Inland Wetlands, Water Courses & Conservation Commission
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · December 4, 2008
Minutes
LAST REVISED 12/9/2008 12:56 PM
CITY OF NORWICH
INLAND WETLANDS, WATERCOURSES AND
CONSERVATION COMMISSION
December 4, 2008 Regular Meeting Minutes
Council Chambers City Hall 100 Broadway, Norwich, CT
Agenda Items A, B & C – Call To Order, Roll Call, Determination Of Quorum:
Acting Chairman Richard Morell called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Present: Richard Morell Douglas Lee
Barbara Rothstein Ralph Page
Arthur Sharron, Alt. Robert McCoy, Alt.
Absent with notification: Raymond Baribeault, Jeremiah Lowney, and Brandon
Hyde
Also Present: Peter Davis, Director, Michael Schaefer City Planner and Tianne
Phoenix Curtis, Recording Secretary
A quorum was present and all members present were voting.
Barbara Rothstein recused herself from IWWCC#08-04.
D. Minutes:
Upon motion by Doug Lee and second by Ralph Page, the Commission voted
unanimously to APPROVE the minutes of the November 6, 2008 regular meeting,
and the November 19, 2008.
E. Communications: None
F. Public Hearings: None
G. Old Business:
1. IWWCC – 08-04 – 60.6 acres of land on the west side of Scotland Road,
the south side of White Plains Road and the east side of Hansen Road
comprised of the following four parcels:
South side White Plains Road, Norwich Assessor’s Map 17, Block 1, Lot
9, Norwichtown Development LLC, owner; 115 Hansen Road, Norwich
Assessor’s Map 22, Block 1, Lot 10, Norwichtown Development LLC,
owner
West side Scotland Road, Norwich Assessor’s Map 23, Block 1, Lots 1-
3, Norwichtown Development LLC, owner; 145 Hansen Road, Norwich
Assessor’s Map 22, Block 1, Lot 5, Thomas R. and Colleen M. Abele,
owner – Application of Norwichtown Development LLC - for Active Adult
Community, including wetland/stream-crossing utilities.
Barbara Rothstein recused herself from IWWCC#08-04. Michael Schaefer
was not present during this agenda item. Peter Davis clarified that the
Public Hearing has been closed. Peter Davis noted that due to the
determination of a significant activity, the Commission must determine if
there is a feasible and prudent alternative, and any such finding must be
stated on the record in writing, including the types of alternatives the
applicant might investigate. The Commission reviewed sheet #2 of 28, and
Doug Lee stated that an alternative might be additional trenching along the
roadway, which would avoid the wetland crossings in their entirety. Arthur
Sharron stated that his greatest concern was that of the wetland crossing
involving the high-pressure sewer line. Arthur Sharron stated that an
alternative might be an on-site septic system. Robert McCoy questioned
the qualifications of the Intervener’s engineer, as no site visit had occurred.
Richard Morell stated two of the crossings could be omitted by the
alternative of additional trenching and or redirection. Richard Morell added
that the design of the proposed detention basins be re-examined to ensure
a minimum of 24 hour “residency” of stormwater. There were no further
comments from the Commission.
Motion was made by Doug Lee to DENY the application, in favor of the
applicant reviewing alternatives to the wetland crossings at the utility
crossings, and providing a residence time in proposed utility basins prior
to discharge to wetlands. Arthur Sharron seconded motion. Arthur
Sharron withdrew his second for additional comment by Richard Morell.
Upon motion by Doug Lee and second by Arthur Sharron, the Commission
voted unanimously (Rothstein recused) to DENY the application, as the
Commission had determined that there appear to be feasible and prudent
alternatives that may have less adverse impact on wetlands or
watercourses. The Commission recommends the applicant investigate the
following alternatives:
1. Consider alternative of eliminating forced main utility crossings
through wetlands.
2. Consider alternative of redesigning detention basins to ensure a
minimum of 24-hour residency of stormwater.
3. Consider alternative of on-site systems instead of sewer line.
The Commission took a brief recess and resumed at 7:25 pm.
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2. IWWCC-08-07 – 6A Harvard Terrace – Application of Jesshua Ballaro for the
construction of a single-family home and associated site amenities.
Michael Schaefer presented and stated that the parcel is one of an older
subdivision and cannot be divided further due to physical site constraints.
Michael Schaefer stated that the application is for the construction of a
single-family home, on-site septic system, a driveway, sub-surface
drainage and site grading. Michael Schaefer noted that the upper wetland
pocket appears to have been created post-delineation in 2003, by the
installation of a subsurface drain in preparation for the construction of a
septic system. Michael Schaefer stated that, according to the applicant’s
engineer Richard Strouse, P.E. of CME Associates, the drain is to be
repaired, therefore correcting the wetness caused by the faulty drain.
Michael Schaefer noted that Staff is of the opinion that the only additional
activities proposed within the upland review area is for footing drains,
grading and clearing, as well as a portion of the septic system, and that
Staff is satisfied with the proposed E&S controls, including silt fence that
will surround the site work area to prevent migration of sediments.
Upon motion by Arthur Sharron and second by Ralph Page, the
Commission voted unanimously to APPROVE the application subject to the
following condition:
1. Manufacturer’s recommendations should be followed when applying
the specified seed mix.
3. IWWCC-08-08 – 8 Wisconsin Avenue – Re-Application of Norwich Woods
Apartments, LP II for the construction of a multifamily complex and associated
site amenities and off-site drainage.
Michael Schaefer presented and stated that E&S controls have been put up
and the contractor has taken approximately 80% of off-site remedial action.
Michael Schaefer stated that in addition to the renewal of the expired
wetlands permit, the applicant would also need approval of the proposed
site stabilization plan to address intercepted groundwater that has been left
untreated. Michael Schaefer stated that Staff recommends tabling the
application until 100% of the off-site remedial action is complete. Upon
motion by Ralph Page and second by Arthur Sharron, the Commission
voted unanimously to TABLE the permit application to the 01/08/09 regular
meeting of the IWWCC. The Commission voted unanimously to support
Staff in imposing a completion timetable of no more than 30 days for off-
site work, and an on-site timetable to be determined by Staff.
H. New Business: None
I. New Business items submitted after agenda preparation and prior to the
submission deadline. - None
J. Other Business:
1. IW-URA#08-17(A) - 236 Salem Tpke – Michael Schaefer reported to the
Commission that the permit had been granted administratively for the
installation of a residential shed.
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K. Violations:
1. IW-VIOL – 07-01- 81 Corning Rd- Kudlach- update
Michael Schaefer reported that he had visited the site from the Kudlach
property and determined the extent of non-permitted activities appear
relatively minor and involved little if any wetland. According to Michael
Schaefer, the reported filling was limited to the Upland Review Area, and
involved three small (approximately 5 cu. yd./ each) temporary stockpiles of
soil and stone used in Mr. Kudlach’s business, and soil and rubble (concrete
and bituminous) deposition on a steeply sloping area along the east side of
the Kudlach property. Michael Schaefer stated that Mr. Kudlach had bermed
the top of the slope so that runoff from his property would not flow down the
slope, and at the time of Staff’s visit, the slope appeared to be stable. Staff
informed Mr. Kudlach that had he acknowledged past orders from the City and
cooperated with Staff, the matter could have been handled much more
expeditiously, and would not have been subject to federal involvement.
Michael Schaefer stated that Staff recommends that Mr. Kudlach be instructed
to apply for an after-the-fact permit, and that the slope be left intact as it is
stable, and it involves little or no wetlands directly. Upon motion by Ralph
Page and second by Doug Lee, the Commission voted unanimously to support
Staff’s decision to enforce an after-the-fact permit.
2. IW-VIOL – 07-02- 150 Plain Hill Rd – Rothstein - update
Michael Schaefer reported that he had received a report from Robert Russo on
11/05/08 stating that the shrubs were installed as specified on the plans, a box
wire fence was installed approximately 15 feet out from the base of the debris
slope and that while some vegetation is growing in disturbed and graded
areas, the owner will have to be mindful of erosion during heavy rains.
Michael Schaefer stated that the site would be monitored during such events.
L. Adjournment
Upon motion by Arthur Sharron and second by Doug Lee, the Commission voted
unanimously to adjourn at 7:45 pm.
Respectfully submitted,
Tianne Phoenix Curtis
Recording Secretary
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Agenda
DRAFT LAST REVISED 12/2/2008 12:52 PM
CITY OF NORWICH
INLAND WETLANDS, WATERCOURSES & CONSERVATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
CITY HALL 100 BROADWAY – NORWICH CT
COUNCIL CHAMBERS 3RD FLOOR
December 4, 2008 – 7:00 P.M.
AGENDA
A. Call to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Determination of Quorum
D. Approval of November 6, 2008 regular and November 19, 2008 special
meeting minutes
E. Communications:
F. Public Hearings: None
G. Old Business:
1. IWWCC – 08-04 – 60.6 acres of land on the west side of Scotland Road,
the south side of White Plains Road and the east side of Hansen Road
comprised of the following four parcels:
South side White Plains Road, Norwich Assessor’s Map 17, Block 1, Lot 9,
Norwichtown Development LLC, owner; 115 Hansen Road, Norwich
Assessor’s Map 22, Block 1, Lot 10, Norwichtown Development LLC,
owner
West side Scotland Road, Norwich Assessor’s Map 23, Block 1, Lots 1-3,
Norwichtown Development LLC, owner; 145 Hansen Road, Norwich
Assessor’s Map 22, Block 1, Lot 5, Thomas R. and Colleen M. Abele,
owner – Application of Norwichtown Development LLC - for Active Adult
Community, including wetland/stream-crossing utilities.
2. IWWCC-08-07 – 6A Harvard Terrace – Application of Jesshua Ballaro for the
construction of a single-family home and associated site amenities.
3. IWWCC-08-08 – 8 Wisconsin Avenue – Re-Application of Norwich Woods
Apartments, LP II for the construction of a multifamily complex and associated
site amenities and off-site drainage.
H. New Business: None
I. New Business items submitted after agenda preparation and prior to the
submission deadline: TBD
J. Other Business:
K. Violations:
1. IW-VIOL – 07-01 - 81 Corning Rd- Kudlach- update
2. IW- VIOL – 07-02 - 150 Plain Hill Rd – Rothstein - update
L. Adjournment
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