Public Safety (Subcommittee of the City Council)
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · April 8, 2009
Minutes
Public Safety Committee Meeting
Laurel Hill Volunteer Fire Department
April 8, 2009 Minutes
Committee Members Present
Alderman Mark Bettencourt
Alderman Jonathan Jacaruso
Alderman William Nash
Administration and Staff Present
Alan H. Bergren, City Manager
Timothy Menard, Police Captain
Ken Scandariato, Fire Chief
Gene Arters, Emergency Management Director
Roland Frechette, Emergency Management
Volunteer/Central Fire Departments and Others
Chief Frank Blanchard, Yantic Vol. Fire Department
Chief Tim Jencks, Taftville Vol. Fire Department
Chief Patrick Daley, East Great Plains Vol. Fire Department
Chief Ed Martin, Laurel Hill Fire Department
Shane Depuis, Taftville Vol. Fire Department
Roland Lambert, Occum Fire
Ray O’Connell, Yantic Fire Eng Co 1
Dan Auger, Taftville Fire
Raymond Henry, Yantic Fire
Robert Allen, Yantic Fire
Frank Cilley, Yantic Fire
James Marciano, Taftville Fire
Michael Lattin, Laurel Hill Fire
Aaron Westervelt, Laurel Hill Fire
Damian Rickard, American ambulance
I. Call to Order – Quorum
Alderman Mark Bettencourt called the meeting to order at 7:07 p.m. It was determined a
quorum was present.
II. Approval of Minutes
Alderman Jon Jacaruso motions to approve the March 11, 2009 Public Safety Meeting Minutes.
Motion was seconded by Alderman William Nash. All in favor, the motion passes unanimously.
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III. Correspondence
a) Alderman Mark Bettencourt submits an email that was sent to a master email list pertaining to
a dinner for Red McKeon’s induction into the National Firefighters Hall of Fame. The dinner
will be at the Aqua Turf in Southington on April 9, 2009, with a cocktail hour starting at 6 p.m.
Tickets are $35.
b) Alderman Mark Bettencourt submits an email from Chief Tim Jencks regarding the Dive
Team. The email outlines the progress of the Dive Team classes and the divers’
accomplishments.
IV. Citizen Comment
None
V. New Business
a) Police Radio Issues. There have been talks with John Bilda about the communication
difficulties and using the new infrastructure. In the rain there is a dramatic drop-off of quality.
Dispatch transmits over phone lines and the speeds are slow. Anticipate implementing and using
fiber optics by the end of the summer.
Looking to the future and possibly using repeaters and the fiber optics would cover the dead
zones. There also may be stimulus available to aid in funding this venture.
Chief Scandariato says the changes are in phase 3. The time has been put in and he knows where
they need to be and why.
Patrolmen can’t make contact across the street in some areas. These dead spots are reducing
response time globally (Police and Fire) throughout the city. And the dead spots differ from
Police to Fire and from time to time based on weather and other factors.
b) Chief Scandariato recommends withdrawal of the Forestry Unit as part of the plan. The
department needs that unit to continue protecting the public safely. He needs that apparatus.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt assures Chief Scandariato that this is going to be a continuous
discussion and will remain on the agenda.
VI. Old Business
a) Dispatch issues. Chief Fusaro is under the weather and was unable to attend the meeting.
City Manager Alan Bergren is working with NPU. There is a draft report that will be ready by
the next meeting and includes their assessment and what functions they can assume and the costs
it will incur.
Captain Menard says these are personnel issues and will be dealt with by department heads.
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b) Ladder Truck replacement. Chief Scandariato requests to withdraw this from the agenda. He
is not ready to discuss this at this time and needs time to be properly prepared.
-Assistance to Firefighters Grant 2009 – 18 month timeframe so the earliest would be September.
Grants are not usually used for full funding and he’s asking for full funding.
-Peer Group Review
-Firematic will be doing a vehicle demo on April 10th at 10 a.m. All are welcome to attend.
So this will remain on the agenda for next month.
Question from Alderman Jon Jacaruso to the City Manager – there is $100,000 in the capital
improvement fund for a ladder truck. Does this carry over from year to year if it’s not used?
City Manager says yes. Alderman Jacaruso also asks if this will be used as matching funds for
the grant and Chief Scandariato is trying to lock down figures so he can make intelligent
decisions since a truck would run from $800K to $1.2 Million.
VII. Other.
a) Chief Scandariato wishes to discuss the public safety issues regarding 196 Yantic Street, the
property with the Art Form building and the scenic view of the waterfall. There are no fences or
marking and it is a large drop-off which is dangerous to people and vehicles.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt asks the City Manager what the fine situation is. It is in the $70,000
range.
Alderman Jon Jacaruso mentions eminent domain as a possibility here as there is a scenic
outlook that could make a park. The city would incur liabilities if they were to erect a fence on
private property. Chief Martin, who is also the city blight officer, notes that fines are third in
line on a foreclosure after the mortgage and taxes. Alderman Jon Jacaruso says the Building
Department is working as aggressively as possible but they are following the necessary rules and
procedures. Chief Scandariato reiterates that because of the scenic overlook and lack of fence
this is a tourist magnet and remains a huge risk. Alderman Mark Bettencourt asks if the building
is boarded and he is informed that the building is secure. Alderman Jon Jacaruso asks what
benefit if any would there be if the City installed “Jersey Barriers” and he is reminded that if the
City acts then the City assumes the liability. The Norwich Historical Society is looking to make
it a park some day. The property had been sold to a developer who wanted to build
condominiums but the deal fell through.
b) Discussion regarding the 350th anniversary. Do you have volunteers? Answer – yes.
c) Alderman Jon Jacaruso asks the Yantic Fire Department about the Norwichtown Green and
whether they’re ready for the Encampment. He mentions Cathy Sherri and that there will be
people living there with open fires. There will be support needed.
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d) There was a tanker roll over in Plainfield. The Norwich companies were called on to lend
assistance since Plainfield is short handed. Chief Scandariato compliments that Norwich is rich
with volunteers and they respond in a timely fashion. They are of great caliber. They were the
first called to assist as they have a foam trailer. The water supply couldn’t get in. This was a
reminder that the surrounding Municipalities tend to lean on Norwich volunteers a lot. We are
the first to be called when mutual aid is needed because of the greater numbers and fast response
time.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt congratulates Norwich on the nature and professionalism of their
volunteers. It is impressive.
e) Alderman Jon Jacaruso wishes to discuss Dangerous Buildings.
What is the status of the “Do Not Enter” building list? Chief Scandariato has a list and was
talking with other chiefs to combine all the lists into one concise list for all to have. Chief
Scandariato is still working to move forward on this.
Chief Frank Blanchard asked Chief Scandariato what the guidelines are for qualifying buildings
as “Do Not Enter” buildings. Chief Scandariato states there are no set qualifications. They want
to be able to push landlords to update and repair dangerous buildings to ensure the safety of the
public as well as the volunteers who would have to enter the buildings in the event a rescue was
necessary.
Chief Scandariato is always working on the list. It is a slow process but it is being addressed and
it seems to be working. The Building Department and the Fire Departments should work
together and share information so as to improve the list and ensure the safety of the public and
our volunteers.
Dispatch knows the DNE buildings. Chief Martin states that the Fire Chief on the scene makes
the decision whether to enter or not.
Chief Jencks of Taftville hopes one day the DNE lists can be standardized and distributed but it
is very difficult.
Chief Scandariato says the DNE list is a case by case thing. That it is a judgment call based on
many factors. It’s necessary to assess the structure in operation. Work with the Building
Department and building owners. Assess the hazard it presents. Contact the owner of record to
fix or close the structure. Check the structure for viability and position on property and
accessibility. These are all factors that must be assessed.
f) Alderman William Nash mentions that he is holding a Public Forum at the Central Baptist
Church in Greenville on Wednesday April 22, 2009 at 5:30 p.m. He states that the forum is open
for talking about anything and everything and that Chief Scandariato will be his special guest.
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VIII. Adjournment
Alderman William Nash motions to adjourn at 7:50 p.m. Alderman Jon Jacaruso seconds the
motion. Meeting adjourned.
Agenda
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AGENDA
Wednesday April 8, 2009
Laurel Hill Vol. Fire Dept.
7:00 P.M.
I. Call to Order – Quorum
II. Approval of Minutes
a. Minutes of March 11, 2009
III. Correspondence
a. Red McKeon National Firefighters Hall of Fame Induction
IV. Citizen Comment
V. New Business
a. Police Radio issues
b. Implementation schedule for chiefs recommendations
VI. Old Business
a. Dispatch issues – Report from Chief Fusaro
b. Ladder truck replacement
VII. Other
VIII. Adjournment
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