Public Safety (Subcommittee of the City Council)
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · May 8, 2013
Minutes
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MINUTES
Wednesday May 8, 2013
Laurel Hill Fire Department
7:00 P.M.
Committee Members Present
Alderman Mark Bettencourt
Alderman H. Tucker Braddock Jr.
Committee Members Not Present
Alderwoman Sofee Noblick
Administration and Staff Present
Alan H. Bergren, City Manager
Chief Scandariato, Norwich Fire Department
Chief Timothy Jencks, Taftville Fire Department
Chief Frank Blanchard, Yantic Fire Department
Patrick Daley, Norwich Police Lieutenant / Chief East Great Plains Fire Department
Chief Aaron Westervelt, Laurel Hill Fire Dept.
Gene Arters, Director OEM
Deputy Chief Bob LaChapelle, Occum Fire Department
Volunteer/Central Fire Departments and Others
Chris LaRose, Norwich Public Utilities
Jerry Strange, Laurel Hill Fire Department
Ken Leo, Yantic Fire Department
Carroll Spaulding, Occum Fire Department
Scott Stanley, Occum Fire Department
Darrell Dunnum, Occum Fire Department
Mark R. Gagne, Norwich Resident
Anne Vitouladitis, Norwich Resident
Paula Vitouladitis, Norwich Resident
Brian F. Kobylarz, Norwich Resident
I. Call to Order – Quorum
Alderman Mark Bettencourt called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m. It was determined
a quorum is present.
II. Approval of Minutes - Minutes of April 10, 2013.
Alderman H. Tucker Braddock Jr. motioned to approve the April 10, 2013 minutes,
seconded by Alderman Mark Bettencourt. All in favor the motion passed unanimously.
III. Correspondence – 395 Turn Around letter from City Manager Alan H Bergren to the
State and their reply.
Public Safety Meeting Minutes
May 8, 2013
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IV. Citizen Comment –
Brian Kobylarz addresses the committee to ask them to encourage the Council to make
an ordinance to make the use of public streets and areas require involvement from the
Police department. He handed out pictures of St. Patrick’s Day when the Harp and
Dragon was cooking on the streets with propane tanks in front of the cooking area they
set up which was in the street with no barriers to protect the tanks from being hit by
vehicles which was a danger to both traffic and pedestrians (see attached photo’s).
Alderman Mark Bettencourt asks City Manager Alan H Bergren if he thinks the street
barbecue was permitted.
City Manager Alan Bergren states that it probably was. He would have to check with
planning. They may have had a zoning permit.
Brian Kobylarz states that he showed the pictures at the local fire house and they stated
they didn’t know about it.
Alderman H. Tucker Braddock Jr. motions to suspend the rules to add the Soup Kitchen
to the agenda under old business, seconded by Alderman Mark Bettencourt. All in favor
the motion passed unanimously.
V. New Business
a. Budget Items – Spare Fire Apparatus in the City
Chief Blanchard states that Engine 33 is failing. It is getting repairs but there is a 3 – 4
week time frame. He looked for others to fill the need. He can’t find any and this is a
long duration without it and the other trucks can’t handle the apparatus that Engine 33
carries. He spoke with John Raymond. There is 1 spare truck. There is a need for
spares. Maybe when a truck is retired it should be kept as a spare.
Alderman H. Tucker Braddock Jr. asks if there has been any luck sharing with other
houses in the community.
Chief Blanchard states he talked with other houses. They don’t have anything that
could handle the equipment that Engine 33 carries nor any that could handle what it is
needed for.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt states he is concerned about losing another. Being down 1
truck that is a busy piece of equipment already makes that a concern.
Chief Blanchard states it is a busy house. It makes it tough to be quick.
VI. Old Business
Public Safety Meeting Minutes
May 8, 2013
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a. 395 Turn-Around
Alderman Mark Bettencourt states he’s not sure what the next step is. They are not
budging on this issue. Maybe it can be pitched as limited use.
Pat Daley states that this will not get done without legislation.
Chief Blanchard states they met with the legislators. Maybe it’s time to reach out to
them again.
b. Update on FD radios onto fiber project
Chris LaRose with NPU states that Plain Hill and PD are done. They’re working on
Orchard Street now. Installing EPS’s now.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt asks how big the EPS’s are and what’s their voltage.
Chris LaRose states he will let him know. He also states that additional work is needed
at the Occum house and Backus. There are space constraints. They also came up
with network issues and they are working on them now.
c. Discuss the City Involvement for the Statewide drill
OEM Gene Arters states that the scenarios haven’t changed. Our involvement is to
open the EOC with a unified command and open shelters. This will be very easy for
Region 4.
He also states that WEB EOC is going through an overhaul to be more user friendly.
The state is looking to do a system like the VEOCI system that was presented at the
Public Safety Meeting in February. And Dr. Gray released his hurricane forecast. He’s
forecasting 18 named storms including 9 hurricanes, for of category 3 or higher. Maybe
the June exercise can be used to tabletop a practice exercise.
Chris LaRose agrees that it would make sense to use the time to do something
productive.
c. Soup Kitchen Status
Brian Kobylarz brings up the increased traffic versus when it was a School. He was
distressed about a report from Chief Fusaro that was not an accurate reflection of the
increased traffic but was in fact his opinion. He stated that he found this information out
when he made an FOI request.
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May 8, 2013
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Brian Kobylarz states that as a businessman this does not look goo to his clients. He
states that it isn’t right that there are Soup Kitchen clients sleeping on the sidewalks and
taking apart computer monitors in the street (see attached photos).
Alderman Mark Bettencourt asks for dates and times of incidents.
Brian Kobylarz replies that PD has been very good about responding. They have been
seen in the Cemetery with flashlights every evening trying to keep the vandalism down.
He also states that Barry of Public Works has truly taken an interest in fixing the
damage.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt states that it is important that everyone calls when there is a
problem. Keep vigilant. Otherwise he’s not sure what else can be done. Patrol has
been increased. He asks how the police presence is. Also, is he reporting to St. Vin or
just to PD. Maybe Jillian should be a resource.
Brian Kobylarz replies that sometimes an event will break up before PD can arrive (5
minutes). And he tried calling Jillian but now he’s calling PD instead. Jillian tried to
keep things quiet if he called her. Jillian has tried talking to her clients to keep the
pressure down.
Mark Gagne agrees that the concern with calling Jillian is that it doesn’t create a paper
trail or public knowledge. That lack of a paper trail gets used against the community
with the lack of calls to PD. There is heavy traffic between 8 and 10 am and 1 to 2:30
pm up towards Main. It gets loud and obnoxious. And on a daily basis at least 60 walk
by his house.
Brian Kobylarz adds that about the traffic, in the Cliff Street area there is a higher
volume driving the wrong way.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt asks when and how often.
Mark Gagne replies that it’s mostly the mornings.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt asks Pat Daley to have patrols park there to enforce the
traffic laws.
Paula Vitouladitis has 3 points she wishes to bring up. 1) She is constantly picking up
beer and booze bottles. This was never a problem before. 2) When they bring their Pit
Bulls they let them run loose in the parking lot. 3) On Friday April 26 at 12:30 pm there
were many people at the glass doorway entrance. The patrons were trying to hide a
belligerent drunken man and then they put him in Jillian’s car and she drove off.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt states that Pat Daley has been taking notes and will be
looking into this.
Public Safety Meeting Minutes
May 8, 2013
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Pat Daley states that the Dog Warden will probably want to get into this.
VII. Other –
City Manager Alan Bergren states that at the Mayors 1 City Forum there was a
discussion afterwards about the problems with the numbering in the Sunnyside area. A
postal rep and the Assessor and Barry are working together to resolve this. Anyone
unfamiliar (Police, Fire, Ambulance) you won’t be able to find it. It was suggested to
have a Public Safety meeting with Postal Officials at the Yantic Fire Department.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt asks City Manager Alan Bergren to contact the Postal rep
to set this up.
Chris LaRose asks to be kept in the loop on this upcoming meeting as NPU will need to
know too.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt asks if there are people opposed.
Chief Blanchard states that some residents are concerned.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt wants the residents invited to the meeting.
City Manager Alan Bergren states that they want to give sensible permanent addresses
so mail can be delivered and it’s the City’s responsibility to number them
Chief Blanchard replies that maybe we can use the E911 numbering. The Mayor wants
a forum for residents to be informed.
Alderman H. Tucker Braddock Jr. states it will be good to have an open forum to hear
everyone’s concerns.
b. Alderman H. Tucker Braddock Jr. asks how apparatus works going across the
bridge.
Ken Leo states they’ve never had any trouble there.
Chief Blanchard states that the bridge is rated for the apparatus.
VIII. Adjournment
Upon a motion by Alderman H. Tucker Braddock Jr, seconded by Alderman Mark
Bettencourt, the meeting was unanimously adjourned at 8:00 pm
Respectfully submitted by Christine Averna
Pictures from the Harp & Dragon on St. Patrick’s Day
Soup Kitchen Photos
Agenda
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AGENDA
May 8, 2013
Occum Volunteer Fire Department
7:00 P.M.
I. Call to Order – Quorum
II. Approval of Minutes
a. Minutes of April 10, 2013
III. Correspondence
a. 395 Turn Around letter from City Manager Alan Bergren to the State and their reply.
IV. Citizen Comment
V. New Business
a. Budget Items – Spare Fire Apparatus in the City
VI. Old Business
a. 395 Turn Around
b. Update on FD radios onto fiber project
c. discuss the City involvement for the Statewide drill
VII. Other
VIII. Adjournment
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