Public Safety (Subcommittee of the City Council)
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · July 11, 2012
Minutes
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MINUTES
Wednesday July 11, 2012
East Great Plains Fire Department
7:00 P.M.
Committee Members Present
Alderman Mark Bettencourt
Alderwoman Sofee Noblick
Committee Members Not Present
Alderman H. Tucker Braddock Jr.
Administration and Staff Present
Alan H. Bergren, City Manager
Chief Frank Blanchard, Yantic Fire Department
Chief Aaron Westervelt, Laurel Hill Fire Department
Gene Arters, Director OEM
Patrick Daley, Norwich Police Lieutenant / Chief East Great Plains Fire Department
Deputy Chief Bob LaChapelle, Occum Fire Department
Chief Scandariato, Norwich Fire Department
Chief Tim Jencks, Taftville Fire Department
Jake Manke, Deputy Fire Marshal, Norwich
Assistant Chief Paul O’Connell, Yantic Fire Department
Volunteer/Central Fire Departments and Others
Damian Rickard, American Ambulance
Joseph Hebert, Norwich Fire Department
Mr. Dave Mitchell, 35 Hobart Avenue
Mrs. Rhonda Mitchell, 35 Hobart Avenue
Mr. Brian Kobylarz, 16 Hobart Avenue
Mr. Mark Gagne, 41 Park Street
Mr. Jim Small, 87 Cliff Street
Claire Bessette, The Day
Adam Benson, The Bulletin
I. Call to Order – Quorum
Alderman Mark Bettencourt called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m. It was determined a
quorum was present.
II. Approval of Minutes - Minutes of June 13, 2012.
Alderwoman Sofee Noblick motioned to approve the June 13, 2012 minutes, seconded by
Alderman Mark Bettencourt. All in favor, the motion passed.
III. Correspondence
There was none
IV. Citizen Comment
Mr. Dave Mitchell discusses his concerns about the relocation of the soup kitchen to Hope
Street. He felt that the City had cast their neighborhood away. He wanted to know what was
being done for the safety of their neighborhood during this relocation. He also felt
unrepresented by the City, as if the City didn’t care about them. He also read in the paper that
the Diocese was thanking the City which made it sound as if the City helped make this happen.
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Alderman Mark Bettencourt replies that there was no agreement between the Diocese and the
City. The City building official actually said not but the State Building Official overruled the
City’s decision. Norwich did try to prevent it.
Mr. Brian Kobylarz discusses his concerns about the relocation of the soup kitchen to Hope
Street. He believes the first error the City made was when the zoning officer said there was no
issue with a restaurant at Buckingham. Accessory use is subordinate use. It was a school.
The cafeteria was incidental use, not primary. The zoning approval wasn’t done correctly. A
soup kitchen is not equal to a school (cafeteria). The reasoning was that they’re only using a
similar portion (to the cafeteria) for the soup kitchen. There is also the issue of other programs
that are already in the area that have been put in place to help with anonymity for those in the
programs, a feeling of safety and security. Now there are going to be many non-residents
coming to the area. A lot of foot traffic. He feels that this will ruin the ability to police the area
– these new people will be reasonably there. He felt that this whole thing was done in a shady
way.
Mr. Jim Small discusses his concerns about the relocation of the soup kitchen to Hope Street.
He feels that an increased police presence is not going to be enough. These new people in
the neighborhood will have reason to be there. Unless the police stay for a while and maintain
a presence. This is going to drop house values and yet the tax bills keep going up. There
needs to be re-evaluation.
Mr. Brian Kobylarz agrees about the house values, and also believes it will also impact
business owners as well. He also believes there will be a squatter issue. There is a lot of
squatter area available very close to dwellings that are lived in.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt reminds them that if they see something they have to call the City
Manager’s office. If the City doesn’t know about the issues they can’t address them.
V. New Business
Chief Scandariato asks for the floor so Deputy Fire Marshal Jake Manke can discuss a new
software program that is meant to streamline inspections. It works with all existing software.
Each inspector would carry an iPad with a checklist. That would dispatch immediately and
shows what properties are safe and which are unsafe. The licensing fees are per house not
per computer device. New London is very happy with the program. He spoke with the
University of New Haven about getting an intern to do data entry. It would cost $16,000. That
would include upgrades.
a. Laurel Hill Issues
Chief Daley informed the committee that the Maitai investigation is continuing.
Alderman Bettencourt and City Manager Bergren wanted to know about sending a letter to
Liquor Control. Is this considered a nuisance business?
Chief Daley states that it could happen but there is cost involved and it is a long process. The
information required has to show how each step in the process and attempt failed.
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b. Soup Kitchen Relocation
Captain Daley states that there will be heavy police presence. He spoke with many residents
up in the area. The soup kitchen representative is very sensitive to the neighbors’ concerns.
The police are also volunteering to add coverage. The Cliff Street block watch program is also
starting again. Residents are urged to call and email. Keeping the lines of communication
open is key. They are prepared to deploy additional officers immediately.
Mr. David Mitchell doesn’t support this being put in a residential area.
Mr. Jim Small believes that loitering will be a big problem.
Captain Daley says he reached out to Hartford and was trained on trespassing. Walking is
okay but sitting is not. Jillian (soup kitchen representative) also wants to know that everyone is
being proper. She wants to do good work without disturbing the neighborhood.
Mr. Brian Kobylarz hopes the walking traffic patterns will be watched. The Oak Street
Cemetery is already damaged. He is concerned it will become a hangout.
Alderman Bettencourt asks Captain Daley to convey to the Chief that this is a priority.
Captain Daley states that this is already a priority. Every day. Asks that all those involved
keep giving feedback.
VI. Old Business
Alderwoman Sofee Noblick mentions that the incentive program is still being worked on.
VII. Other
a. Chief Scandariato brings up 312 Boswell Avenue action. There is a bio diesel problem. He
believes that through the blight office they may be able to enforce the letter of the law to get it
cleaned up.
b. Chief Scandariato brings up attack planning. They are going to have a plan they will be
handing out.
He also mentions that the Fit Test Machine. It has been calibrated and is open to all
volunteers.
Chief Daley invites all to tour the training property and to see the apparatus.
VIII. Adjournment
Alderwoman Sofee Noblick motioned to adjourn, seconded by Alderman Mark Bettencourt. All
in favor the meeting was adjourned at 7:58 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by Christine Averna
Agenda
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AGENDA
Wednesday July 11, 2012
East Great Plains Volunteer Fire Department
7:00 P.M.
I. Call to Order – Quorum
II. Approval of Minutes
a. Minutes of June 13, 2012
III. Correspondence
IV. Citizen Comment
V. New Business
a. Laurel Hill Neighborhood Issues
b. Soup Kitchen Relocation Issues
VI. Old Business
VII. Other
VIII. Adjournment
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