Inland Wetlands, Water Courses & Conservation Commission
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · May 3, 2012
Minutes
MAY 3, 2012 Regular Meeting Minutes
CITY OF NORWICH
INLAND WETLANDS, WATERCOURSES AND CONSERVATION COMMISSION
Lower-level Conference Room, 23 Union Street, Norwich, Connecticut
Agenda Items A, B & C – Call To Order, Roll Call, Determination Of
Quorum:
Chairman Raymond Baribeault called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Present: Raymond Baribeault, Chairman
Richard Morell, Vice-Chairman
Barbara Rothstein
Ralph Page
Douglas S. Lee
Brandon Hyde
Robert McCoy, Alt.
Absent: Jeremiah Lowney
Art Sharron
Also Present: Peter Davis, Director
Linda Lee Smith, Recording Secretary
It was determined there was a quorum and all members present would be voting.
D. Minutes:
Upon motion by Douglas Lee and second by Richard Morell the Commission
voted unanimously to APPROVE the minutes of the April 5, 2012 regular
meeting.
E. Communications: NONE
F. Public Hearings: NONE
G. Old Business:
IWWCC #12-03 – Chelsea Gardens Foundation, Inc. – CLA Engineers,
Inc. – activities associated with access drives and walkways for the
proposed public gardens at Mohegan Park within 100 ft upland review
area.
Peter Davis stated this project is located in Mohegan Park, Judd Rd/
Wilderness area, it’s in the upland review area, and it would require a buffer
permit for the construction of a 20’ wide access road with drainage structures.
The nearest point of disturbance to a wetland for the road is approximately 60
feet. Water quality basins and plunge pools are also being constructed as part
of the drainage system. A very extensive wetland reports was included with
their application. Instead of installing a silt fence, the Wetlands Report
recommended they do wood chip berms. The berms will allow migration of
obligate species to migrate from upland areas to the vernal pools during the
breeding season. Tom Cummings noted that there were also buildings,
parking and walkways that are part of Phase I. Department of Public Works
(DPW) reviewed the drainage report, had a couple of minor suggestions but
they’ve approved it. The majority of storm water will infiltrate or flow overland
as it does now.
Tom Cummings, CLA Engineers, gave a brief history overview from 1994 to
the present. After reviewing the wetland soils he showed the original Master
Plan for the site as well as the revised plan. After reviewing the wetlands
soils, pools, and vegetation it had been revised as the Chelsea Gardens
Master Plan. The wetlands paths they will be installing stone dust type of
material 8’ wide and a lot of them follow the existing path. Tom Cummings
said there are about 18 areas where they come within the 100’ buffer area to
be able to build paths.
Bob Russo, Soil Scientist with CLA Engineers stated there would be no direct
or temporary wetland impact, all activities in this phase are within the 100’
upland review area. There are hiking trails and drives proposed and most of
the work in the Upland Review Area would be for access to places like the
vernal pools. Bob Russo & Brian Long were working to keep storm water
flows to a minimum. The overflow parking on the grass will flow into vegetated
strips and pavers that are pervious and would be put back into the ground,
and the roof water would be collected in cisterns and used for watering the
plants.
Brian Long gave a brief overview on the storm water. He stated that the run-
off is to keep areas as the vernal pools and wetlands as presently with the
water runoff. Each area that has a paved area will have a water quality basin.
Douglas Lee asked about portion the dash line is in the middle it looks like a
+crown roadway with it going in two different directions. Brian Long said yes
and they originally were thinking of putting in small water quality basin and
had enough overland flow for small stretch before coming down. Douglas Lee
stated that he was concerned when the winter months with salt trucks going
through and he’d like to have controlled the amount of runoff from the road to
the wetland areas. Rather than having it crowned could they re-bank so it is
beyond and not down the center of the road. Mr. Long said yes that they can
do it in a swale. Mr. Lee didn’t think he needed another basin on the right
side the left looked sufficient. The water quality basins have been sized to
reduce the peak flows going off the site. Peter Davis stated most of it is
infiltration.
Peter Davis stated that parts of the path system will be regulated activities at
some point. He also stated that it was referred out to City Departments and
didn’t have any comments. He would have more extensive comments when
the site plan is prepared. He stated that at the end they will require an As-
built rather than modify the plans now.
Douglas Lee asked for a copy of the Inland Wetlands Report electronically.
Bob Russo will get it to Peter Davis to be sent to the Commission.
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Chairman Raymond Baribeault was concerned with the trash on the hiking
paths and the maintenance of it. Tom Cummings said it will be staffed, it’s a
gated protected area to visit the garden itself, and the staff will maintain the
gardens.
Brandon will be recusing his vote because he sits on the Chelsea Gardens
committee.
Upon motion by Douglas Lee and seconded by Ralph Page the Commission
voted in favor with Brandon Hyde abstaining to APPROVE application
IWWCC 12-03 Chelsea Gardens Foundation Inc. with the condition that all of
the portion of the roadway for which storm water runoff capture and treatment
will be covered so that there would be no inadvertently design sheet-flow from
the roadway into the any of the wetland areas. .
IWWCC #12-04 – City of Norwich, Norwich Recreation Dept. – activities
associated with the construction and replacement of the existing
bathhouse at Mohegan Park within 100 ft upland review area.
Peter Davis explained to the Commission that this is to replace the existing
bathhouse for a buffer permit in the Upland Review Area at Spaulding Pond.
They are to replace the existing bathhouse with pre-cast concrete structure
on the existing slab. There will be minor disturbances, excavation and
installation of utility lines. Around the edge of disturbance they will install a silt
fence, for very short term construction impact if any. Uncas Health had no
comment as well as the other City departments. DPW worked very closely
with the architect, CLA and did the plot plan, and they’re very comfortable and
there is no change to any drainage, and pre and post conditions will be the
same.
Upon motion by Brandon Hyde and seconded by Barbara Rothstein the
Commission voted unanimously to APPROVE application IWWCCA 12-04.
IWWCC #12-05 – Dutch & Associates Land Surveyors for Huaru Wang,
147 Westledge Drive – activities associated with the construction of a
single family house and access drive within a regulated area.
Peter Davis stated that this was an incomplete application. DPW had
reviewed it and requested a number of items which the applicant hasn’t
provided. This will need to be tabled, and they are within the 30 day
timeframe.
Upon motion by Ralph Page and seconded by Richard Morell the
Commission voted unanimously to TABLE the application until the next
regular scheduled meeting of June 7, 2012.
IWWCC #12-06 – Killingly Engineering Associates for Franklin Hills
Estates & Country Club, LLC to install water and sanitary sewer lines
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from Stott Avenue to the town of Franklin within the 100 ft upland review
area.
Peter Davis explained that this application was being withdrawn. After
reviewing the application it was submitted as an Upland Review Application,
after further review they wanted to put a pipe under the wetlands so they
would be constructing some access roads and a regulated permit application
would be needed. A letter had been submitted from Normand Thibeault from
Killingly Engineering Associates withdrawing their application.
H. New Business: None
I. New Business items submitted after agenda preparation and prior to
the submission deadline:
Peter Davis stated that he had received the wetlands application for Franklin
Hills Estate & Country Club from Killingly Engineering Associates for 2
Consumers Ave/Stott Ave IWWCC #12-09 to table for the 30 day public
petition period.
Upon motion by Ralph Page seconded by Brandon Hyde, the Commission
voted unanimously to TABLE the application until the next regular scheduled
meeting of June 7, 2012, in order to comply with the required 30 day public
petition period.
J. Other Business: NONE
K. Violations: NONE
K. Adjournment
Upon motion by Brandon Hyde and seconded by Douglas Lee it was
unanimously voted to adjourn at 7:38 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Linda Lee Smith, Recording Secretary
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Agenda
CITY OF NORWICH
INLAND WETLANDS, WATERCOURSES & CONSERVATION COMMISSION
Regular Meeting
LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM
23 UNION STREET, NORWICH, CT
MAY 3, 2012 – 7:00 P.M.
AGENDA
A. Call to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Determination of Quorum
D. Approval of April 5, 2012 regular meeting minutes
E. Communications: NONE
F. Public Hearings: NONE
G. Old Business:
IWWCC #12-03 – Chelsea Gardens Foundation, Inc. – CLA Engineers,
Inc. – activities associated with access drives and walkways for the
proposed public gardens at Mohegan Park within 100 ft upland review
area.
IWWCC #12-04 – City of Norwich, Norwich Recreation Dept. – activities
associated with the construction and replacement of the existing
bathhouse at Mohegan Park within 100 ft upland review area.
IWWCC #12-05 – Dutch & Associates Land Surveyors for Huaru Wang,
147 Westledge Drive – activities associated with the construction of a
single family house and access drive within a regulated area.
IWWCC #12-06 – Killingly Engineering Associates for Franklin Hills
Estates & Country Club, LLC to Install water and sanitary sewer lines
from 2 Consumer Ave/Stott Avenue to the town of Franklin within the
100 ft upland review area
H. New Business:
I. New Business items submitted after agenda preparation and prior to
the submission deadline:
J. Other Business: NONE
K. Violations: NONE
L. Adjournment
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