School Building Committee (2020)
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · December 19, 2023
Minutes
School Building Committee (2020)
Regular Meeting
Lower Level, 23 Union Street, Norwich, CT
And via ZOOM
Tuesday, December 19, 2023
6:30 PM
Committee Members Present: Chairman Mark Bettencourt, President Pro Tem Joe DeLucia
(ZOOM), Stacy Gould, William Hull (ZOOM), Gregory Ballassi, Sheila Hayes, Cindy Beauregard,
Mark Kulos and Peter Gauthier (ZOOM).
Committee Members Absent: Christine DiStasio and Gregory Carabine.
Ex-Officio Members Present: Mayor Peter Nystrom; City Purchasing Agent Bob Castronova; and
Superintendent Susan Lessaard (ZOOM).
Consultants Present: Greg Smolley and James Barrett from DRA; Tom Romagnoli from Downes
Construction; and Mike Faenza from CSG.
Citizens Present: Chris Fryxell, David Jarvis, Keith Brothers, Joe Toner, Kimberly Glassman and
Yolanda Rivera.
I.Call to Order and Quorum:
Chairman Mark Bettencourt called the meeting to order at 6:30 PM.
II.Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes: Mark Kulos made a motion to approve the
November 21, 2023 meeting minutes as written. Stacy Gould seconded. The chairman called
the roll of members present and all were in favor. The motion passed unanimously.
III.Public Comment: Chris Fryxell from the Connecticut Chapter of Associated Builders and
Contractors stated that his association, which was made up of merit shop contractors in that
state that work in commercial industrial construction, would like to be invited to present their
position on labor agreements in front of the SBC. Chris Fryxell stated that he spoke with
Chairman Mark Bettencourt who told them that could potentially happen at the January
meeting.
IV.Presentation from David Jarvis et. al. regarding Project Labor Agreements: Keith
Brothers from the Connecticut State Building Trades Council (CSBTC) gave a brief history of
project labor agreements in the state and throughout New England, where a lot of relationships
existed. Keith Brothers explained that a PLA is a pre-hire agreement between the owner of a
project and the New London/Norwich Building Trades Council that sets goals for things such
as local hiring, apprentices, wages and benefits. Keith Brothers stated the PLA helps kickstart
not only job opportunities but careers. Keith Brothers noted the CSBTC would also assist in
facilitating a partnership with the community during what will be one of the largest budget
building projects in the city.
Joe Toner, the executive director of the Connecticut State Building Trades Council, explained
that the specific language in the PLA allows for non-union workers to work on the project and
could contain conditions that ensure residents have the opportunity to work within their
community. Joe Toner stated the CSBTC anticipates that if the city does enter into a PLA it will
re-generate over 20 million dollars in wages and benefits to Norwich residents with a 25%
hiring goal. Joe Toner noted all the opportunities would be prevailing wage jobs with good
benefits. Joe Toner stated the CSBTC offers 4 to 6 year apprenticeship programs within the
trades and collectively spends over 30 million dollars of their own money on training. Joe
Toner continued that the apprentices do not incur any training fees and typically attend school
in the evening after the work day. Joe Toner continued that the goal also would be to
incorporate graduating seniors into the union apprenticeship program and to work one of the
school projects while making prevailing wages and being trained at no cost to them. Joe Toner
showcased photos of different apprenticeship programs on all to see and discussed the high
graduation percentage rates. Joe Toner stated that when an apprentice joins the CSBTC they
also have the opportunity to work for as many signatory contractors that the labor union has
available.
Kimberly Glassman, Director of The Foundation for Fair Contracting of Connecticut, stated
that her labor management organization had operated in the state for 30 years and represented
affiliates of the CSBTC as well as many other groups that support personal labor agreements.
Kimberly Glassman discussed a distributed White House press release from the previous day
regarding President Joe Biden’s executive order requiring that personal labor agreements be
executed on large-scale federal construction projects. Kimberly Glassman also discussed a
report by the Beacon Hill Institute in regards to personal labor agreements, and requested the
credentials of such reports be taken into consideration if the board was to hear a presentation
from Connecticut Chapter of Associated Builders and Contractors. Kimberly Glassman stated
that reports conducted by Michigan State University and Cornell University found that a PLA
did not increase school construction costs. Kimberly Glassman noted that a PLA did not limit
who can bid on a project and that non-union contractors as well as union contracts were able to
place bids when using a PLA. Kimberly Glassman added that Public Act 21-154 which codifies
prevailing wage contractor rates stated that personal labor agreements do not increase project
costs.
Yolanda Riveras, Director of the Connecticut State Building Trades Training Institute
discussed a brief history of the institute that was officially established in 2022. Yolanda Riveras
stated the institute provides opportunities for people of color, women, returning citizens and
opportunity youth. Yolanda Rivers explained that the institute served as a feeder to facilitate
the enrollment process into the unionized workforce. Yolanda Rivers continued that the
institute partners with the CSBTC and each local council, as well as the Joint Apprenticeship
Training Directors Committee of Connecticut and Construction Workers Initiative. Yolanda
Rivera discussed the services offered by the BTTI and the placements and participating
building trades. Yoland Rivera reviewed the career opportunities created for high school
students that were reached while still in school. Yoland Riveras noted that a personal labor
agreement would include all of the discussed community benefits.
Joe Toner pointed out the recent Killingly High School as a successful project that utilized a
PLA, and that due to its success all new municipality work for the town of Killingly was being
put out under a PLA. Joe Toner stated that personal labor agreements were being used in 19
communities in the state. Joe Toner discussed the positives of personal labor agreements
across state projects.
Mark Kulos asked what the percentage goal was for apprentices out of the total workforce and
if it was based on trades. Joe Toner responded he believed it was seven percent per contractor.
Mark Kulos asked if some apprentices were to leave the program would continuous hiring
occur to meet the goal. Joe Toner responded that was correct and the goal percentage could be
included within the PLA. Mark Kulos asked what the timeline was from an apprenticeship to a
master. Joe Toner stated it was an average one to four year process. Stacy Gould asked how
local hires could be guaranteed. Joe Toner responded that the CSBTC takes the number of
Norwich residents that are currently in building trades and begins recruitment from there, and
as jobs ramp up the CSBTC will begin dispatching local workers onto the jobsite through their
contract. David Jarvis noted it was easy to bring people into the work and discussed the
importance in investing in community local workers.
V.Report from CSG: Mike Faenza stated weekly design meets were occurring between the DRA
team and Board of Education administration. Mike Faenza reported that he had been working
with the Norwich Police Department (NPD) to get a better idea of the access to the Greeneville
site from Boswell Avenue. Mike Faenza stated that NPD placed a traffic and speed counter near
the proposed entrance to get preliminary traffic information and he was awaiting that data.
Mike Faenza stated he was also working with Norwich Public Utilities to get a better
understanding of utility costs at the Greeneville site. Mike Faenza reported that an RFP was
drafted for architectural services, depending on if the committee elected to utilize the same
model that was used for conceptual and schematic design with the same firm for the
Greeneville and Stanton projects. Mike Faenza stated he sent out the budget for the master
plan to the estimator to benchmark the cost before progressing further in order to ensure
numbers are accurate. Mike Faenza noted that since the estimate was done in 2022 and the
project would not be complete until 2026 it would be valuable to re-benchmark the cost prior
to approaching the state for a new grant application. Mike Faenza stated that once he received
the budget figures back he would bring the numbers provided to the committee to determine if
there is a variance and why that would be. Mike Faenza noted that additional costs were
incurred for surveying efforts at Greeneville and Stanton, as the proposal didn’t originally
include the entire properties. Mike Faenza stated that DRA would need approval on the
additional expenses of $8,800 for the Greeneville site and $7,200 for the Stanton site to
proceed.
Mark Kulos made a motion to approve the additional expenses, not to exceed $20,000, for
surveying work at the Greeneville and Stanton Elementary School sites. Stacy Gould seconded.
The chairman called the roll of members present and all were in favor. The motion passed
unanimously.
VI.Report from DRA: Greg Smolley reported he met with NPD and the Department of Public
Works to begin discussing the Boswell Avenue access at Greeneville but he had not received the
traffic data back from NPD. Greg Smolley stated that in regards to the additional surveying,
DRA was working to get within five percent of the targeted 80,000 square foot size. Greg
Smolley showed buildable zones of the Greeneville site on screen for all to view. Greg Smolley
explained that the Greeneville site contains three plateaus that reach from Golden Street to
Boswell Avenue and none are large enough to contain all of the work. Greg Smolley stated that
the elevation separations between the sites does not correspond to typical floor-to-floor heights
or building designs. Greg Smolley stated a structure would need to be built between the floors
and added that there was a designated wetland on the site as well. Greg Smolley showed the
overall site plan for a three-story option for Greeneville School on screen for all to view. Greg
Smolley noted the bus loop had moved from its initial spot, which would now serve better for
private vehicles due to the topography. Greg Smolley discussed the various floor plan
components for the school.
Greg Smolley showed the buildable zones for the Stanton school site on screen for all to view,
and noted they were cognizant that the existing building could not be taken offline during
construction. Greg Smolley showed the floor plan for a two story option on screen for all to
view and discussed layout options. Greg Smolley stated DRA was beginning to work on
developing media centers for the school. Greg Smolley discussed the proposed layout of the
space.
Greg Smolley asked members to begin considering potential combined building materials and
thoughts on the exteriors of the building. Greg Smolley showed example photos of buildings
on screen for all to see. Greg Smolley stated the exteriors would need to be discussed at the
January meeting in order to provide direction to Downes Construction.
VII.Report from Downes: Tom Romagnoli stated Downes was gearing up for the schematic design
estimate at the end of January and was looking to resolve logistics at Stanton. Tom Romagnoli
stated they were also getting started on processing the amount of excavation at Greeneville and
will determine if the product can be reused on site.
VIII.Invoices:
● CSG - Greeneville #9 - $10,680.02
Stanton #9 - $10,555.46
Stacy Gould made a motion to approve CSG Invoice #9 for $10,680.02 for Professional
Services rendered November 1, 2023 - November 30, 2023 in regards to the Greeneville
Elementary School project. Cindy Beauregard seconded. The chairman called the roll of
members present and all were in favor. The motion passed unanimously.
Mark Kulos made a motion to approve CSG Invoice #9 for $10,555.46 for Professional
Services rendered November 1, 2023 - November 30, 2023 in regards to the Stanton
Elementary School project. Stacy Gould seconded. The chairman called the roll of
members present and all were in favor. The motion passed unanimously.
● DRA - Greeneville #2 - $87,967.50
Stanton #2 - $96.525.32
Mark Kulos made a motion to approve DRA Invoice #2 for $87,967.50 for Professional
Services rendered November 1, 2023 - November 30, 2023 in regards to the Greeneville
Elementary School project. Stacy Gould seconded. The chairman called the roll of
members present and all were in favor. The motion passed unanimously.
Mark Kulos made a motion to approve DRA Invoice #2 for $96.525.32 for Professional
Services rendered November 1, 2023 - November 30, 2023 in regards to the Stanton
Elementary School project. Stacy Gould seconded. The chairman called the roll of
members present and all were in favor. The motion passed unanimously.
IX.Anything else to be brought before the committee: None.
X.Adjournment: Stacy Gould made a motion to adjourn at 8:28 PM. Sheila Hayes seconded. The
chairman called the roll of members present and all were in favor. The motion passed
unanimously.
Respectfully Submitted, Katherine Rose
Agenda
City of Norwich
School Building Committee (2020)
Regular Meeting
Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 6:30pm
*LOCATION CHANGED*
Lower Level - 23 Union Street, Norwich
And virtually via Zoom
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1. Call to order: Determination of a quorum
2. Approval of minutes from previous meetings
(November 21)
3. Public Comment
4. Presentation from David Jarvis et. al. regarding Project Labor Agreements
5. Report from CSG
6. Report from DRA
7. Report from Downes
8. Invoices:
● CSG - Greeneville #9 - $10,680.02
Stanton #9 - $10,555.46
• DRA - Greeneville #2 - $87,967.50
Stanton #2 - $96.525.32
9. Anything else to be brought before the committee.
10. Adjournment
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