Dangerous Buildings, Board of Review
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · March 28, 2012
Minutes
BOARD OF REVIEW - DANGEROUS BUILDINGS MINUTES
WEDNESDAY MARCH 28, 2012
Committee members present: Gary Schnip, James Quarto, Alderwoman Sofee Noblick, Richard
Caron
Committee members not present: Andrew Zeeman, VACANCY.
Others present: James Troeger, Alderman H. Tucker Braddock Jr. (arrived at 6:25 p.m.)
1. Call to Order: Gary Schnip called the meeting to order at 5:38 p.m.
2. Determination of a Quorum: It was determined that a quorum was present.
3. Acceptance of Minutes from February 22, 2012. Upon motion by Sofee Noblick, seconded by
Richard Caron, the Board voted unanimously to approve the minutes.
It was unanimously voted to suspend the rules to add 556 East Main Street to the agenda and to talk
to the owner, Ya Ling, about the dangerous buildings and smoke stack on the property before moving
on to the next agenda item.
Jim Troeger explains that the building bordering on East Main Street needs attention. The entire
back building is in danger of losing bricks onto the sidewalk. It needs to be made safe.
Gary Schnip feels that the chimney is also a major concern. He agrees that the buildings are in
disrepair and asks Ya Ling what her intentions are.
Ya Ling explains that she has put a lot of her own money into the property, including refinancing her
homes mortgage to pay for the roof. Funding is a problem and it would be helpful if the City could
give some sort of assistance, perhaps by way of tax breaks. By helping the owner, the City would
gain because the property would be cleaned up and used which would bring more people to Norwich.
Sofee Noblick suggests that perhaps a company that uses bricks for mulch and other aftermarket
products may be willing to take down the top of the chimney for the bricks instead of money.
Ya Ling explains that with the current economy she cannot afford to do any work on this property and
also that when she purchased the property in 2007 the zoning laws about parking spaces per
apartment were different. Now it is very difficult to move this property along. She will not be able to
make as many apartments now which means less income from the property.
Jim Troeger explains that this committee is concerned with buildings that are dangerous and cannot
assist with funding issues and zoning issues. It is very important that the dangerous issues on the
property are taken care of. The consensus of the committee is that the chimney be taken care of first.
The committee is giving Ya Ling 90 days to have at least the top 10 feet taken down.
4. Communications: None.
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5. Blight updates/concerns:
a. 77 Chestnut Street – Barry has had the main building and little building behind it surveyed. He
is putting together demolition numbers for the Council.
b. 60 School Street – Ed Belli – There have been people working there.
c. 145 Wightman Avenue – There have been no positive changes made. They haven’t kept up
with promises and deadlines. There is a building permit issued for this property but nothing
has been done. There is also now a mobile home on the property. Jim Troeger will bring this
into Jeremy Booty again and update the citations.
Jim Troeger has spoken with the City Attorney about the options the City has in these situations.
Mike Driscoll stated that the City doesn’t have the power to take these properties or force them to do
certain things. It is possible the neighbors can file a lawsuit because it is an eyesore and damaging
the property values in the area. Otherwise, the City doesn’t have the right to force things.
Jim Quarto wonders what other Towns do in these situations.
Alderman Tucker Braddock Jr. believes that knowing when the Insurance company is going to pay
the owner on the claim that the City would be in better shape if all requests for the owner to care for
the property around that time so that when the owner gets the check it will be in their minds that if
they don’t do these repairs they will be fined for it. Ordinance changes will be needed as well.
Richard Caron believes it should be within the City’s ability to force owners clean up blighted
properties.
Sofee Noblick believes the Building Maintenance Code should be stronger. It needs to have teeth.
The committee should work on the Code and then have Corporation Counsel determine the legality of
the changes they would like to make.
The committee is going to look over the BOCA and see what options there are.
i. 53 Washington Street – Sofee states that Joe Ruffo is concerned about auctioning this
property. The committee needs to do something before selling it to ensure that a buyer will not be
able to use it as it currently is. There needs to be restrictions on the uses of this property.
d. 105 Stonington Road (Garage) – Bank own ed. Ed is trying to contact the bank. The work is at
a standstill. Jim will keep trying to get more information on this.
e. 26 Sherman Street – The yard is now cleaned up. The property is owned by Konstant Morell
or by a client of his and that the plan is to take down the building. Jim will call Konstant and
continue watching and report back to the committee.
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Watch List:
f. 191-193 Broad Street – The owner received the insurance money and the porch will be
repaired by April 20th.
g. 17 West Town Street – Spoke with the owner, Wayne Consentino, and he can’t get sewer until
it is installed nearby. He isn’t willing to give it to the City if he’s still going to have to pay his
mortgage.
Alderman Braddock Jr. suggests that the owner can get a dry septic system. It is something new
that is available.
Jim Troeger states that the owner is willing to take down the building but he had concerns that the
historic committee would be up in arms about it. Jim also states that the neighbor is interested in
the property and he would be willing to take down the building but he’s not willing to pay for it.
h. 60 Roath Street – City owned. The City cleaned it up. It is on the auction list.
i. 53 Washington Street – Sofee re-iterates that Joe Ruffo is concerned about this building being
sold at auction without restrictions on uses. He believes it should be on the homestead
program so it is controlled.
It was unanimously decided to recommend 53 Washington Street be removed from the auction list
so it can be placed in the Homestead Program so the City can ensure demolition of the building
and not any attempted repairs.
j. 205 Gifford Street – It is still leaning. The owner said she is working towards taking care of
this. Jim will keep it on the watch list.
k. 54-58 Broadway – Nothing new to report to the committee.
l. 60 Broad Street – The property has been cleaned up mostly. There was very little left on the
property.
m. Curran Street – The walls are up and the yard has been cleaned up. It’s moving but very slow.
n. 15 Park Street – The building is pretty much down. Jim is still waiting for the plans. After a
catastrophic event (the blizzard collapsed the roof), the owner has to do the new construction
under the new codes after a year passes. The blizzard was in January of 2011 so Jim will talk
to Tianne about this. Jim will look into this and let the committee know.
o. 105 Chestnut – Sofee called Mel and he wasn’t ready because his attorney was on vacation.
He is still working on it. Mel will let the committee know when he is ready to do something with
this.
6. Public Comments: There are none.
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7. Other:
Jim Troeger will add to the watch list the houses on Oak Street that were affected by the fire.
The one that had the fire is gone and the roof of the house next to the fire is gone. Technically
the building is repairable.
Richard Caron wants to remind the committee about the property on Laurel Hill. It is still in
pretty bad shape.
8. Next meeting – the next regularly scheduled meeting is Wednesday, April 25, 2012.
9. Adjournment:
Jim Quarto motioned to adjourn, seconded by Sofee Noblick, and the meeting was
unanimously adjourned at 7:28 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted By: Christine Averna
Agenda
BOARD OF REVIEW - DANGEROUS BUILDINGS
AGENDA
DATE: Wednesday March 28, 2012
TIME: 5:30 P.M.
LOCATION: 23 UNION STREET
PLANNING DEPARTMENT CONFERENCE ROOM
1. Call to Order
2. Determination of Quorum
3. Acceptance of Minutes – February 22, 2012
4. Communications:
5. Blight Updates/Concerns:
a. 77 Chestnut Street –Status Update
b. 60 School Street Ed Belli
c. 145 Wightman Avenue
d. 105 Stonington Road (Garage)
e. 26 Sherman Street
f. Broad Street – Porch of Greenish building
g. 17 West Town Street – Fallen Tree, Destroyed Porch
h. 60 Roath Street
i. 53 Washington Street
Watch List:
j. 205 Gifford (Shed)
k. 54-58 Broadway
l. 60 Broad Street – Clean Up
m. Curran Street
n. 15 Park Street
o. 105 Chestnut Street
6. Public Comments:
7. Other:
8. Agenda setting for next meeting – April 25, 2012
9. Adjournment
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