Public Safety (Subcommittee of the City Council)
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · May 21, 2013
Minutes
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday May 21, 2013
Yantic Volunteer Fire Department
7:00 P.M.
Committee Members Present
Alderman Mark Bettencourt
Alderman H. Tucker Braddock Jr.
Committee Members Not Present
Alderwoman Sofee Noblick
Administration and Staff Present
Mayor Peter Nystrom
Alan H. Bergren, City Manager
Corporation Counsel, Michael Driscoll
Barry Ellison, Public Works Director
Chief Frank Blanchard, Yantic Fire Department
Patrick Daley, Norwich Police Lieutenant / Chief East Great Plains Fire Department
Donna Ralston, Norwich Assessor
Deputy Chief Warren Mocek
Damien Rickard, American Ambulance
Volunteer/Central Fire Departments and Others
Ray Henry, Yantic Fire Department
Bill Moleski, Postal Service
Joe Brule, Resident, 70 Sunnyside East
Al Jonasch, Resident, 9 Sunnyside East Road Ext
Dawn Muscarella, Resident, 61 Sunnyside East
Mary Briones, Resident, 61 Sunnyside East
Becky Cady, Resident, 67 Sunnyside East
Rene Muckle, Resident, 68 Sunnyside East
Pat Stolz, Resident, 42 Sunnyside West Road
Mark Bialowans, Resident, 1 Sunnyside Street
Lisa Slaga, Resident, 43 Sunnyside West Road
Randy Slaga, Resident, 43 Sunnyside West Road
Lisa Bouchard, Resident, 74 Sunnyside East Road
Edna Gimbert, Resident, 78 Sunnyside Street
Ronalyn Cordova, Resident, 101 Sunnyside Street
Jill-Karen Redding, Resident, 87 Sunnyside Street
Sue Small, Resident, 82 Sunnyside Street
Bill Small, Resident, 82 Sunnyside Street
Ron Stoltz, Resident, 42 Sunnyside West Road
Pam Ultrian, Resident, 97 Sunnyside Street
I. Call to Order – Quorum
Alderman Mark Bettencourt called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m. It was determined
a quorum is present.
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II. Citizen Comment –
The residents present are confused as to what is happening and why. Upon motion of
H. Tucker Braddock Jr., seconded by Alderman Mark Bettencourt, it is unanimously
voted to move the Citizen Comment period to be heard after the discussion under Old
Business.
III. Old Business
a. Discuss addresses and streets to accommodate 911 safety and postal delivery in
Sunnyside Area of Yantic
City Manager Alan H. Bergren states that the Yantic Post Office is closed. Many of the
residents of the Sunnyside area opted for street delivery. The City wants to change the
numbering of this area to correct for sequencing problems that police/fire/ambulance
experience as well as to become 911 Compliant.
Bill Moleski of the Postal Service states he was matching post office addresses versus
the Assessors addresses and found the numbers don’t match up. It’s necessary to
make the street names and numbers match. Right now everyone is a PO box in the
postal system.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt asks how this affects the Assessor’s office.
Norwich Assessor Donna Ralston replies that since 1981 911 has been in place. The
Sunnyside area has been a problem for the 911 system for a long time. For safety, the
street numbers have to be 911 compliant. It’s true that current people know how to find
the residences, but as people retire and new people come in this will no longer be true.
Director of Public Works Barry Ellison states that it’s not clear who will be in charge of
doing the numbering. Public Works numbers new properties but has never had to work
with existing properties like this. However, if police/fire/ambulance need to find them
then we need to make this happen.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt asks Deputy Chief Mocek if they’re being found now.
Deputy Chief Mocek replies that from personal experience it was easy to get lost and
confused. We prefer to arrive in a timely fashion rather than getting lost and searching.
Anyone not familiar with the neighborhood will get lost. When responding to something
that requires silent approach there is a tactical advantage that is lost when having to
light up each house to determine the address of each residence.
Damian Rickard of American Ambulance ditto’s this statement. If we can’t find an
address response will be delayed.
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Chief Frank Blanchard states that for public safety we have new members who can’t
find what they are looking for. We set up people ahead of the responders so we can
point the way. We can’t always do that. It’s not always possible to get to the
neighborhood first.
II. Citizen Comment – agenda item brought forward from above.
Joe Bruell, 70 Sunnyside – Thank you for getting us informed and here. Any effort that
gets my mail delivered to my home please do it. The temporary measures helped. My
experience has been disservice. I look forward to this being resolved. Even online
ordering is tough without valid addresses. This is the foundation for progress. First
question, my deed says 70 Sunnyside. Will that still be valid?
Corporation Counsel replies that the physical description of his property will still point to
the correct address.
Joe Bruell - Second question, what about my mortgage company – who will be in
charge of this?
City Assessor Donna Ralston replies that it will be herself and the Tax Collector
Joe Bruell - Third question, do I need to be proactive with my mortgage company?
City Assessor Donna Ralston replies that they will give him a letter with the current and
new addresses and that can be sent to the mortgage company.
Al Jonasch, 9 Sunnyside East Road Ext – Built his house 40 years ago. The plans had
to be site specific. Public Works assigned that number. They stated that it was in case
the engineer wanted to change the addresses around. The house is not really on any
street. It’s actually off the public way. Is my address going to be changed as well?
Alderman Mark Bettencourt replies that his understanding is that it’s going to change for
the 911 system.
Public Works Director Barry Ellison states that he has Ext and we want them to turn
onto the road you’re on.
Al Jonasch – I’m still waiting for signs since 4 years ago. That spoils my faith in the
City. There is a lack of common sense being used.
Ron Stoltz, 42 Sunnyside West Road – Thank you Mayor Nystrom for getting this done.
There are 4 houses on Sunnyside West. They’re all on the same side.
Lisa Buchard, 74 Sunnyside East – What is the plan before we go further.
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Public Works Director Barry Ellison replies that this public comment is needed. In a
perfect world there wouldn’t be all the Sunnyside’s together like this. Currently I don’t
think there is a plan to change the street names.
Joe Bruell – How can I still be Sunnyside East when it is a separate road off of
Sunnyside East?
(Not Signed In) Gifford, 78 Sunnyside Street – Is this going to create an issue with our
mail. Can this be done timely so it doesn’t require multiple changes?
Bill Moleski, Postal Service, states that everyone has been on active delivery since last
Saturday. Sunnyside Street is not changing. The East, West, and Ext streets need to
be updated.
Al Jonasch – How long is this going to take?
Mark Bialowans, 1 Sunnyside Street – What is the procedure for feet of frontage to
house number?
Public Works Director Barry Ellison replies 50’.
Norwich Tax Assessor Donna Ralston replies that in some rural areas it is sometimes
100’
City Manager Alan Bergren states that there are signs coming soon. If everyone could
please stay and meet with the Postal Representative and the Assessor so that maybe
they can know their address tonight.
Alderman Mark Bettencourt reminds everyone that if every other street is odd/even
except here a new police/fire/ambulance person will have trouble finding the place.
VIII. Adjournment
Upon a motion by Alderman H. Tucker Braddock Jr, seconded by Alderman Mark
Bettencourt, the meeting was unanimously adjourned at 7:57 pm
Respectfully submitted by Christine Averna
Agenda
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE SPECIAL MEETING AGENDA
May 21, 2013
Yantic Volunteer Fire Department
7:00 P.M.
I. Call to Order – Quorum
III. Citizen Comment
IV. Old Business
a. Discuss addresses and streets to accommodate 911 safety and postal
delivery in Sunnyside Area of Yantic.
V. Adjournment
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