Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · July 15, 2015
Minutes
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HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION, NORWICH, CONNECTICUT
Minutes of July 15, 2015 Meeting
The regular meeting of the Historic District Commission was held on July 15, 2015 in Room
319, Norwich City Hall at 5:30 P.M.
Members Present:
Gideon Loewenstein, Chairman
Judith Hamblen
Pamela Muccilli
Scott Learned
Richard Guidebeck
Christie Gilluly
Members Absent: Nancy O’Neil,
Timothy Dowhan
Also Attending: Property owners Jason and Melissa Largent and their daughter, Arthur
and Ann Lathrop, and Regan Miner and Bill Champagne for The Norwich Historical Society.
Also, Joanne Philbrick and Damien Cregeau, historic district property owners.
I. Public Hearing:
The Public Hearing convened at 5:30 pm.
COA #327: Jason and Melissa Largent
20 Harland Road
Install a new wood screen door and historical signage.
Property owner Jason Largent presented the plain white sign with historically
appropriate print type in black that he wishes to affix to the front of the house denoting
the property as the James Lincoln House, 1784. He is also requesting approval to
install a period appropriate salvaged wood screen door for the side door. He also
described some of the repairs he had already made that were necessary to keep water
out of the house, namely a wooden threshold and a copper lined wooden gutter over
the front door. In addition, he will be installing a new heating/cooling system that,
because of existing conditions, needs to be placed on the outside of the house where it
will be installed in the rear and where it will not be visible from the road.
COA #328: Arthur and Ann Lathrop
403 Washington Street
Erect two new hand railings and install stone steps.
Property owner Arthur Lathrop informed the Commission that his wife had fallen on
loose flagstone steps resulting in injuries and he apologized for taking some immediate
remedial steps prior to submitting a COA application. The loose, crumbling stone
steps were removed and a mason reconstructed five steps from unitary-slab bluestone
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which is compatible with other materials on the property and provides a stable surface.
In addition, other flagstone steps that were still usable have been repaired. One of the
new hand railings replaces an old corroded one and the other is a new installation to
provide safe use of the stairs and conform to code requirements. The railings made
from black wrought iron will replicate the old one that is to be replaced.
COA # 329: The Norwich Historical Society
69 East Town Street
Install a new gutter and downspout on the north side of the
building.
Bill Champagne and Regan Miner explained there is need for a gutter on the rear of the
building to prevent rain water from bouncing off the ramp entrance that then makes its
way into the building causing damage. They presented both aluminum and a wooden
gutter options. Very little of the gutter will be visible from East Town Street.
At the conclusion of the COA application presentations Joanne Philbrick of 10 Elm
Avenue commended historic district property owners for their commitment to caring
for and preserving their historic properties while also expressing a hope for more
recognition from city government officials for these efforts in addition to that given at
the annual HDC awards. She was thanked for her expression of appreciation for
preservation efforts.
The public hearing concluded at 6:00pm.
II. Regular Meeting:
The regular meeting convened at 6:00pm.
A. Action on COA Applications:
1. COA #327: On a motion by Judy Hamblen and seconded by Scott Learned the
application was unanimously approved with the stipulation that the owner provide the
commission with a picture of the described screen door prior to installation. It was also
noted that a gutter erected above the front door as an emergency measure should be
documented.
2. COA #328: On a motion by Scott Learned and seconded by Pamela Muccilli the
application was unanimously approved as submitted.
3. COA #329: On a motion by Scott Learned and seconded by Judy Hamblen the
application was unanimously approved with the stipulation that the installation be an
aluminum gutter in a wood casing with the aluminum downspout as submitted.
B.Minutes:
On motion made by Richard Guidebeck and seconded by Pamela Muccilli, the minutes
of the meeting of May 20, 2015 were approved. Scott Learned abstained.
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C. Old Business:
1) 8 Elm Ave: Property owner, Dr. Crootof contacted Chairman Loewenstein in June
to discuss replacing rotting wooden siding on the west side of his house with Hardie
Plank siding. In July, 2010 a COA #279 application for using this material on another
side of the house had been unanimously approved. Upon receiving agreement by
email from HDC members, Dowhan, Learned and O’Neil, a letter was sent to Dr.
Crootof dated June 11, 2015 informing him that because the very same material,
Hardie Plank fiber cement lap siding, would be used it would not be necessary to go
through another COA application and if any other work is to be done on the exterior
of the house he would need to contact the Commission to determine if a COA would
be necessary. HDC member Hamblen disagreed citing the need for documenting the
work and reiterated her comments at this meeting. Ms. Philbrick questioned the
decision. Chairman Loewenstein acknowledged concerns about possibly setting a
precedent but cited the specific reason for this decision which does not automatically
apply to other projects. Ms. Philbrick also complained that the driveway at 8 Elm St.
had been blacktopped without a COA. This was not previously known to the HDC and
member Hamblen recommended that Dr. Crootof be advised that a COA application
is required. HDC member Gilluly commented that there are blacktop driveways
throughout the district and the practicality of having them in New England.
2) On July 1st a mass mailing was sent to all property owners in both historic districts.
The mailing included information on applying for a Certificate of Appropriateness, a
sample application form and definitions of work to be done. The form and
information documents are also posted on the HDC page of the city website.
D. New Business:
1) Preservation Plaque Awards for 2015: Pamela Muccilli will again canvass for
candidates for this year’s awards and Judy Hamblen will assist. All HDC members are
encouraged to submit potential recipients. This year will also include consideration of
mid-century houses not less than fifty years old and downtown buildings.
2) Contractor Corcoran contacted the Chairman re replacing the asphalt shingle roof
on 409 Washington Street. It will be the same style and color architectural shingle
and no COA is necessary.
3) In response to homeowners’ letters, John Dennis of 359 Washington Street wrote
to the chairman that he had been unaware of being in the historic district and was
halfway through rebuilding a stone and mortar wall at the front of his property with
the same type of materials. The chairman confirmed this by visiting the site.
4) Homeowner Robert Methot of 20 Coit Lane phoned the chairman in response to
the property owner letters that had been mailed. He did not know that his house was
in the district and was given information from the district maps and the tax assessor’s
records as confirmation.
5) HDC members expressed dismay at the appearance in the district of the new trash
and recycling bins that are visible from the street at all times. The unique
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characteristics of old buildings and hilly terrain can make it difficult to conceal these
large containers. Scott Learned informed the group that smaller bins would be
available in September and property owners should be informed about their
availability and asked to remove bins from street view as much as possible.
E. Chairman’s Report:
Chairman Loewenstein informed the members of his resignation from the HDC by the
end of this year together with the recording secretary as they are planning to move.
Damien Cregeau was introduced as the new owner of the former Chinigo house at 23
East Town St. He and his wife purchased the property and need to replace the asphalt
roof; he is considering using enviro composite shingles and will apply for a COA next
month. He also owns property in the Wethersfield historic district and is a member of
that HDC.
F. Next Meeting:
The next regularly scheduled meeting is August 19, 2015 at 5:30 pm
G. Adjournment:
On motion by Learned, seconded by Muccilli the meeting adjourned at 6:45 pm.
Respectfully submitted
Gideon Loewenstein
Chairman
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Agenda
NORWICH HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
AGENDA
Regular Meeting 5:30 p.m.
July 15, 2015
City Hall
Room 319
I. Attendance
II. Public Hearing
COA #327 Jason and Melissa Largent
20 Harland Rd
Install a new wood screen door and historical
signage.
COA #328 Arthur and Ann Lathrop
403 Washington St
Erect two new hand railings and install stone
steps.
COA #329 The Norwich Historical Society
69 East Town St.
Install a new gutter and downspout on
the north side of the building.
III. Regular Meeting
A. Action on COA #s 327, 328, and 329
B. Minutes of the May 20, 2015 meeting
C. Old Business
1. 8 Elm Ave: Hardie Plank Siding
2. Mailing to all property owners
D. New Business
2015 Preservation Plaque Awards
E. Chairman’s Report
F. Next Regular Meeting Date – August 19, 2015
G. Adjournment
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