Public Safety (Subcommittee of the City Council)
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · April 11, 2012
Minutes
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MINUTES
Wednesday April 11, 2012
Yantic Volunteer Fire Department
7:00 P.M.
Committee Members Present
Alderman Mark Bettencourt
Alderman H. Tucker Braddock Jr.
Alderwoman Sofee Noblick
Administration and Staff Present
Alan H. Bergren, City Manager
Kenneth Scandariato, Fire Chief
Chief Frank Blanchard, Yantic Fire Department
Chief Tim Jencks, Taftville Fire Department
Chief Aaron Westervelt, Laurel Hill Fire Department
Gene Arters, Director OEM
Deputy Chief Bob LaChapelle, Occum Fire Department
Chief Joe Kochanski, Laurel Hill Fire Department
Sergeant Steve Lamontini, Norwich Police Department
Captain Todd Milhomme, Taftville Fire Department
Lieutenant Raymond Henry, Yantic Fire Department
Assistant Chief Paul O’Connell, Yantic Fire Department
Volunteer/Central Fire Departments and Others
Chris LaRose, Norwich Public Utilities
Ron Stoltz, Yantic Fire Department
Ken Leo, Yantic Fire Department
Ray O’Connell, Yantic Fire Department
Frank Cilley, Yantic Fire Department
James Marciano, Taftville Fire Department
Ryan Flaherty, Yantic Fire Department
Adam Herz, Yantic Fire Department
I. Call to Order – Quorum
Alderman Mark Bettencourt called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. It was determined
a quorum was present.
II. Approval of Minutes - Minutes of March 14, 2012.
Alderman H Tucker Braddock Jr. motioned to approve the March 14, 2012 minutes,
seconded by Alderwoman Sofee Noblick. All in favor, the motion passed.
III. Correspondence
City Manager Alan Bergren mentions the Communications Bond Figures Breakdown
(included in the meeting packet). Alderman Mark Bettencourt adds Communication
Bond Issue under new business.
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IV. Citizen Comment – None.
V. New Business
a. Communications Bond Issue
Alderman H Tucker Braddock Jr asks if the breakdown included every department.
City Manager Alan Bergren states that yes, every department was included in the bond
package. Every needed piece of equipment for the upgrades was put into the amount.
The committee looked over the bid breakdown and discussed the numbers and what
each item meant. It was asked if the pagers were still necessary and it was replied that
even though the service for the pagers is spotty it is very important.
Chief Blanchard reminds the committee that they do have a secondary notification
system set up through EDispatches. It is great for filling in the service area shortfalls
but would not be a good primary service. It is being used to ensure that more
department members get the call.
Ken Leo also mentions that the pagers continue transmitting what is happening as it’s
happening so members responding know what’s needed and where.
Gene Arters talks about possibly donating any equipment that has to be replaced rather
than simply throwing it away.
Chief Scandariato thinks it is a good idea however there are regulations set by
Homeland Security so it may not be possible to control where the old equipment goes.
There are many restrictions on donations of radio equipment.
The committee is thinking that maybe they can make re-use of the equipment part of the
bidding process. It may also be possible to talk to the parent company to see about
getting a recycle credit for returning the old equipment “in exchange” for the new
equipment.
Chief Blanchard wonders if anyone can elaborate on the infrastructure line item that is
$134,000.
City Manager Bergren will check with Josh and send out the information he used to
compile the final numbers.
Chief Scandariato asks where the 10 megs of data flow came from? What if it’s not
enough data transfer? He has heard that Fleet Maintenance has had some times
where data transfer is slow due to the amount of transmissions.
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Chris LaRose from NPU replies that it is a configuration and he will look into it. He
states that a pilot study can be done to test the system.
Chief Scandariato states that maybe this upgrade is a good time to expand the City’s
P.A. system. It is the best way to reach a lot of people at once in group settings.
Ken Leo agrees that it’s a great need but that the communications bond issue shouldn’t
be held up to add PA systems. It is something that can stand on its own.
Alderman Braddock made a motion, seconded by Alderwoman Noblick, to have the Public
Safety Committee write a letter to the Council outlining the necessity of approving this bond,
and explaining that the upgrades are being done because of a State Mandate that requires this
be done this year, and that it is imperative that the Council react as quickly as possible,
especially in view of the potential to increase the safety of the public. The motion passed
unanimously.
b. Chris LaRose from NPU asks if a date has been chosen for the Governor’s drill and
when Norwich is going to be participating.
Gene Arters states a date was chosen and it was Monday and he believes it was the
30th of July. He also mentions that at a meeting in Hartford it was mentioned that the
State is having a lot of trouble putting this together. There is a lot of difficulty
coordinating with the utilities and the towns and it does fall right in the middle of the
vacation time of the year. It is probably going to be more low profile than originally
thought. It is possible that it will not be anything too elaborate.
VI. Old Business
a. Taftville FD Addition
This is a very big issue and the committee would like to do more information and
funding research on this. It is decided to table this until the next meeting.
b. Incentives for Employee Residency
Alderwoman Sofee Noblick had a department head meeting that represented the first
responders except for the volunteers. She is hopeful that the volunteer departments will
attend the next meeting so that all departments will be included. This is an attempt to
create an incentive program to have first responders live in the City. Not as
requirement, but to encourage it. The idea is to get feedback on current and possible
future incentive programs so as to push for things that would really be encouraging to
them.
Alderman Bettencourt thinks it may be helpful to approach Legislature to see if the State
would be willing to loosen up on some of the regulations.
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c. Dry Hydrants update
Alderman Mark Bettencourt states that they received some examples of easements for
the fire hydrant and pipeline easement. There was an example from another town as
well.
Chief Blanchard states that there have been 4 meetings since March 14th. Peter Davis
has been very helpful and put them in contact with Michael Schaeffer and he is well
versed in the permitting process. There is a small permit fee. They’re looking into 3
sites with one primary site. He will need to talk with Corporation Counsel about
easements and speak with the neighbors. They have selected McLellan Avenue, off
Otrobando Avenue, as their proposed primary site. There is a large man-made pond
and both East Great Plains and Yantic would be able to use it.
Alderman Bettencourt is going to remove this item from the agenda for now. It seems to
be moving along well.
VII. Other
Chief Scandariato wanted to mention that he met with the Occum Fire Chief and Deputy
Chief and they have reached out and requested assistance with their reporting and
record keeping. There is a date of the 18th set up to assist.
Alderman Bettencourt asks if all the departments are finally using the same reporting
program.
Chief Scand is hopeful that the fiber optic changeover will take care of some of the
issues that are currently causing problems. He also reminds everyone that assistance
of this nature is available to everyone.
Chief Scandariato would also like to remind everyone that there is a training opportunity
with Pak Tracker. He needs more feedback and wants more trainees. This involves
training in the use of Norwich Fire Apparatus and equipment. The training is performed
at the Norwich house but he is willing to go to the volunteers’ house to give the training.
About the turn-around on 395, it was asked why it isn’t being pursued at the moment.
Alderman Bettencourt replies that it’s currently very tough because of the regulations on
distances between exits, width of the highway, and turning radius of the vehicles that
would be using it. It’s not being forgotten but being tabled for a few months.
b. Chris LaRose from NPU wishes to mention that there was a gas incident on Pearl
Street. A contractor dug through the service of the house. The Fire Department wasn’t
called and it’s believed that was a mistake. The procedures have been updated. It will
probably never happen again. NPU knows and will be more vigilant.
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c. Gene Arters wanted to let everyone know that in about 2 weeks there will be a
special response trailer offered by the Red Cross permanently stationed on the exterior
of the Emergency Management garage on McKinley. It has cots, blankets, wheelchairs,
special needs equipment, special needs cots, and a host of other emergency equipment
for use when needed and the items can be brought to the shelters when the public is
displaced.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt wanted to remind everyone that there have been a lot of
structure fires lately. It is prudent to be aware of your surroundings. Stay safe.
Chief Scandariato mentions that he has a good working relationship with everyone.
When the companies have to come together they work very well together. That
includes investigating the fires afterwards.
Alderman Bettencourt asks if they know if a house is vacant.
Chief Scandariato states that it’s impossible to know. They do have 21 “Do Not Enter”
structures in the City. He can’t even assume those are empty. He also has to be
mindful of any possible Hazardous products. He also believes it would be helpful if
there was the ability to do an Annual inspection.
Chief Blanchard says that there are a lot of great tenants that are great at reporting the
status but they still have to proceed with caution.
Chief Scandariato states that when some businesses close there is not guarantee that
when they leave they take care of their Haz Mat items.
Alderman Braddock asks if the City has any laws or if the State has any mandates that
state how long a structure can be left looking awful, in a state of disrepair, and
abandoned after an incident. How long does the State have to make a declaration of
the property or the Fire Marshall have to make a declaration of the property that
something has to be done with the property?
Chief Scandariato states that this is covered in the City’s charter. For abatement issues
its 30 days and then they can appeal which can take up to a year. But the charter is
very specific in terms of acquiring the property, classifying the structure as something
that has to come down. It is very specific on what they can and cannot do. It could take
years just to get access.
VIII. Adjournment
Alderwoman Sofee Noblick motioned to adjourn, seconded by Alderman H. Tucker
Braddock Jr. All in favor the meeting was adjourned at 8:17 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by Christine Averna
Agenda
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AGENDA – REVISED 3/10/2012
Wednesday April 11, 2012
Yantic Volunteer Fire Department
7:00 P.M.
I. Call to Order – Quorum
II. Approval of Minutes
a. Minutes of March 14, 2012
III. Correspondence
IV. Citizen Comment
V. New Business
VI. Old Business
a. Taftville FD Addition
b. Incentives for Employee Residency.
c. Dry Hydrants update
VII. Other
VIII. Adjournment
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