Commission on the City Plan
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · January 17, 2023
Minutes
COMMISSION ON THE CITY PLAN
Tuesday, January 17, 2023 - 7:00 P.M
Hybrid Meeting
23 Union Street – Lower Level Conference Room - NORWICH, CT
CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Frank Manfredi called the meeting to order at 7:00PM.
ROLL CALL AND SEATING OF ALTERNATES:
Present: Chairman Frank Manfredi, Vice Chairman Les King, Michael Lahan (Zoom), Ella Myles
(Zoom), and Kathy Warzecha.
Staff Present: City Planner Dan Daniska, Rich Shuck, ZEO was present to provide technical
assistance with Zoom; Alba Blake was present to provide translation services.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: January 17, 2022
On a motion by Les King, seconded by Kathy Warzecha, the CCP tabled the minutes until the
February 21, 2023 meeting.
OLD BUSINESS:
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING AND POTENTIAL ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING APPLICATION:
SP#22-04/CAM #22-02:
23 Thermos Avenue. (Note Special Permit Number Correction) Request for a Special Permit for
a proposed high rise multi-family development consisting of two (2) four story buildings with
twenty six (26) units each including lower level parking garages, a community center with
meeting rooms, pool and attached garages, and other site improvements including drainage,
parking lots, sidewalks, landscaping and lighting. Application of CLA Engineers, Inc. Property of
River Heights Development, Inc. Assessor’s Map 125, Block 1, Lot 1. Zone MF/CAM Overlay.
(Continued form 12/12/2022)
Dan Daniska stated that there were a number of things missing from the application packet that
was submitted by the applicant for the December meeting. Mr. Daniska shared that all the
requested documents have since been submitted.
Les King and Michael Lahan were not present at the December CCP Meeting/Public Hearing, as
such, they recused themselves from acting on the application. Frank Manfredi, Kathy Warzecha,
and Ella Myles will be acting on the matter for the CCP.
Michael Franklin, the president of River Heights Development, Inc. said they weren't prepared
last time since they were not connected to the website and so they couldn't see the comments
coming in. As a result, he gave a new presentation.
Riverview at River Heights:
Michael Franklin, owner/applicant provided an overview of the project: The submitted proposal
consists of three buildings an amenity building, Building 1 and Building 2. The buildings are carved
into the hill and take advantage of stepping so the buildings will have great views of the river.
They've designed a parking area that has elevator access to the buildings from underneath so that
all units will be accessible. They plan to dedicate the proper number for handicap accessibility as
far as accouterments, doorways etc. Michael then corrected documentation saying there are 52
units by explaining there are actually 51 residential units. They plan to work in two phases. Phase
1 is the amenity building and the first building. Phase 2 is building two. The stormwater
infrastructure for the entire site will be constructed in phase 1. This will ensure that at the start
of phase 2, it's going to catch the storm runoff from the construction going forth so that part of
the site will already be in place. The amenity building is about 3,900 sq. ft. This building will have
a gathering room, workout room, a rental office, and a boardroom. And there is a 5,600 sq. ft.
deck area that will have a pool and a pergola area. Each building is 4 stories with parking
underneath. There are 26 residential units in building 1, 12 two-bedroom units, 8 one bedroom
units, and 6 one bedroom units with a home office, in consideration of the increase of people
working from home. Building 2 will have 25 units, one less unit than building 1. That space is for
storage and an office for the person managing the property.
History: A decade ago the site was designed as a 52 unit townhome community. The townhomes
were too large and expensive to meet market needs. Construction stopped building in the area
until there became a high demand for rentals. So they went from 2,000 sq. ft. two full car garage,
and big storage to parking underneath, elevator access, apartments from 750-800 sq. ft. to 1,200
sq. ft. Michael worked with the River Heights Condominium Association for a year, because it was
a part of the common elements. In order for us to complete their design and present it to the
town, we needed to withdraw this land from the common element. It took about two years for
them to redesign, work with Bob Kroll, and come up with an agreeable solution. Bob presented a
letter which is in the record that is in favor of this permit.
Michael Franklin stated that they've been working with Norwich Public Utilities, Rob Harris, Devin
Schleidt, and they are putting in state of the art systems for energy efficiency and lower energy
costs. They have LED lighting, heat pump hot water heaters, hybrid systems, and the gas is the
backup. They've increased the impervious services to be more eco-friendly by over 40%.
Architectural designs:
Michael Franklin presented a submitted drone photo of the area so commissioners can get a true
sense of the entire site. Every unit will have a terrace but not every unit will get the water view.
Town regulations say a high-rise can be up to 105 ft., buildings 1 and 2 are 55ft.
Section 7.7.6, is what they need the special permit for. Michael discussed and explained page 3
of the attached narrative that were reasons the permit should be approved.
Kermit Hua, a registered professional engineer for the state of CT, shared how the increased
number units may affect traffic. The biggest issue would be with the Integrated Charter School
when people from the units leave for work. Overall he believes in terms of traffic impact that it is
not a major change from the previously approved application, and that the roadway has more
than enough capacity to accommodate these limited number of increased trips. Commissioners
then questioned how this would affect the school buses. Kermit Hua responded by stating that in
his professional opinion, he did not anticipate any issues with traffic related to the project.
Dan Daniska and Richard Shuck discussed newly adopted State of Connecticut regulations
requiring electric vehicle charging stations shared that “as of the first of the year the state is
requiring any large multi-family developments to provide infrastructure for vehicle charging
stations. So City Staff will work with you through the post-process to make sure that is done in
coordination with NPU”. Dan Daniska showed the exhibit list on the screen and asked that the
Commission waive the reading, as he would submit it to the clerk for minutes preparation.
On a motion by Kathy Warzecha, seconded by Ella Myles, the reading of the exhibit list was
waived.
Discussion ensued among the Commissioners regarding roadway improvements, traffic volumes,
and sidewalk locations.
On a motion by Kathy Warzecha, seconded by Ella Myles, the public hearing ended.
Kathy Warzecha made a motion to approve the application with modifications (Condition 1: that
the bonds be posted in addition for erosion and sediment control but for the road work within
the town right away. Condition 2: to add the sidewalk on the south side of Thermos Avenue to
connect to the sidewalk that addresses the other thermos development. Condition 3: Address the
vehicle charging station requirements. Condition 4: That Dan Daniska’s memo be addressed).
Seconded by Ella Myles. The motion was carried and the special permit was unanimously
approved.
NEW BUSINESS:
PUBLIC HEARING AND POTENTIAL ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING APPLICATION:
SP#22-05: 495 East Main Street. Request for a Special Permit to Change from a Non-
Conforming Restaurant Use to Another Non-Conforming Use for a Hookah Lounge. Application
of Conrado Santaliz Semidey; Property of Conrado Santaliz Samidey; Assessor’s Map 103,
Block 4, Lot 33. Zone MF & R-40/CAM Overlay
Alba Blake, City Staff from the Planning and Neighborhood Services Department, attended to
translate as needed for The applicant, Conrado Santaliz Semidey.
On a motion from Les King, second by Ella Myles, the public hearing was opened.
Attorney Simones was present to help the applicant. He says the applicant owns 495, 499 and a
piece behind it which could possibly be combined. Atty. Simones read over Dan's plan review
memo, and his clients are looking for an architect to determine the viability of a hookah lounge.
The proposal is that they would be allowed to open on Fridays and Saturday evenings for the
possible hours of 10pm-4am. There are some things they have not yet submitted like the double
insulation which will help quiet the building. They are looking to create a place people can go
after the clubs/bars where they offer non-alcoholic drinks and hookah to smoke. Hookah is a
special type of tobacco called Shiva not marijuana.
The neighbors have been notified about their project and the applicants have started basic
restoration on the building. They hope to get suggestions and ideas to move forward. If he gets
even a provisional special permit with conditions on it they can get started. Atty. Simones
believes it would be less disruptive than a pizza place.
Commissioners were concerned about the hours of operation, and potential expansion of the
hours in the future. The applicant, Conrado Santaliz Semidey responded that it will only be a
wind-down place for after the club. They also plan to have high security, a metal detector, two
security guards and zero tolerance for weapons or violence. They hope to contact the police to
pay for an officer to be there for the last two hours. If it does well he hopes to open other
locations. Parking would be on the right side of the building to the paved area in the back.
Patrons must be 21 or older to enter the business, currently you must be 21 or older to buy
tobacco products.
The commission wants the applicant to merge the properties, they want a gate at the back of
the parking lot and to move the dumpster. Kathy doesn't feel they met the Special Permit
requirements at this time and asks that they table the application. The application should meet
a 13 point criteria, and the applicants should explain how they meet the criteria/points.
The Commission received two public comments about this. Dan Daniska read them into the
record. Joanne Philbrick sent an unfavorable email about the Hookah Lounge. They also
received an email from the Norwich Police Chief about it. Groton has a Hookah Lounge and the
Groton Town Police have had many negative experiences, including stabbings, shootings, large
fights, disturbances and more. But unlike Groton Lounge, Conrado explained there would be no
BYOB, not even in the parking lot.
Kathy Warzecha made a motion to table the application and continue it to the February 21st
meeting, so Conrado can address the special excursion requirements. It was seconded by
Michael Lahan, and unanimously approved.
COMMUNICATIONS: The Connecticut land use law for municipal land use agencies boards and
commissions is coming up Saturday, March 11th 2023, at 9am-4:30pm. It's an online webinar
through the CT bar association. If anyone on the commission wants to attend please contact Dan
Daniska. All commissioners have to go through the training. Kathy requested that a calendar app
that shows different formations through CLEAR be shared by email with all the commission
members. She signed up for 3 of the classes, and stated that there are criteria they have to
connect with to be sure we’re getting trained in the right areas.
BOND REDUCTION/RELEASE REQUESTS: None.
POCD UPDATE: The planning department got a second data deck, and held second POCD
meeting. The deadline is in August so they want to have a draft by the end of April. There will be
vision, goal setting and objectives. They need a CCP Rep. for the COGs regional planning.
STAFF REPORT: None
ADJOURNMENT: On a motion by Michael Lahan, seconded by Les King, the CCP unanimously
adjourned at 8:35 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Ivery R. Stakley
Agenda
COMMISSION ON THE CITY PLAN
Tuesday, January 17, 2023 - 7:00 P.M.
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1. CALL TO ORDER
2. ROLL CALL
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: December 13, 2022
4. COMMUNICATIONS: None
5. OLD BUSINESS:
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING AND POTENTIAL ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING APPLICATION:
SP#22-04/CAM #22-02: 23 Thermos Avenue. (Note Special Permit Number Correction) Request
for a Special Permit for a proposed high rise multi-family development consisting of two (2) four-
story buildings with twenty six (26) units each including lower level parking garages, a community
center with meeting rooms, pool and attached garages, and other site improvements including
drainage, parking lots, sidewalks, landscaping and lighting. Application of CLA Engineers, Inc.
Property of Riverheights Development, Inc. Assessor’s Map 125, Block 1, Lot 1. Zone MF/CAM
Overlay. (Continued form 12/12/2022)
6. NEW BUSINESS:
PUBLIC HEARING AND POTENTIAL ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING APPLICATION:
SP#22-05: 495 East Main Street. Request for a Special Permit to Change from a Non-Conforming
Restaurant Use to Another Non-Conforming Use for a Hookah Lounge. Application of Conrado
Santaliz Semidey; Property of Conrado Santaliz Samidey; Assessor’s Map 103, Block 4, Lot 33.
Zone MF & R-40/CAM Overlay
7. STAFF REPORT
POCD Update & Other Misc.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Copies: City Clerk’s Office, Clerk of Meeting, P&NS Dept. Wall, Applicant(s), File(s)
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