School Building Committee (2020)
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · June 18, 2024
Minutes
School Building Committee (2020)
Regular Meeting
City Hall, R00m 335
100 Broadway, Norwich, CT
And via ZOOM
Tuesday, June 18, 2024
6:30 PM
Committee Members Present: Chairman Mark Bettencourt, President Pro Tem Joe DeLucia,
Alderwoman Stacy Gould, Peter Gauthier, William Hull, Gregory Carabine, Christine DiStasio.
Gregory Ballassi, Sheila Hayes (ZOOM), Mark Kulos and Cindy Beauregard.
Committee Members Absent: None.
Ex-Officio Members Present: Bob Castronova (ZOOM), Mayor Peter Nystrom and Attorney
Michael Driscoll.
Consultants Present: James Barrett and Greg Smolley from DRA; Chip Natsis from Downes
Construction; and Mike Faenza and Jim Guiliano from CSG.
Citizens Present: None.
I.Call to Order and Quorum: Chairman Mark Bettencourt called the meeting to order at 6:32
PM.
II.Public Comment: None.
III.Chairman’s Update: Chairman Mark Bettencourt stated that he met with CSG after seeing the
cost grant applications put forth, which were higher than expected due to the escalation in
building costs. Chairman Bettencourt stated the committee would need to consider how they
would like to address this. Chairman Bettencourt stated it was prudent to bring the City
Manager and City Comptroller in on the issue so he met with John Salomone and Josh Pothier
earlier that day. Chairman Bettencourt stated he also reached out to State Representative
Derrell Wilson and Senator Cathy Osten, but noted the senate was not currently in session.
Chairman Bettencourt stated the school construction project would likely need to go back to
referendum for a reallocation of funds or they may need to consider re-doing the process as a
whole. Chairman Bettencourt noted this could be problematic but there may only be certain
options available. Chairman Bettencourt stated there would not be any action for the
committee to take until November and the determination would be handled by city council
moving forward. Chairman Bettencourt stated he spoke to the CSG team at the meeting with
the City Manager earlier that day and would be asking them to develop an estimate for
Teachers' Memorial Global Studies Magnet Middle School so that the committee would have a
realistic number to move forward with. Chairman Bettencourt stated currently only the
projections for the first three schools were available, which CSG would discuss during their
report. Chairman Bettencourt stated he also met with Mayor Nystrom and Superintendent
Susan Lessard to make them aware of the situation. Chairman Bettencourt noted that all
situations that led the committee to approach the school construction project in the way that
they did still existed. Chairman Bettencourt stated in the initial Master Plan done by DRA an
excessive amount of needed repairs to the existing buildings were identified and those had not
changed. Chairman Bettencourt stated the best chance at addressing the issue would be to get
new budget numbers passed. Chairman Bettencourt asked the teams present for updated
projection numbers for fixing the schools as-is over the next twenty years, which would be
without any reimbursements from the state. Chairman Bettencourt stated the committee
would move forward with the RFP for an architect for the next schools as well as a project
manager for the Uncas School project. Chairman Bettencourt stated he would follow up on the
numbers for Teachers' Memorial Global Studies Magnet Middle School for bond council and
develop a package from there. Chairman Bettencourt stated he was open to all ideas moving
forward.
IV.Approval of Minutes: Chairman Bettencourt amended the agenda to add the approval for the
last month’s meeting minutes. Peter Gauthier made a motion to approve the minutes with an
amendment. Mark Kulos seconded. The chairman called the roll of members present and all
were in favor, other than Gregory Ballassi who abstained. The motion passed.
V.Report from CSG: Mike Faenza provided a project update packet to all members, that was also
presented on screen for all to view. Mike Faenza reported that the design development package
for the Stanton Elementary project was released to Downes Construction for estimating. Mike
Faenza stated that the project was approved at the June 6, 2024 Inlands Wetlands Commission
meeting and the Letter of Map Amendment from FEMA was received and approved by FEMA.
Mike Faenza reported that the design development drawing package estimates from Downes
Construction and Tarbell Construction were due on July 8, 2024 with reconciliation to occur in
the following days. Mike Faenza stated that the Stanton Elementary project would be presented
at the June special meeting of the Commission on City Planning to review special permits
needed. Mike Faenza noted the project budget on the second page of the package provided
contained the original grant application costs, not the new projected costs. Mike Faenza
reported so far $1,140,207.44 had been spent on the Stanton project.
Mike Faenza reported that the updates for the Greeneville project were similar; the design
development package was sent to Downes Construction for estimating and the project was
approved by the Inlands Wetlands Commission at their June 6, 2024 meeting. Mike Faenza
added that the additional subsurface exploratory work was ongoing. Mike Faenza stated the
design development estimates were due on July 8, 2024 with reconciliation to occur July 11 to
July 12, 2024. Mike Faenza stated that the Greeneville project would also be presented at the
June 26, 2024 Commision on City Planning special meeting. Mike Faenza stated that
$1,086,810.03 had been spent so far on the Greeneville project.
Mike Faenza reported that every item for the Moriarty Elementary grant application had been
completed aside from receiving certified signed and sealed minutes from the May 15, 2024
Board of Education meeting for the approval of the educational specifications. Mike Faenza
stated he would get that taken care of this week. Mike Faenza stated all other items required for
the grant application had been signed, vetted through any necessary committees, and the
previous grant application resolutions were in place. Mike Faenza continued that those three
resolutions, that were needed to submit a grant had gone in front of city council, were to allow
the superintendent to submit a grant; authorize the preparation of at least schematic drawings,
schematic cost estimate; and appointing the School Building Committee as the building
committee for the projects. Mike Faenza stated that over the past few weeks CSG had worked
on the grant applications and re-benchmarking the costs from the Master Plan estimate. Mike
Faenza noted the original cost estimate for the John Moriarty Elementary School project was
$64,204,445. Mike Faenza stated the new estimate represented an approximately 16 million
dollar increase. Mike Faenza stated after receiving the certified minutes the next step was to
upload the grant application to the state website. Mike Faenza stated he was looking to do that
by June 26, 2024 ahead of the June 30th deadline.
Mike Faenza stated that the Uncas Elementary School grant application was completed by the
CSG estimator and a copy was included with the provided package. Mike Faenza reported that
the current estimate for the project was $81,802,880 which was higher than the $66,761,215
estimate within the Master Plan.
Mike Faenza stated the first payment request for the Stanton and Greeneville project to the
state for invoices processed through May 31, 2024 had been drafted. Mike Faenza stated CSG
reached out to the state to have the costs input into their system so they could use the payment
request module, and was told the state was unable to input values until after July 1, 2024. Mike
Faenza stated he received sign offs on the packages from the superintendent’s office so as soon
as the project values were input into their system he would submit the package which would
include all of those invoices. Mike Faenza stated the next payment request CSG would make,
which may happen in July, would include all invoices from May 31, 2024 until a cut off date is
set. Mike Faenza stated the current request reimbursement total is approximately 1.5 million
dollars. Discussion ensued.
Mark Kulos asked what the main cost driver was for the increase? Mike Faenza responded it
was due to construction escalation from the time the original estimates were done up until the
current date. Mike Faenza stated the 1.2 million dollar cost difference between from Moriarty
to Uncas grant estimates was due to the logistics of the site and if a building could be evacuated
or not during new construction. Discussion ensued. Mike Faenza noted that understanding
which students would end up at which schools as soon as possible would have an impact on the
building costs, due to the logistics involved.
Mike Faenza stated that the current estimate for the Stanton project with value engineering
was $69,524,124. Mike Faenza stated that the current estimate for the Greeneville project with
cost engineering was $78,938,636. Mike Faenza stated the new grant application estimate for
the Moriarty project was $80,618,358 and the current grant application estimate for the Uncas
project was $81,802,880. Mike Faenza stated that without the middle school, Huntington, or
the remaining balance that were the six projects, the current project total was $310,883,998
dollars. Mike Faenza stated the Master Plan cost estimate for Teachers’, which was now in
question due to construction cost increases, which was $99,530,936 and that Huntington Adult
Education Board of Education Master Plan cost estimate was $25,060,064. Mike Faenza stated
if you were to add the last two costs in, the grand total came to $434,997,998. Mike Faenza
stated this total was over the referendum budget of $385 million by $49,997,998 if the Master
Plan cost estimate for Hungtinton and Teachers’ were included in the numbers. Mark Kulos
clarified this was using the existing numbers and not future projection numbers.
Peter Gauthier made a motion to authorize CSG to spend $9,500 on a cost estimate for the
Teachers' Memorial Global Studies Magnet Middle School site. Greg Ballassi seconded. Jim
Guliano stated they would look at options to renovate and build as new. The chairman called
the roll of members present and all were in favor. The motion passed unanimously.
VI.Report from DRA: James Barrett read the description of services for PSS S-#5 into the record
which stated “The approved wetland filling activities will require notification to the United
States Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) through a Self Verification Notification Form
(SVNF). This is the lowest level of permitting/notification through the USACE. The SVNF will
require a few other items which will include notification to the State Historic Preservation
Office (SHPO) and Tribal Historic Preservation Offices and United States Fish and Wildlife
Service (USFWS) regarding the project. Please note that notifications to SHPO could trigger
the need for cultural/or historic site investigations. Those USFWS will likely require tree
clearing time of year restrictions (TOY) as it relates to the Northern Long Eared Bat which is a
federally endangered species. The TOY for tree clearing typical states that “trees three inches or
greater at breast height shall not be cleared between April 1 and September 30.”” James Barrett
stated this was triggered by the wetlands notification process and the same controls would be
required for the Greeneville project.
Alderwoman Stacy Gould made a motion to authorize professional services supplements S-005
and G-004 to DRA for $4,370 each for the Stanton and Greeneville school projects, totaling
$8,740. Gregory Carabine seconded. The chairman called the roll of members present and all
were in favor. The motion passed unanimously.
James Barrett stated that Mike Faenza covered most of the updates within his report and
reiterated that the design development package was delivered to Downes Construction on June
6, 2024. James Barrett showed an example of the Stanton school package on screen for all to
view. James Barrett stated the package including additional studies, hydrant flow test
information, the LOMA, wetlands assessment and hazardous materials assessment, as all of
those items will affect the cost estimator's consideration. James Barrett stated the package for
Greeneville included the same studies. Jame Barrett stated the subsurface investigation at the
Greeneville site was ongoing and they would share it with the two cost estimators once it was
available. Jamess Barrett reiterated that the projects received approval from the Wetlands
Commission on June 6, 2024 and was seeking approval for special permits from the
Commission on City Planning at their June 26, 2024 meeting. James Barrett showed a sample
of the interior design development package on screen for all to view. James Barrett noted the
additional mechanical and electrical information that was incorporated into the design after
meeting with the school district food service consultant to understand requirements they had
and what was available within the educational specifications. James Barrett displayed the
samples shown on screen for all to view and acoustical functions of proposed cafeteria design
for Greeneville. James Barrett discussed riser and stage sizing consideration for the Stanton
school which was developed after speaking with school administration. Discussion ensued.
James Barrett noted an element that arose from their landscape architect was recognizing
access to the site for a pedestrian walking on Golden Street. James Barrett stated that a sloped
walkway was placed to accomplish this.
VII.Report from Downes: Chip Natsis stated the design development packaged provided to them
will assist in fine tuning their numbers and give them a better idea on what can be refined.
Chip Natsis stated they put drawings out to their consultants to examine the building pricing.
Chip Natsis stated that the Downes estimate and their consultants' estimate would be ready to
submit by Jul 8, 2024. Chip Natsis stated that following that the estimates would be reconciled
and reviewed with each party checking over the other's estimate. Chip Natsis stated the final
estimate would be presented at the next regularly scheduled meeting.
Mark Kulos asked where things stood with the gross infrastructure from the utility company.
Mike Fazena responded that those costs have now been delineated by Norwich Public Utilities.
Chairman Bettencourt added that the Greenville site was already in an enterprise zone but
Stanton was not, and he believes all the schools in the project will be added to the enterprise
zone for a reduced utility cost from NPU following action from city council.
Chairman Bettencourt asked for an update on the RFP for an architect of the Moriarty and
Uncas school projects. Chairman Bettencourt stated he was advised by the city comptroller and
city manager to move forward with the RFP to get numbers together and determine where
things stand. Bob Castronova stated he would begin working on that immediately.
VIII.Invoices: Chairman Mark Bettencourt read the separate invoice and professional service
supplement amounts aloud into the record.
● CSG - Greeneville #15- $10,680.02
Stanton #15- $10,555.46
Moriarty #1 (4/2024)– $19,523.20
Moriarty #2 (5/2024)- $19,523.20
Uncas #1 (4/2024) - $15,000.00
Uncas #2 (5/2024) - $15000.00
● DRA - Greeneville #8 - $186,676.27
Greeneville PSS (Professional Services) #1 - $10,044.10
Greeneville PSS #2 $11,039.47
Greeneville PSS #3 $4,344.13
Stanton #8 - $206,183.30
Stanton PSS #1 – $9,181.96
Stanton PSS #2 – $4,940.69
Stanton PSS #4 - $5,800.31
William Hull made a motion to approve the consent agenda for the above invoices and
professional service supplements. Alderwoman Stacy Gould seconded. The chairman
called the roll of members present and all were in favor. The motion passed
unanimously.
IX.Anything else to be brought before the committee: None.
X.Adjournment: Alderwoman Stacy Gould made a motion to adjourn at 7:46 PM. Peter Gauthier
seconded. The chairman called the roll of members present and all were in favor. The motion
passed unanimously.
Respectfully Submitted, Katherine Rose
Agenda
City of Norwich
School Building Committee (2020)
Regular Meeting
Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 6:30pm
At City Hall, Room 335
100 Broadway
And virtually via Zoom
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1. Call to order: Determination of a quorum
2. Public Comment
3. Report from CSG
4. Report from DRA
5. Report from DownesDiscussion and potential action on RFP’s for
Moriarty and Uncas schools
6. Consent Agenda:
A. Invoices
● CSG - Greeneville #15- $10,680.02
Stanton #15- $10,555.46
Moriarty #1 (4/2024)–$19,523.20
Moriarty #2 (5/2024)- $19,523.20
Uncas #1 (4/2024) - $15,000.00
Uncas #2 (5/2024) - $15,000.00
• DRA - Greeneville #8 - $186,676.27
Greeneville PSS (Professional Services) #1 - $10,044.10
Greeneville PSS #2 $11,039.47
Greeneville PSS #3 $4,344.13
Stanton #8 - $206,183.30
Stanton PSS #1 – $9,181.96
Stanton PSS #2 – $4,940.69
Stanton PSS #4 - $5,800.31
8. Anything else to be brought before the committee.
9. Adjournment
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