Public Safety (Subcommittee of the City Council)
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · August 12, 2009
Minutes
Public Safety Committee Meeting
Yantic Volunteer Fire Department
August 12, 2009 Minutes
Committee Members Present
Alderman Mark Bettencourt
Alderman William Nash
Committee Members Not Present
Alderman Jonathan Jacaruso
Other Council Members Present
Alderman Peter Nystrom
Administration and Staff Present
Alan H. Bergren, City Manager
Timothy Menard, Police Captain
Gene Arters, Emergency Management Director
Ken Scandariato, Fire Chief
Volunteer/Central Fire Departments and Others
Chief Frank Blanchard, Yantic Vol. Fire Department
Chief Patrick Daley, East Great Plains Fire Department
Chief Tim Jencks, Taftville Vol. Fire Department
Assistant Chief Tom Jencks, Taftville Fire Department
Daniel Auger, Taftville Fire Department
Eric Benoit, Taftville Fire Department
Roland Frechette, Norwich Emergency Management
Scott Merchant, Norwich Fire Fighter
Aaron Westervelt, Laurel Hill Fire Department
Damian Rickard, American Ambulance
Roland Lambert, Occum Fire Department
Jennie Lavoie, Taftville Fire Department
Barry Ellison, Norwich Dept of Public Works
John Bilda, General Manager, Norwich Public Utilities
Jerry Strange, Laurel Hill Fire Department
Roger Snell, East Great Plains Fire Department
Joe Winski, East Great Plains Fire Department
Joe Crowley, Norwich Fire Department
Rob Ladd, Yantic Fire Department
Jim Crosby, Yantic Fire Department
Paul O’Connell, Yantic Fire Eng Co 1
Joseph Hebert, Norwich Fire Department
Bill Eyberse, Yantic Fire Department
Lauren T Casady, Norwich Fire Department
Gregory Despathy, Norwich Fire Department
Timothy Teper, Norwich Fire Department
Paul Schroder, Norwich Fire Department
Sean Bennett, Yantic Fire Department
Brian Cubanski, Yantic Fire Department
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I. Call to Order – Quorum
Alderman Mark Bettencourt called the meeting to order at 7:10 p.m. It was determined a
quorum was present.
II. Approval of Minutes
Alderman Mark Bettencourt motions to approve the June 10, 2009 Public Safety Meeting
Minutes amending Capt. Menard’s title on page 2. Motion was seconded by Alderman
William Nash. All in favor, the motion passed unanimously.
III. Correspondence
No correspondence.
IV. Citizen Comment
No Citizen Comment.
V. New Business
a) Plain Hill Base Station: 33.66 repairs.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt asks what the status is.
Chief Frank Blanchard talks about the Plain Hill Amp Failure.
Chief Scandariato is waiting for an estimate for repairs
Chief Scandariato says money will be an issue. The PM contract has not been
funded. It is not in the budget as of yet. It needs to be funded by September.
Chief Frank Blanchard agrees that this needs to be funded.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt asks if $11,000 will cover everything.
Chief Scandariato will send a information on cost.
City Manager Alan Bergren will follow up on this.
b) “Working Fire Tone” / activation or rollout date.
Captain Menard says the system is ready to roll. They are working on when they can
test the system – working out scheduling. The Chief’s are working on it, but the
system is ready.
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VI. Old Business
a) Ladder 2 Replacement.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt notes that funding is going to be an issue. He asks if
this is going out to bid yet.
Chief Scandariato says they are still developing a spec for the bid process. They
have a truck committee working on what it will cost. The old ladder truck has to
come out of service. There are too many structural issues with it. He brings up that
in October 2008 the committee agreed this needed to be moved on. He states that the
truck is no longer safe for our firefighters. Heavy use is causing expected
breakdown for a 40 year old truck. It’s not safe. Period. This vehicle poses a
significant danger to the firefighters and the community
Alderman Mark Bettencourt wants to remind all of the cost of give and take. The
cost of taking from one department means that the effectiveness of another suffers.
Scott Merchant – witnessed the truck twist failure and that was with no load.
Chief Scandariato – Please entertain this idea. It needs to be brought to everybody’s
attention. And please present this to the Council.
Chief Blanchard supports the replacement of the ladder truck. It is necessary.
Chief Jencks – Repairing this truck is not an option any more. It needs to be retired.
Chief Daly – agrees with everyone as well. Losing a life – volunteer or career
firefighter’s life – is not worth keeping the truck. It could very well leave the
departments with no ladder truck should they both break down. A resolution to bond
is needed to keep the city safe.
Lauren Casady – 7 years on Engine 2 – has served on the truck in many fire. The
ladder has had many issues. The City Garage does great keeping it running but it
needs much repair and having 1970’s safety devices is not acceptable.
Scott Merchant points out that nobody in the room would drive a 40 year old vehicle
to work. It is time to get to work on replacing this ladder truck.
Assistant Chief Joe Linsky – All items point back to safety of both firefighters and
the public. We want to provide the best service. With this truck in use, they can’t
look the public in the eye. The people have an expectation of care.
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Alderman Mark Bettencourt motions the Council adopt a bonding ordinance of
$800,000 for appropriation of a replacement for ladder 2.
Alderman William Nash asks if $800,000 will buy a new truck. Why not put this
item on the referendum? He supports replacement and thinks the people would too.
Chief Scandariato, what about grant funding?
Chief Scandariato with the City Manager have been looking into leasing with
purchase options. We may be able to obtain a grant to pay for part of the purchase.
However, if we bond for the truck the grant won’t happen because it will be funded.
A lease to buy option would still allow us to have the truck but obtain grant funding
to assist in its purchase.
City Manager Alan Bergren states that The RFP would request both a purchase price
option and a lease option with payoff plan or any other available financing
arrangements. In this emergency situation it may be the fastest way to obtain this
truck.
Chief Scandariato wishes to move on the lease to purchase option. As it may be the
most cost effective way to fund an emergency purchase.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt withdraws his motion.
Chief Scandariato believes this does qualify as an emergency need situation.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt asks how fast the new vehicle can be delivered.
Chief Scandariato believes it may be as little as 3 months.
Alderman William Nash motions to say that the committee supports the lease to
purchase option for an emergency need for the replacement of Ladder 2.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt seconds the motion.
All in favor, the motion passes unanimously.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt addresses the gallery letting them know that it would be
beneficial for some supporters to be at the Council meeting when this item comes up.
b) Update from NPU: Availability and equipment needs
Re: elimination of phone lines to Plain Hill and Orchard St. and hydrant system
evaluation and color banding. Potential future water supply projects/prioritization. John
Bilda reports that 32 Miles of Fiber Cable is in and tested and moving data now. The cable
can work with breaks. It is capable of moving digital signals but not analog. Analog
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would require devices costing approximately $5,000 each. But the cable is in every city
building and the testing is done. It works.
John Bilda - Hydrant Color Banding – has not been tested yet but has samples of banding to
use for test and evaluation. The bands get strapped below the bonnet. Red band would
mean less than 500 gal, Gray would signify 500-1000, Green would be 1000-1500, and blue
would mean 1500 and up. Taftville and Norwich will be pilot testing the bands.
John Bilda - Water Supply – adequate water supply for fire. We applied for stimulus but
were not eligible since the project wasn’t “shovel ready”. Design specs being put together
for (drinking water) stimulus requests.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt asks what the priorities are. What needs to be done first?
The $10 million in priorities are equally incremental, equally important.
Chief Scandariato – ISO has been contacted – change certification 4-9 date. We are ready to
modify and improve.
c) Vergason Avenue gate upgrade.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt asks if 911 issues are ok.
Captain Menard says yes.
Chief Blanchard thanks Captain Menard and Public Works. Vergason Avenue is
now Vergason Avenue Extension at the affected addresses.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt – so 5 addresses are affected?
Chief Blanchard – yes. 1 commercial and 4 residential. The gate holds up life and
death calls. Have to access from Hilltop Road. Would like an update from Public
Works about updating gates, new locks since the current one freezes. The gate needs
fixing.
Barry Ellison of NPU will get the update information.
Alderman William Nash asks why the gate was put in.
The business park brought too many 18 wheelers and delivery trucks. The residents
didn’t want that any more so the gate was installed. Now there are several access
points.
Alderman William Nash asks if the gate can simply be left open in winter.
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Alderman Mark Bettencourt believes that is not a good idea since EB has many
employees and it would greatly increase traffic on a small side street.
VII. Other.
None
VIII. Adjournment
Alderman William Nash motions to adjourn at 7:42 p.m. Alderman Mark
Bettencourt seconds the motion and it passes unanimously. Meeting adjourned.
Agenda
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AGENDA
Wednesday August 12, 2009
Yantic Volunteer Fire Department
7:00 P.M.
I. Call to Order – Quorum
II. Approval of Minutes
a. Minutes of June 10, 2009
III. Correspondence
IV. Citizen Comment
V. New Business
a. Plain Hill Base Station: 33.66 repairs
b. “Working fire tone” / activation or rollout date
VI. Old Business
a. Ladder 2 replacement
b. Update from NPU: Availability and equipment needs
Re: elimination of phone lines to Plain Hill and Orchard St. and hydrant
system evaluation and color banding.
Potential future water supply projects/prioritization
c: Vergasun Ave gate upgrade
VII. Other
VIII. Adjournment
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