Public Safety (Subcommittee of the City Council)
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · October 10, 2018
Minutes
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MINUTES
Wednesday October 10th, 2018
Central Fire Department
10 N Thames Street, Norwich
7:00 PM
Committee Members Present: Alderman William Nash, Alderman Joseph A.
DeLucia and Alderwoman Joanne Philbrick.
Committee Members Absent: None.
Administration and Staff Present: Mayor Peter Nystrom, Alderwoman Stacy
Gould, Captain Jim Veiga, Norwich Police Department, Joey Hundley, Director of
Operations, American Ambulance and Chris LaRose, Operations Manager, Norwich
Public Utilities.
Volunteer/Central Fire Departments and Others: Taftville Chief Timothy Jencks
and Assistant Chief William Hadam; Norwich Battalion Chief Gregory Despathy,
Captain Marc Benjamin, Lieutenant Jake Manke, Mike Dzavit and Scott Merchant; East
Great Plain Chief Keith Milton; Occum Chief Bob LaChapelle, Chief Engineer Carroll
Spaulding, Les Shall and Nancy Shall; Laurel Hill Captain Pete Clark and Michael
Carlos; and Yantic: Chief Frank Blanchard and Frank Cilley.
Citizens Present: Brian Kobylarz of 16 Hobart Avenue.
I. Call to Order and Quorum:
Alderman Nash called the meeting to order at 7:01 PM. There was a quorum present.
II. Approval of Minutes: Minutes of Wednesday September 12, 2018
Alderman Nash motioned, seconded by Alderman DeLucia, to approve the Wednesday
September 12, 2018 meeting minutes. The motion passed unanimously.
III. Correspondence: None.
IV. Citizen Comment:
a) Brian Kobylarz of 16 Hobart Avenue wished to report on the sex
offender topic from previous meetings; he is aware that the state is now
in the process of revamping its sex offender databases due to
inconsistencies in their own accounting methods as the incorrect data
could lead to disadvantages in economic development and overall state
agency data. Mr. Kobylarz also wanted to mention that at the previous
meeting the Norwich Police Department reported it would be putting
more men out to track and monitor the sex offender issue which is also
an improvement.
V. Old Business:
a) Apparatus/ Equipment Financing: – City Manager John Salomone
was not in attendance but Chief Frank Blanchard wished to repot the
truck bond is still in the bid process and he has a meeting with the City
Manager and Mr. Hathaway on October 16th at 11AM and extended the
invitation to Public Safety Committee Council Members to join them as
he feels the bid process has taken far too long and is going in the wrong
direction. Chief Blanchard has serious concerns with the product that is
going to come out of the bid as currently there is nothing set up for
communications within the specifications and that isn’t something that
can be optioned out. Alderman Nash responded that he believe Mr.
Salomone stated that the trucks were already out to bid and Chief
Blanchard clarified that while they’re being advertised with the
addendum the bids don’t actually open until November 5th. Chief
Timothy Jencks agreed with Chief Blanchard regarding the length of
time this process has taken and how convoluted it has become. Chief
Jencks said he had similar issues as Yantic with things being added into
the specifications that were never requested and items being optioned
out that will cost the city more money to add the items back onto the
trucks than it would be to purchase them from the start. Chief Keith
Milton added that he too was under the same impression as the other
Chiefs that from when they had met with the committee, City Manager
and Mr. Hathaway the missing items would be added back into the
addendum but that is not what occurred when it was published. Safety
Officer Ed Martin of Laurel Hill Fire Department addressed the
Committee stating the City needs to take this experience as a learning
lesson as the current method for purchasing this trucks he feels has been
a great failure and has cost tax payers thousands of dollars. Mr. Martin
said at the current rate the departments will likely not see a new truck
until 2020 and these apparatuses should have been purchased a decade
ago.
Alderwoman Philbrick responded that she agreed the process has gone
on far too long as the initial bond was given a vote of confidence by
voters and it has been greatly mishandled since then. Alderwoman
Philbrick called on someone in the city to be held accountable and to get
organized. She also requested that Alderman Nash contact City Manager
John Salomone the following morning as this meeting greatly needed his
attendance. Chief Blanchard wished to clarify that the specifications the
departments turned in were ready to publish with options built in but
now the vendors themselves are confused as to where the bid stands and
they tend to raise prices when that happens. Alderman Nash responded
that Mr. Salomone did advise him he would not be in attendance to the
meeting due to illness but that Mr. Nash himself takes full responsibility
for the current situation as Chairman of the Committee. Alderman Nash
said he stands by the decision to purchase the trucks in bulk but also
believes things should have gotten ordered as adjustments could have
been made once the bid comes in. Alderman Nash said he would get in
contact with Mr. Salomone to get answers and would put forth a
resolutions if need be. He greatly apologized for the cost the tax payers
have endured because of this process.
VI. New Business:
a) Norwich Public Utilities Update – Operation Manager Chris LaRose
reported that the Fairview tank would be online the following day putting
the system at 100% functionality for the winter season. Mr. Ellison added
the reservoirs are also at 100% due to recent rain and they are continuing
flushing low pressure systems through the month of October with a goal
to finish before Thanksgiving. He reported the current LED streetlight
project is 85% complete and should be finished in the next two weeks.
b) Emergency Management: Lieutenant Jake Manke reported there was
flooding in Yantic during large rainstorm but Yantic Fire Department,
Public Works, Public Utilities and the Police all worked together to make
cleanup as success and DEMAS is conducting an independent damage
assessment as the region has sustained significant damage due to the
flooding. He added that the Yantic Fire Department will also be
participating in the study to see if they can receive any reimbursement
funds as they sustained damage as well. Lieutenant Manke stated that the
last meeting before the Host Community Reception Center Exercise is
coming up this week with the rehearsal set for Monday October 15th from
1PM to 4PM and the receptions slated for November 3rd and November
17th.
c) American Ambulance: None.
d) Norwich Police Department: Captain Jim Veiga stated they
responded to 3,100 calls in the last month with 140 arrests and 150
accidents. Captain Veiga reported the 7 new police vehicles are on order
which account for about 1/3 of the department’s fleet. Captain Veiga
added that Chief Ferace has retired so they plan to start posting job
openings in mid-December and they are still working on the radio system
updates with the referendum coming up in November.
e) Fire House Status Updates:
Taftville: Chief Timothy Jencks reported the Fire Department had a
busy month with 68 calls including mutual aid to Baltic and Lisbon, all
DOT inspections have been completed for the 11 apparatuses and they
have members enrolled in the EMR class. Chief Jencks said they have
been working with Mr. Walker from NPU on pricing to replace the
furnace in the station as that is an item that will be coming up for
replacement and while the station’s addition is down to the punch list
items. The Chief said he met with City Manager John Salomone regarding
the parking lot repaving and the possibility of taking over the Taftville
tennis court for additional parking but instead of paving to consider road
milling so they are planning to meet with engineers as well. Chief Jencks
reported they had a few unexpected purchases such as replacement tires
for Tower 25 and $8,000 on replacement combustible gas meters as
although they were only 8 years old they have been unable to find parts or
support for the product.
East Great Plain: Chief Keith Milton reported EGP had 90 calls in the
last month, they are holding routine Tuesday night trainings and they
also have members in the EMR class. Chief Milton added they are making
headway with the fire escape replacement and are currently waiting to
hear back from NPU.
Occum: Chief Bob LaChapelle reported that they have two members in
the EMR class and one in the instructor class. Chief LaChapelle said there
is a wild fire training at the station for the upcoming weekend and they
are planning a truck and traffic training as well.
Yantic: Chief Frank Blanchard stated their membership is still at 58; the
generator of their apparatus Engine 32 burnt up in the September floods
and is currently out for maintenance quote while Engine 33 responded to
Salem mutual aid and returned with a major battery failure. Chief
Blanchard said the apparatus was out of service for two days at fleet
maintenance. He stated they responded to 58 calls in the last month, four
being back-to-back and seven mutual aid. Chief Blanchard reported the
station’s Fire Marshall Abatement project is out to bid, four bidders
attended and the pre-bids are due in the next week. Chief Blanchard
stated Yantic has capital money available for parking lot replacement and
they are working with Public Works on getting the project out to bid in
the next few weeks. He reported that the station did receive significant
damage from the September floods with about 9 inches of water in the
basement and said they are still in service but their boiler and various
furnishes were damaged. Chief Blanchard said they are working with
their insurance company but the water leakage is an issue that needs to
be addressed in the future. Chief Blanchard reported they had a few
unexpected purchases including sub-pump and iPad replacements and he
is beginning the budget process with the finance department regarding
capital items they’ve been listing at each meeting.
Alderman DeLucia asked if there is anything that can be done to better
protect the fire house from the Yantic River. Chief Blanchard responded
that through the years there’s been several good ideas regarding the issue
including an effort from SCOGGs who assessed the property then
received a retention system design from people in Hartford and put in for
a grant where Yantic was ranked the number two priority, however it
never received funding.
Laurel Hill: Captain Pete Clark reported Laurel assisted in CERT during
Yantic floods and they have two members enrolled in Fire 2 classes.
Captain Clark also added they have a boot drive coming up on November
10th from 10AM – 2PM to benefit St. Vincent De Paul Soup Kitchen.
Norwich: Battalion Chief Gregory Despathy reported that the various
Battalion Chiefs have been acting as rotating chiefs, Scott Belleville has
been promoted to lieutenant, recruit Davis is enrolled in the fire academy
and they are working with Human Resources to fill the remaining fire
academy class vacancies. Chief Despathy stated Norwich responded to
195 incidents in the past month, 69 fire-related and 126 EMS with many
of them overlapping and also assisted in mutual aid efforts with an
average response time of 2 minutes 53 seconds. Chief Despathy said they
are expecting the Marine 1 unit received from the Port Authority Grant to
FEMA in early December as it was pushed back by the vendor. Norwich is
planning joint and in-house training once it arrives. Chief Despathy
stated they have been replacing the AEDs in the apparatuses and have no
critical needs at this time but Fleet Maintenance has let them know their
oldest Fire Marshall vehicle will need replacing in the future as it has rust
and structural issues that cannot be repaired.
VI. Other:
a) Recommendation for Occum Fire Department:
Alderman Nash made a motion to present their recommendation to
Occum Fire Department seconded by Alderwoman Philbrick. Alderman
DeLucia asked Occum Chief LaChapelle what exactly the fire house was
requesting the city to purchase. Chief LaChapelle responded the items
they are looking for are struts, extra turnout gear and improved lighting
in the station bay. Chief LaChapelle said the struts relate to stabilizing
vehicles when they are called on site so they can respond immediately
instead of waiting for backup assistance, the lighting in the bay is not
adequate to get the truck in and out and there isn’t enough turnout gear
available for members to go on back-to-back calls. Alderman Nash asked
the Chief why these items were not included in the budget and Chief
LaChapelle responded his department was attempting to cut back on
spending however after the recent cuts they are at the point where they’ve
taken too much of a hit. Alderwoman Philbrick responded that as the
departments know that within the budget there is funding put aside for
capital projects and while she is aware that fund has depleted over the
years and recognizes that the Occum Fire Department typically does not
put in requests there is a budget process for a reason so these things
should be included from the start. Alderwoman Philbrick added that she
has heard Alderman Nash state at each meeting that if there are critical
needs the Committee needs to hear about to budget time and she does not
recall Chief LaChapelle bringing up any of these issues in the past. Chief
LaChapelle added that the items are being requested now because he
heard from Mayor Peter Nystrom and Josh in Finance that the City would
be able to assist Occum and reminded that Occum Fire Department is one
of the lowest funded stations each year. Alderwoman Philbrick stated
while that was kind of Mayor Nystrom and Josh issues arise when we
deviate from the established process.
Officer Ed Martin of Laurel Hill Fire Department added that when the
Committee seeing the departments’ budgets there are already drastically
reduced from the original requests being made and with the new Cancer
awareness regarding washing firefighter gear they are now being told to
fully wash gear after smoke exposure which takes about 24 hours so the
Committee will likely see more requests for additional turnout gear.
Alderman Nash asked for a show of hands of how many departments
would need this gear in the future and all departments did. Alderman
DeLucia stated the reason that Alderman Nash repeatedly asks to hear
critical needs in advance is so when the budget comes there are less cuts
and citizens are able to hear these issues before they hit the City Council.
Alderman DeLucia assured the Committee’s apprehension has nothing to
do specifically with the Occum Fire Department or its expenditures.
Mayor Peter Nystrom wished to explain that Chief LaChapelle came to
himself and Josh simply to discuss his needs and did not specifically ask
them to put forth a resolution however they, and the council members he
also spoke with, felt it was a critical need to have the turnout gear as well
as the struts which are essentially to helping trapped citizens out of a
vehicle quickly without waiting for backup. Mayor Nystrom stated Chief
LaChapelle is constantly bringing in young recruits and those members
deserve the proper gear to keep them safe.
Alderman Nash put forth a motion to give a positive recommendation to
the City Council regarding Occum Fire Department. Alderman DeLucia
seconded, the motion passed unanimously.
b) Personal Protection Equipment:
Alderman DeLucia stated he has gotten more than a few calls and emails
that firehouse members are in the hot zones at active fires are not in PPE
gear and wanted to confirm that the departments are in agreement that
anyone in a hot zone must be in PPE gear per operational guidelines.
Chiefs agreed unanimously.
VII. Future Agenda Items:
a) IMC Bridge Update
VIII. Adjournment:
Upon a motion by Alderman Nash, seconded by Alderman DeLucia, the meeting was
unanimously adjourned at 8:11 pm
Respectfully Submitted,
Katherine Rose
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