Commission on the City Plan
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · December 13, 2022
Minutes
COMMISSION ON THE CITY PLAN
Tuesday, December 13, 2022, 7:00 PM
Hybrid Meeting
23 Union Street – Lower Level Conference Room - NORWICH, CT
CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Frank Manfredi called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM.
ROLL CALL AND SEATING OF ALTERNATES:
Present: Chairman Frank Manfredi, Ella Myles (Zoom), and Kathy Warzecha.
Absent: Michael Lahan
Staff Present: Director of Planning and Neighborhood Services Deanna Rhodes and City Planner
Dan Daniska.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: November 15, 2022
On a motion by Ella Myles, seconded by Kathy Warzecha, the CCP approved the minutes.
NEW BUSINESS:
PUBLIC HEARING AND POTENTIAL ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING APPLICATION:
A. SP#22-04/CAM #22-02: 23 Thermos Avenue. (Note Special Permit Number Correction)
Request for a Special Permit for a proposed high rise multi-family development consisting of
two (2) four-story buildings with twenty six (26) units each including lower level parking
garages, a community center with meeting rooms, pool and attached garages, and other site
improvements including drainage, parking lots, sidewalks, landscaping and lighting.
Application of CLA Engineers, Inc. Property of Riverheights Development, Inc. Assessor’s Map
125, Block 1, Lot 1. Zone MF/CAM Overlay
A motion by Kathy Warzecha, seconded by Ella Myles, was made to open the public hearing.
Tom Cummings from CLA Engineering and Michael Franklin from Riverheights Development, Inc.
were there to present for the applicant. City Planner Dan Daniska began by sharing that they did
not receive any additional boards from CLA that they were going to present that night previous
to the meeting, and that he would be unable to show them on the Zoom broadcast. Mr. Daniska
asked that the applicant and their representatives hold them up to the camera so that the public
and commission members attending online could see.
Tom Cummings from CLA presented a board depicting SDP #989, which was the prior approval
on the site from 2009. It shows the existing row of six (6) units that were constructed, with four
(4) now occupied, with the other two (2) being renovated for occupancy. Then there is a series
of concrete foundations behind. He then pointed to the middle of the board and said “the other
four rows up here were never constructed. The land in that area can be characterized as
disturbed, vegetation has been removed, and material has been deposited and removed. The
land that contains the existing condominiums next door has been separated through a lot-line
revision a number of months ago.
Board 2: The site is being done in 2 phases, the first phase is the middle building and the
community center. The upper building is part of phase 2. Deanna Rhodes brought up that CLA
was not clear about how many apartments are in each building and there has been confusion
regarding existing and proposed units. The legal notice had to be corrected regarding the
number of units. The commission only received one set of building plans that don't show the
difference between what the units are. On the plans it looks like the buildings are the same, but
they are not and the commission has not received a second set of plans for the floor plan. The
commission needs a building plan for each building. Frank Manfredi stated that the commission
needs to see what they may or may not approve. Tom Cummings from CLA explained they are
identical in size but not floor plans. The existing condos are not included in the calculations, but
the new community center area is.
Discussion ensued regarding the number of units and floor plans, Dan Daniska stated that the
commission needs better identification of buildings and full floor plan sets for each building
from the CLA, which was missing from their application. A description of the project was not
given. The comments from staff were that they wanted to hear their presentation although
there are things that have not been met. Deanna Rhodes stated that staff wanted to open the
public hearing because notification had been made to abutters, and they have the opportunity
to make comments this evening, but the application is not complete at this time and the
Commission should not make a decision until the materials are submitted. The Commission
allowed the applicant to continue their presentation, but the discussion will continue until
January because of the missing information.
Tom Cummings from CLA discussed parking requirements, planned parking, and the widening of
driveways are being widened for safety and sightlines. There are two entrances from Laurel Hill
Avenue. Mr. Cummings spoke about the drainage and how an environmental study was done
and there was no contamination. Mr. Cummings spoke of the Erosion and Sedimentation
Controls, including the sedimentation depression that will remain post construction. An
environmental study determined that there is no contamination present on the site. Mr.
Cummings discussed the landscaping plan as well as lighting. Michael Franklin discussed the
elevation plans and floor plans of the buildings, the lower level parking, and the views to the
river from the buildings. All of the buildings are fully handicapped accessible. Discussion ensued
regarding the mix of units in each building. The Community Center building was then discussed,
including amenities, and elevation views.
There was discussion of pros and cons of the new buildings. Some owners near the site were
happy that their property value would rise. Betty Lutz, 403 & 407 Laurel Hill Ave., lost her views
when the last buildings were put in, she was worried about the increase in traffic, especially
with there being a school, senior housing and other condos already on the hill. She was also
concerned that there are only two exits and entrances which will not be enough for the traffic.
Hector Ricafranca, 11 Thermos Ave., has lived there for 45 years and was also concerned about
the large increase of traffic especially with how narrow their street is. Robert Blakeley 24 & 34
Thermos Ave., likes the idea of new housing there but agrees that traffic on that road is so
narrow that they don’t believe a fire truck could go down this road. He disliked how his view has
been blocked.
Kathy Warzecha asked if a Traffic Report had been created regarding the project. Discussion
ensued regarding the traffic report from the previous approval. Kathy Warzecha asked to have
the traffic report updated for the evolved project.
Kathy Warzecha made a motion to continue the public hearing until the January 17, 2023 CCP
meeting, the motion was seconded by Ella Myles. All members voted in favor.
B. Referral from the Norwich City Council
AN ORDINANCE RELATIVE TO THE ABATEMENT OF TAXES AND REDUCTION OF BUILDING
PERMIT FEES FOR SOUTH MILL AT PONEMAH (AKA 555 AND 575 NORWICH AVENUE)
Deanna Rhodes shared that this is regarding the southern mill building with apartment units and
a new restaurant in the building along Norwich Ave. The Commission approved this project in
the recent past. They are seeking an abatement of taxes through the mill enhancement and they
are asking for a reduction in the building permit fees. The building fees were waived completely
for the north mill so they have negotiated on this and have come to a building fee of $100,000
to the city. The Planning Department is hiring a part time inspector at the cost of $52,000 to
inspect there for the length of construction. They are hiring their own plan reviewer so we don't
have to review all the plans for the building officials. They'll also have to provide technical
assistance regarding code compliance. Plan reviews are very expensive and so instead of the city
paying, they are. The plan reviewer must be approved by the city. We have a temporary building
official, Earl Dean that has been training our building compliance tech to get them ready to
become official building officials,
To support this and send a favorable recommendation, I recommend that you look at our
economic development. We support the redevelopment of the existing mills, and also
preservation of historic structures, as assets to the community, capitalizing on the historic
assets.
On a motion by Kathy Warzecha, seconded by Ella Myles the commission will send a favorable
recommendation on the ordinance to the city council.
COMMUNICATIONS: None presented.
OLD BUSINESS: None presented.
BOND REDUCTION/RELEASE REQUESTS: Westledge & Sheltering Arms.
2 Westledge Bond Release: The project is pretty much done, the city is holding an LOC for
$113,380, and 3 checks totaling $35,380 combined the checks total $148,960. The Engineer and
ZEO recommend that they release the bonds.
On a motion from Ella Myles, seconded by Kathy Warzecha the Commission voted unanimously
to release the Westledge bond.
165 McKinley Avenue Extension: Sheltering arms redid their parking lot, did some landscaping,
and some drainage upgrades. The city engineer and zoning are both satisfied and recommended
they release that bond as well.
On a motion from Kathy Warzecha, seconded by Ella Myles, the Commission voted unanimously
to release the bond for sheltering arms.
POCD UPDATE: The survey ends at the end of the month, staff has received two
data decks, they went over the first data deck of different sections of the POCD
and its demographic information and discussed at the last POCD meeting, and
they sent them the second data deck which Dan and Deana have not looked
through together. Some things they need information from other people on.
The data deck are the tools needed to create the POCD. They will meet with
different departments about the second deck. It's due by August of 2023.
STAFF REPORT: None
ADJOURNMENT: On a motion by Kathy Warzecha, seconded by Ella Myles, the CCP
unanimously adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Ivery R. Stakley
Agenda
COMMISSION ON THE CITY PLAN
Tuesday, December 13, 2022 - 7:00 P.M.
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1. CALL TO ORDER
2. ROLL CALL
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: November 15, 2022
4. COMMUNICATIONS: None
5. OLD BUSINESS: None
6. NEW BUSINESS:
a. PUBLIC HEARING AND POTENTIAL ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING APPLICATION:
SP#22-04/CAM #22-02: 23 Thermos Avenue. (Note Special Permit Number Correction)
Request for a Special Permit for a proposed high rise multi-family development consisting of
two (2) four-story buildings with twenty six (26) units each including lower level parking
garages, a community center with meeting rooms, pool and attached garages, and other site
improvements including drainage, parking lots, sidewalks, landscaping and lighting.
Application of CLA Engineers, Inc. Property of Riverheights Development, Inc. Assessor’s Map
125, Block 1, Lot 1. Zone MF/CAM Overlay
b. Referral from the Norwich City Council
AN ORDINANCE RELATIVE TO THE ABATEMENT OF TAXES AND REDUCTION OF BUILDING
PERMIT FREES FOR SOUTH MILL AT PONEMAH (AKA 555 AND 575 NORWICH AVENUE)
c. BOND REDUCTION/RELEASE REQUESTS: Westledge & Sheltering Arms
d. POCD UPDATE
e. STAFF REPORT
f. ADJOURNMENT
Copies: City Clerk’s Office, Clerk of Meeting, P&NS Dept. Wall, Applicant(s), File(s)
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