responsible for the trees being cut in the easement area.
Ms. Rhodes then introduced Attorney Jonathan Chappell representing Cove View Towers. He mentioned that a
copy of the conservation agreement had not been given to the association nor were markers in place to
designate the easement area. Ms. Rhodes noted that it is not required to let an abutting property owner know
of a conservation easement on an adjacent property as they would have no expectation that a person would
trespass and cut trees on property they do not own. A discussion then ensured and Attorney Chappell stated
that the condominium association believes that the parcel is still under their common ownership bringing the
legality of the subdivision into question.
Jason Courter announced for purposes of full disclosure that he lives on the same street. He also noted that the
area of the parcel where the trees were cut is very steep, and erosion and flooding occur. This is a concern.
Ms. Rhodes stated that the slope needs to be stabilized. Her suggestion, based on the recommendation of the
tree warded, is that a forester be hired to go out to assess the situation. The cost of the forester should not be at
the cost to the city. The value of the trees also need to be taken into consideration. Cove View Towers
condominium association is potentially responsible for a remediation plan.
A discussion then ensued between Staff, members of the Commission and the attorneys about the legal issues
surrounding the subdivision. Attorney Chappell stated he will look into the parcel ownership issue and report
back at the next meeting.
Mathew Lisee spoke for the condominium association. He stated that they will do whatever needs to be done to
rectify the situation.
Ms. Rhodes noted that a snow storm was pending making it difficult any time soon for a forester to determine
the damage to the conservation area.
Michael Lahan made a motion to table the item of trees cut in a conservation easement and 612 West Thames
Street with the conditions that Attorney Chappell look into the parcel ownership issue and Ms. Rhodes handle
getting a forester to assess the situation. Jason Courter seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
L: ADJOURNMENT: On a motion by Michael Lahan, seconded by Jason Courter, the CCP unanimously adjourned
at 8:23 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Melinda Wilson
Recording Secretary
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Agenda
COMMISSION ON THE CITY PLAN
Tuesday, December 15, 2020 - 7:00 P.M.
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A. CALL TO ORDER
B. ROLL CALL AND SEATING OF ALTERNATES
C. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: November 17, 2020
D. COMMUNICATIONS:
E. NEW BUSINESS:
SDP #1041(M2): 2 Westledge Drive. Request for a Modification to the Site Plan approval
for SDP #1041(M) to amend integral instructions #1 & #3 relative to the timing for
completion of required recreational amenities. Application and Property of Westledge
Apartments, LLC. Assessor’s Map 117, Block 1, Lot #14, Zone MF.
F. OLD BUSINESS: None.
G. EXTENSION REQUESTS: None.
H. BOND REDUCTION/RELEASE REQUESTS: None.
I. OTHER BUSINESS: Discuss amending subdivision regulations to increase the fee required for
open space to correlate with CT General Statutes
J. POCD PIC MEETING REMINDER: Reminder – 01/13/2021 Virtual Meeting.
K. STAFF REPORT
L. ADJOURNMENT
Copies: City Clerk’s Office, Clerk of Meeting, P&NS Dept. Wall, Applicant(s), File(s)
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