Community Development Advisory Committee
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · March 19, 2013
Minutes
CDAC MINUTES
DRAFT
March 19, 2013
3:30 P.M.
Basement – 23 Union St.
Members Present:
Les King, Democles Angelopoulos, Robert McKeon, Edward Derr , Lynn Norris & Brian
Eckenrode
Others Present: Gary Evans and Susan Goldman
The CDAC meeting was called to order at 4:00 p.m..
Motion was made by Lynn Norris, seconded by Brian Eckenrode to approve the
minutes of the December 20, 2012 meeting. Meeting carried unanimously.
Organizational Discussion
• John Mathieu resigned
• Next meetings: March 21st – Applicant Presentations, March 27th – CDAC
deliberations.
• Election of Chair
o Motion was made by Demo Angelopoulus, seconded by Edward Derr
to appoint Les King as Chair of the Community Development
Advisory Committee. Motion carried unanimously.
• Gary Evans asked for comments on application format
• Brian Eckenrode suggested we make a list of “red flag” issues on applicant past
performance to look out for when committee reviews the applications
• Lynn Norris said she would recuse herself from any discussion regarding
Norwich Public Schools Bridges application and Norwich Adult Education
application due to the fact that she is a member of the Norwich Board of
Education.
Applicant Presentations
Community Care Team – Lee-Ann Gomes (see attached presentation)
Questions:
• If Hospitality Center closes what will happen to those that need temporary
shelter? Clients will be sent to other shelters in the area. The Hospitality Center
has no showers and is not an ideal living arrangement for those that have jobs.
• What kind of follow up will be in place for clients that are re-housed? A Housing
Maintenance Plan agreement will be executed between the client and the
Community Care Team. This agreement outlines a list of what is expected from
the client. A case worker is assigned and follow up visits are scheduled.
• How do you prevent client from taking in roommates? Rent goes directly to
Landlord and there are regularly scheduled inspections.
• How do you avoid CDBG funding becoming an annual line item in your budget?
Federal government is starting to shift funding of shelters to re-housing.
NHS - Norwich Works – Lee-Ann Gomes (see attached presentation)
Questions:
• Do all screened candidates receive training? No, some clients are not ready for
employment and will be referred to other programs.
• Are recent High School graduates eligible for your services? There are other
programs that deal exclusively with youth. It is important that young adults that
are not attending college become invested in a career path.
• Can childcare and transportation assistance be given to clients that aren’t
enrolled in a training program? Funds can be used if you are in a training
program or have a job and require emergency childcare or transportation
assistance.
• How do you measure the success of the program? Ray Hulten maintains a
spreadsheet that tracks all aspects of the process from intake to gainful
employment. He also does three month follow-ups with clients.
• Is it reasonable to put a restriction on program recipients that obliges them to
remain residents of Norwich for a certain period of time? That would not be
feasible and impossible to enforce.
Norwich Public Schools - Norwich Adult Education – Mary Berry (see attached
presentation)
Questions:
• How many days a week do you provide services? Beginner class is held 2 times
per week and advanced once a week
• Could program continue without CDBG funding? Madonna Place location would
be discontinued,
• What are predominant languages spoken by clients? Chinese, Haitian Creole
and Spanish
Opportunities Industrialization Center - Danielle Chiaraluce (see attached
presentation)
Questions:
• Is CDBG funding going to be used to leverage additional funding? Always try to
have matching funding when applying for other foundation grants and United
Way.
• What are funds being used for? To keep Norwich office location open and pay
project coordinator.
• Where is Norwich Office? It is located in Norwich Human Services. These
services are also offered in New London but many Norwich clients can’t access
because of distance.
• What type of service do you offer? Deal primarily with clients that have been
previously incarcerated. Teach basic skills on how to get a job, not job training.
Employment skills training, provide transportation assistance. OIC has
relationships with employers who hire people with a past criminal record.
• Does OIC work with other agencies that provide similar services? OIC holds
workshops at the EWIB that are run by OIC employees.
Safe Futures – Kathy Zeiner (see attached presentation)
Questions:
• At what locations in Norwich do you provide services? At courthouse, police
department and an office at Backus Hospital.
• Are there any other Domestic Violence advocates operating in Norwich? No,
Safe Futures is the only agency that provides domestic violence counseling.
• Are there any other Domestic Violence agencies that treat the entire family? Safe
Futures is the only agency that treats the victim along with the entire family.
• Is there a connection between Domestic Violence and homelessness? Yes,
many victims of domestic violence become homeless.
CD Office – Down payment Assistance – Gary Evans (see attached presentation)
Questions:
• If according to HUD guidelines down payment assistance is targeted to low –
moderate income, won’t those individuals/families not have enough resources to
maintain the property and eventually lose it to foreclosure? There is a general
misconception about down payment assistance and the housing crisis. The
housing crisis was not caused by government regulated down payment
assistance programs. It was a combination of issues including unfair lending
practices, high interest rates, inflated property values and the removal of
requirements that included verifying income. Accessing down payment does not
remove the need for applicants to have credit history, suitable income to cover
the monthly obligations and cash reserves. Protecting the cash reserves is part
of the concept behind down payment assistance. The more money available for
emergencies and/or repair the more adaptive the homeowner is to changes.
These funds will be used to place low-to-moderate income individuals into
homes. Qualified applicants will be required to take homebuyer education which
includes budgeting. Statistically, these individuals have limited monthly
obligations and therefore at a lower risk for default. In addition, the cost of
ownership is less than renting. This also takes into account the increase in
income as a result of allowable tax write-offs as well as the long-term benefits of
building equity.
• Aren’t most people attached to their jobs more than their house, which means
greater need to be flexible if the job relocates from the area? Homeownership
isn’t right for everyone. One of the first topics discussed in any homeownership
class, which is required as part of participation in this program, is whether or not
homeownership is right for the person. While there will always be a percentage of
individuals who have jobs that relocate or are subject to downsizing, the City of
Norwich should do what it can to fill its vacant housing space and increase
homeownership. The population least likely to purchase a home due to the
“transient” nature of the employer is the military. As of 2011, fewer than 250
residents serve in this occupation.
• How will you find qualified people? Statistically speaking the qualified people will
find us. Our purpose is to ensure LMI individuals have fair opportunities to
improve their personal situation without draining all financial resources.
Statistically, in 2011 & 2012 25% of first time homebuyers relied on gifts of down
payment from relatives.
• How can an LMI person afford this? The current interest rates would allow an
LMI person to own a house for less than they are paying every month in rent, on
average. As an example, a family of 4 making $64,400 per year could typically
qualify for a mortgage around $1,600/month, or $225,000 purchase price.
Fortunately, most properties are around $160 – 180,000. A purchase in this price
range would require approximately $12,000 for down payment and closing costs.
As stated previously many first time homebuyers receive gifts from family
members to cover down payment and closing costs. Unfortunately, the
demographic CDBG funds are set to help typically lack family resources.
Therefore, the CD office is seeking this funding to ease the burden for some of
the acquisition costs and leave money available for emergencies.
• Aren’t we putting people into older housing stock without the necessary
resources to maintain them? We are trying to encourage homeownership and
provide education, incentives and added supports through the rehab/lead
programs to improve the overall condition of the housing stock.
CD Office – Economic Development Job Creation/Retention – Gary Evans (see
attached presentation)
New Business
None
Adjournment
Motion was made by Les King, seconded by Demo Angelopoulos to adjourn.
Motion carried unanimously. The CDAC meeting ended at 6:35 p.m.
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