School Building Committee (2020)
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · April 19, 2022
Minutes
School Building Committee (2020)
Regular Meeting
City Hall Room 335
100 Broadway
And Virtually via ZOOM
Tuesday April 19, 2022
6:30 PM
Committee Members Present: Chairman Mark Bettencourt, Alderwoman Stacy
Gould (ZOOM), President Pro Tem Joe DeLucia, William Hull, Peter Gauthier and
Gregory Carabine, Cindy Beauregard (ZOOM), Mark Kulos (ZOOM) and Christine
DiStasio (ZOOM).
Committee Members Absent: Mark Adams and Gregory Ballassi.
Ex-Officio Members Present: None.
Citizens Present: None.
I. Call to Order and Quorum: Chairman Mark Bettencourt called the
meeting to order at 6:31 PM.
II. Approval of Minutes from Previous Meetings: Peter Gauthier made a
motion to approve the April 6, 2022 special meeting minutes, with some minor
adjustments. William Hull seconded. The chairman called the roll of members
present and all were in favor. The motion passed unanimously.
III. Update by DRA representatives Jim Barrett and/or Greg Smolley:
1. Building Programming 2. Building Program Test Fits 3. Existing Site Evaluations,
4. Next Steps, 5. April 26 public meeting
Gregory Smolley recapped the next steps listed for DRA to take from the April 6,
2022 Special Meeting. Gregory Smolley stated they were still working to touch base
with Chief Daley but that they received agreement from central administration on
grade configuration for pre-k to fifth grade and sixth to eighth grade. Gregory
Smolley stated they are awaiting to hear if pre-k and kindergarten will be full day
and district-wide, but are planning ahead as if that will be the case. Gregory Smolley
stated DRA considered many of the elementary schools but focused their study on
three of them. Gregory Smolley stated the committee would need to decide which of
the presented program guidelines they would like DRA to pursue (OSCG&R, MSBA
or Other) and agree on a site plan once the test fits had been reviewed.
Gregory Smolley explained that DRA took three approaches to their study
predicated upon curricular and pedagogical needs:
● the Office of School Construction Grants and Review, which would maximize
the district’s reimbursement;
● the Massachusetts Schools Building Authority, to serve as a check and
balance;
● and a Working Program developed by DRA, which accounted for the
education curriculum and pedagogies.
Gregory Smolley explained the comparison values for the study. Gregory Smolley
explained the OSCG&R approach can be somewhat prescriptive in areas and is very
tight with programming allowances. Gregory Smolley stated the MSBA programming
was less prescriptive but still established, with reasonable programming allowances.
Gregory Smolley stated the Working Program developed by DRA was established
through educational programming with the district leadership and uses the OSCG&R
guidelines as a basis. Gregory Smolley stated the working program fell between the
OSCG&R guidelines and MSBA approach. Gregory Smolley stated the working plan
would provide a starting point for developing a building program for the city’s Master
Plan.
Gregory Smolley explained that DRA established comparative programming for
seven schools with 300 students each, four schools of 525 students each and three
schools of 700 students each. Gregory Smolley discussed the breakdown of square
footage allotted per area type based on the three different sets of student enrollment
numbers. Gregory Smolley further detailed the types and sizes of classrooms
accounted for in the working model compared to the OSCG&R compliant and MSBA
comparative numbers, for the three different programming approaches.
Gregory Smolley continued onto the test fits which compared the OSCG&R compliant
and working program to the existing spaces. Gregory Smolley explained that the goal
of the test fits was to identify the programmed spaces that are not accommodated for
and to provide a basis for the discussion of the potential of each of the buildings.
Gregory Smolley discussed the test fit values and how they applied to each school
within the study, for each of the three programming approaches. Gregory Smolley
went through the program assessment for each approach based on the three
programming options.
Gregory Smolley listed the observations made by DRA on the 300 student test fits as
none of the schools have the adequate classroom space as currently configured, only
two of the schools have adequate cafeteria space and only one had a properly sized
gymnasium.
Gregory Smolley reported that DRA noted for the 525 student test fit model,
compliance with the OSCG&R guidelines would be difficult and none of the buildings
have spaces required for the working program.
Gregory Smolley noted that the 700 student test fit showed that none of the buildings
have spaces as required for the OSCG&R program nor the working program. Gregory
Smolley noted that state funding would look at how close the proposed buildings are
to the stated guidelines.
Gregory Smolley stated that DRA next took the OSCG&R guidelines and compared
them to the existing buildings and sites; specifically Moriarty, Uncas, Veterans and
Stanton Elementary Schools. Gregory Smolley added that DRA also worked to
identify wetlands, watercourses and other natural or manmade constraints that may
affect the sites. Gregory Smolley went through the land and building requirements
for OSCG&R and what the sites currently consisted of. Gregory Smolley discussed
topography, layout, and pertaining environmental restraints of schools identified.
Discussion ensued.
Gregory Smolley outlined that the next steps for DRA would be:
● connect with Chief Patrick Daley;
● confirm if pre-k and kindergarten will be full-day and district wide;
● investigate potential non-school sites;
● develop conceptual floor plans for indefinite alignments;
● and develop conceptual site plans for identified alignments
IV. Discussion and action upon report: President Pro Tem DeLucia asked if
the three or four facility plans included building a new school. Gregory Smolley
responded that the four facility program would most likely require a new school,
based on data reviewed, but with the three school model it could be debated whether
it is more economical to renovate a school opposed to building new. Mark
Bettencourt stated he wanted to ensure the Committee fully explains options to the
public.
Mark Kulos made a motion to instruct DRA to focus on studying a three and four
elementary facility programming study. Gregory Carabine seconded. President Pro
Tem DeLucia suggested the committee wait until receiving feedback at the Public
Information Session on April 26, 2022 before pursuing any avenues. Discussion
ensued. The committee discussed holding an additional special meeting in May
following the information session. Mark Kulos and Gregory Carabine withdrew their
motions.
V. Planning for April 26th event: Jim Barrett went through a proposed agenda
for the April 26th Public Information Session based on a 6:30PM start time. Jim
Barrett discussed the types and styles of workshops to be held. Mark Kulos asked if
the city’s recently completed Affordable Housing Study would assist DRA with their
demographic studies. Jim Barrett stated it would and they would provide their
demographer with a copy to see if it influences his observations. Peter Gauthier
asked if the demographer could note if pre-k programs drive any factors other than
the first year of education. Discussion ensued regarding video recording of the
informational session.
VI. Additional Agenda Items: None.
VII. Adjournment: Bill Hull made a motion to adjourn the regular meeting at
7:45 PM. Gregory Carabine seconded. seconded. The chairman called the roll
of members present and all were in favor. The motion passed unanimously.
Respectfully Submitted, Katherine Rose
Agenda
City of Norwich
School Building Committee (2020)
Regular Meeting
Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 6:30pm
At the City Hall, Rm 335
100 Broadway, Norwich CT 06360
Also available virtually via Zoom
See page 2 for instructions.
1. Call to order: Determination of a quorum
2. Approval of minutes from previous meetings.
3. Public Comment if any
4. Update by DRA representatives Jim Barrett and/or Greg Smolley.
5. Discussion and action upon report
6. Planning for April 26th event
7. Anything else to be brought before the committee
8. Adjournment
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