Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · April 17, 2019
Minutes
NORWICH HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Minutes of the April 17, 2019 Regular Meeting
The regular meeting of the Historic District Commission was held Wednesday April 17,
2019 at 5:30 pm in City Hall Room 319.
Members Present:
Scott Learned (Chairman)
Regan Miner (Vice Chairman)
Timothy Dowhan
Richard Guidebeck
Nancy O’Neil
Members Absent:
Greg Johnson - excused
I. Public Meeting
The public meeting was convened at 5:30 pm. The order of COA presentations and
discussions are at the discretion of the commission to accommodate all participants.
• COA 392 – 359 Washington St (Roof)
John Dennis (owner) presented his application. The house is circa 1900
(Applicant noted there is some aluminum siding). Applicant would like to
replace current flat, 3-tab, asphalt shingle with Ownings Corning Duration
architectural (dimensional), asphalt shingle. Applicant describes it as a ‘middle-
of-the-pack’ product (i.e. not their top of the line, not their low end). Existing
shingle is faded black (although it now appears grey) atop a white house.
Proposed shingle is predominately grey.
II. Regular Meeting
The regular meeting was convened at 5:35 pm
A. Action on COAs
• COA 392 – Washington St (Roof)
Discussions by the commission members were favorable to the replacement of
existing shingle with like material and architectural detail. No issues voiced with
proposed choice of color. Motion to approve the COA as written (RG; NO
second) was approved unanimously.
B. Minutes of March 20, 2019 Regular Meeting
• Motion to accept the March Regular Meeting minutes as written (NO; RG second)
was approved unanimously. (SL abstain)
C. Chairman Report
• General Comments: Recent COAs have called into question what defines
appropriate materials and treatment. In very few applications (usually as a result
of an ‘after-the-fact renovation’) has the HDC strayed from an opinion of ‘like for
like’ material and restoration treatment. Chairman suggests the HDC’s mission
and responsibilities be added (in a short section) to the top of the COA
application. By bringing this detail to the forefront, this may help the applicant
in the planning of their project, provide awareness in the generation of the COA,
and in the end alleviate unnecessary tension in communicating and working with
the applicant. Recent applicants have voluntarily expressed anticipating ominous
and/or ‘contentious’ expectations in dealings with the COA process and the HDC
(which hopefully have been proven to be unwarranted!). Chairman will draft the
COA changes for review by the committee at a future meeting. Application will
leave the rules & regulations as is in the preliminary section of the full COA
package.
• Chairman indicated he received a voice message but no further documentation
and/or application pertaining to the proposed replacement of roof shingles at 377
Washington St (Vincent Verdi). Message conveyed a desire to replace current
wood shingle with asphalt. Chairman will respond to owner with a letter (with
COA package included) of encouragement to read the COA package prior to
submission of an application and work performed (cc: JTroeger @ Building
Dept). Mr. Verdi address is listed with a NY address. Have we approved asphalt
for wood? Only when work was performed before asking for permission. In term
of house with historic value, the committee’s general opinion has been ‘like for
like’ material (i.e. ‘wood for wood’).
D. Old Business
• RMiner reports the historic list of COAs requested for submission to the state
were delivered to the city (AFuller) for State submission. Three remain
missing from 2015. Members will continue to review potential sources of the
information . Chairman will review for potential electronic copy. Failing that,
a request to the applicants directly will be made (DCregeau, JHamblin,
LPereira). Missing COAs: COA #333 (23 ETown), #335 (11 Huntington Ln),
#365 (193 Broadway). What is disposition of boxes and content delivered to
city? If city will store the artifacts, there are two more boxes that could be
included. HDC would need to have access to the items in storage. Action
Item: RMiner to contact city clerk to re-iterate the artifacts retain HDC
ownership. RMiner to clarify these are the HDC original and submission to
state should be copies of the artifacts only.
• RMiner has not heard a response to our most recent communications on HDC
budget. A 3rd letter on budget sent to City Manager, Comptroller, and
DRhodes (HDC is City Planner budget item) on April 2nd proposing a budget
of $1788. Original budget request was $2388 sent October 16th; City response
on March 13th was $1000 (theoretically covers legal notices and IT costs). Our
recent proposal would contain enough to support our basic costs and a
Recording Secretary and eliminates funding the historic preservation award.
Mayor Nystrom and City legal counsel have expressed the opinion that as a
regulatory agency, a non-voting recording secretary is a must. Plan is to await
response on our latest rebuttal letter. If necessary: Ask MDriscoll for
support/legal opinion. In addition: Investigate HDC meeting include audio
self-recording.
E. New Business
• As discussed in Chairman comments: Action Item - Chair to write Verdi letter.
• It was noted that work was being performed on roof at 6 Elm Ave. Chair to write
letter (per review of property) with COA and reminder. (Seiderwicz, owner)
F. Next Meeting Date
• Scheduled for Wednesday May 22, 2019 at 5:30 pm. (Action Item – TDowhan to
initiate rescheduling (Regular Meeting Special Meeting) with city.
Commission to review and entertain future meeting dates to ensure attendance is
optimized.
G. Adjournment
• Motion to adjourn (TD; NO second) approved unanimously. The Regular
Meeting adjourned at 6:25 pm.
Respectfully submitted,
Scott Learned
Chairperson
SL/td
Agenda
NORWICH HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
AGENDA
Regular Meeting
Date: Wednesday April 17, 2019 5:30 p.m.
City Hall Room 319
I. Public Hearing
COA 392 –359 Washington St; John Dennis: (Roof)
II. Regular Meeting
A. Action on COA(s)
B. Approval of Minutes of the March 20, 2019 Regular Meeting
C. Chairman‘s Report
D. Old Business
E. New Business
F. Next Meeting Date (tentatively scheduled for 15 May 2019)
G. Adjournment
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