Inland Wetlands, Water Courses & Conservation Commission
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · September 4, 2008
Minutes
CITY OF NORWICH
INLAND WETLANDS, WATERCOURSES AND
CONSERVATION COMMISSION
September 4, 2008 Regular Meeting Minutes
23 Union Street, Norwich, CT
Agenda Items A, B & C – Call To Order, Roll Call, Determination Of Quorum:
Chairman Raymond Baribeault called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Present: Raymond Baribeault, Chairman Richard Morell, Vice Chairman
Douglas Lee Barbara Rothstein
Arthur Sharron, Alt. Robert McCoy, Alt.
Brandon Hyde, Alt
Absent with notification: Ralph Page, Jeremiah Lowney
Also Present: Michael Schaefer, City Planner
Tianne Phoenix Curtis, Recording Secretary
A quorum was present and all members present were voting.
D. Minutes:
Upon motion by Richard Morell and second by Douglas Lee, the Commission voted
unanimously to APPROVE the minutes of the August 7, 2008 regular meeting.
E. Communications: None
F. Public Hearings:
1. IWWCC – 08-03 – 1 Potter Ave – Application of Algonquin Gas
Transmission LLC – to install a new cathodic protection ground bed.
Michael Schaefer clarified the rules for a Public Hearing, and stated for the
record that he is a Certified Soil Scientist and any opinion he may have should
be considered expert opinion for the purpose of the Public Hearing. Michael
Schaefer read items “A-N” into the record. Michael Schaefer turned the floor
over to the applicant’s representative Karl Smith of TRC. Mr. Smith stated the
cathodic protection system is required by the US Department of
Transportation to maintain adequate protection. Mr. Smith explained that the
proposed system counteracts corrosion. They are typically located in
saturated soil conditions with low resistivity. Mr. Smith stated the proposed
15’ ROW would be excavated such that the topsoil is separated to one side of
the trench, and the subsoil to the other. The excavator will backfill
immediately as the cathodic line is installed. Mr. Smith wished to state for the
record that they will be able to circumvent the streambed entirely, and the
application entails the lowest practical impact to the wetlands. The
Commission questioned the required maintenance, and Mr. Smith responded
that the system requires no maintenance and has a life of 20-30 years. Terry
Doyle of Algonquin Gas Transmission clarified that when the system
eventually fails, they would only be replacing the ground bed, no removal
would be done. Ray Humphries of Algonquin Gas stated the current system is
from the 1953 coding and as it degrades it exposes more of the steel surface,
the US DOT is requiring the upgrade in a prompt fashion. The Commission
received verification that the area will be allowed to be fully vegetated. The
Commission questioned what the applicant’s alternate options were should
the additional regulatory approvals not be granted. Terry Doyle replied that,
depending on the reason of the rejection, they would change the site or take
the matter to Court as a safety issue. The Commission asked if changing the
site would represent a prudent and feasible alternative, to which Mr. Doyle
replied the alternative site would be in another wetland as that is where the
cathodic beds are most effective. The Commission questioned if the presence
of vernal pools was detected along the proposed area of impact. Karl Smith
answered that none were detected that he was aware of. Michael Schaefer
reminded the Commission that the applicant does not propose to change any
grade and therefore he would not anticipate any persistent significant changes
to the natural biology. As the Members had no further questions, the floor
was opened to the public. As there were none wishing to speak in favor or
opposition, Chairman Baribeault closed the Hearing.
2. IWWCC – 08-04 – Scotland/Hansen Rd – Application of Norwichtown
Development LLC - for Active Adult Community, including wetland/stream-
crossing utilities
Upon motion by Doug Lee and second by Arthur Sharron, the Commission
voted unanimously to suspend the rules. Chairman Baribeault and Barbara
Rothstein recused themselves. Michael Schaefer stated that Atty. David
Sherwood was present on behalf of the applicant. Atty. Sherwood stated that
he had reviewed the published legal notice and was of the opinion that it
should be re-published with a more specific address. Atty. Sherwood stated
that the abutters’ notices would also be present. Michael Schaefer stated that
Staff concurs with this opinion. Upon motion by Arthur Sharron and second
by Doug Lee, the Commission voted unanimously to postpone the Public
Hearing to the 10/02/08 regular meeting.
G. Old Business:
1. IWWCC – 08-03 – 1 Potter Ave – Application of Algonquin Gas
Transmission LLC – to install a new cathodic protection ground bed.
Upon motion by Richard Morell and second by Brandon Hyde, the
Commission voted unanimously to APPROVE the application as the
improvements will bring the site into compliance with Federal regulations, will
address safety concerns, and there is no prudent and feasible alternative.
Richard Morell motioned to amend the motion to approve with the condition
that a Certified Soil Scientist be required to do periodic site checks to assure
compliance. Doug Lee motioned to amend the motion to require a Certified
Soil Scientist be permanently on site for the duration of the excavation.
Amended motion carried unanimously. Upon motion by Richard Morell and
second by Doug Lee, the Commission voted unanimously to APPROVE the
application subject to the following condition:
1. Certified Soil Scientist be onsite and present at all times of
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excavation.
2. IWWCC – 08-04 – Scotland/Hansen Rd – Application of Norwichtown
Development LLC - for Active Adult Community, including wetland/stream-
crossing utilities.
Chairman Baribeault and Barbara Rothstein recused themselves. Upon
motion by Arthur Sharron and second by Doug Lee, the Commission voted
unanimously to postpone the Public Hearing to the 10/02/08 regular meeting.
H. New Business:
1. IWWCC-08-05 - Plain Hill Rd, Case St., Scotland Rd., Reservoir Rd., Rte.
12, Mohegan Park Rd., Rte. 169, Canterbury Tpke – Application of
Algonquin Gas Transmission, LLC for upgrades & improvements to existing
natural gas transmission system.
Doug Lee recused himself for the record. Michael Schaefer recommended a
Public Hearing as Staff is of the opinion that the application is a significant
activity. Upon motion by Arthur Sharron and second by Richard Morell, the
Commission voted unanimously to TABLE the application to the 10/02/08
regular meeting.
I. New Business items submitted after agenda preparation and prior to the
submission deadline.
1. IWWCC-08-06 – 257-259 West Town Street – Application of CUMA, LLC for
construction of commercial building with associated parking and
infrastructure.
Upon motion by Richard Morell and second by Doug Lee, the Commission
voted unanimously to TABLE the application for the 30-day public petition
period.
J. Other Business:
1. Administrative Permits Issued:
1. IW-URA-08-13 (A) – 15 Browning Road- Application of Peter Phelan –
for construction of a 24’x30’ garage.
2. 50 Town Street – Chelsea Groton Savings Bank - Under suspension of
rules, Michael Schaefer presented the plan to the Commission for the
rebuild of the retaining wall of Chelsea Groton Savings Bank that is
currently failing. Michael Schaefer stated the existing retaining wall
separates the lot from Bobbin Mill Brook and is beginning to crumble. Mr.
Schaefer stated that he wished to address as a violation in order to deal
with the matter in a timely fashion, and that the proposed plans are
currently under review by both the City Engineer and the Building Official.
The Commission concurred with Staff, as it is a public safety issue.
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K. Violations:
1. IW-VIOL – 07-01 - 81 Corning Rd- Kudlach- update
Michael Schaefer reported that Mr. Kudlach had contacted Pat Lafayette of
Development solutions, however the Federal Government is handling the
violation, and they will update us as necessary.
2. IW- VIOL – 07-02 - 150 Plain Hill Rd – Rothstein - update
Michael Schaefer reported that he had recently visited the site and all major
work has been done such as grading, removal of fill, seed has been spread,
and hay bales are present. Michael Schaefer stated the barrier at the bottom
of the slope still needs to be completed, and Mr. Rothstein wishes to install a
wooden post and cable fence for the demarcation line. The Commission
wished to retain the item on the agenda for an update at the next regular
meeting.
L. Adjournment
Upon motion by Richard Morell and second by Brandon Hyde, the Commission
voted unanimously to adjourn at 8:05pm.
Respectfully submitted,
Tianne Phoenix Curtis
Recording Secretary
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Agenda
LAST REVISED 9/2/2008 10:35 AM
CITY OF NORWICH
INLAND WETLANDS, WATERCOURSES & CONSERVATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING – 23 UNION STREET – CONFERENCE ROOM
September 4, 2008 – 7:00 P.M.
AGENDA
A. Call to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Determination of Quorum
D. Approval of August 7, 2008 regular meeting minutes
E. Communications: None
F. Public Hearings:
1. IWWCC – 08-03 – 1 Potter Ave – Application of Algonquin Gas Transmission
LLC – to install a new cathodic protection ground bed.
2. IWWCC – 08-04 – Scotland/Hansen Rd – Application of Norwichtown
Development LLC - for Active Adult Community, including wetland/stream-
crossing utilities
G. Old Business:
1. IWWCC – 08-03 – 1 Potter Ave – Application of Algonquin Gas Transmission
LLC – to install a new cathodic protection ground bed.
2. IWWCC – 08-04 – Scotland/Hansen Rd – Application of Norwichtown
Development LLC - for Active Adult Community, including wetland/stream-
crossing utilities.
H. New Business:
1. IWWCC-08-05 - Plain Hill Rd, Case St., Scotland Rd., Reservoir Rd., Rte. 12,
Mohegan Park Rd., Rte. 169, Canterbury Tpke – Application of Algonquin Gas
Transmission, LLC for upgrades & improvements to existing natural gas
transmission system.
I. New Business items submitted after agenda preparation and prior to the
submission deadline.
1. IWWCC-08-06 – 257-259 West Town Street – Application of CUMA, LLC for
construction of commercial building with associated parking and infrastructure.
J. Other Business:
1. Administrative Permits Issued:
1. IW-URA-08-13 (A) – 15 Browning Road- Application of Peter Phelan – for
construction of a 24’x30’ garage.
K. Violations:
1. IW-VIOL – 07-01 - 81 Corning Rd- Kudlach- update
2. IW- VIOL – 07-02 - 150 Plain Hill Rd – Rothstein - update
L. Adjournment
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