Volunteer Firefighter Relief Fund Committee
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · October 8, 2014
Minutes
City of Norwich
Volunteer Firefighters’ Relief Fund Committee Minutes
Special Meeting
October 8, 2014
The Volunteer Firefighters’ Relief Fund Committee held a special meeting on Monday,
October 8, 2014, at 5:00 p.m. in Room 209, City Hall, Norwich, Connecticut.
1. Roll Call
a. Members Present:
Richard Benoit, Taftville
Thomas Quinley, Yantic
Karen Mankowski, Occum
Joshua Pothier, Assistant Comptroller
John John, P&P Board Appointee
Brigid Marks, City of Norwich Human Resource
Gary Evans, City Manager Designee
b. Members Absent:
Brian Curtin, City Treasurer
Robert Aldi, Citizen Appointee
Joseph Kochanski, Laurel Hill
Donald Leary, East Great Plain
Richard Benoit called the meeting to order at 5:05p.m.
2. Minutes: the July 8, 2014 meeting minutes were reviewed. A motion to accept by John John,
seconded by Karen Mankowski. Approved.
3. Treasurer’s Report: Not presented
4. New Business
a. Refund Requests:
i. Joseph Crowley from East Great Plain (EGP) Fire Department requested a
refund. Mr. Crawley has 1 year of service with EGP and $35.14 earned
interest. Motion to approve the refund made by Thomas Quinley,
seconded by John John. Approved.
b. Bills: None
c. New Member Applications: None
d. Application for Benefits:
i. East Great Plain FD – one applicant for benefits, Tim Menard, with
twenty-five (25) years of service as of 2013. Motion made by Thomas
Quinley and seconded by John John to approve the application pending
confirmation of years of service – 26 years at the end of 2014 – payment
to begin January 1, 2015. Approved.
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Volunteer Firefighters’ Relief Fund Committee Minutes
Special Meeting
October 8, 2014
ii. Yantic Fire Department – one applicant for benefits, Thomas Quinley.
Motion made by John John to approve the application for benefits pending
confirmation of twenty-four (24) years of service as of December 31,
2014, with payment to begin March 2015. Seconded by Karen
Mankowski, approved.
e. Joshua Pothier reported on the Benefits funding recommendations from the
Actuarial review for future City contribution to reflect current methodology and
standardization.
i. Codification; mismatch language
1. Any mismatch, revert to original document
2. Action item: Josh to investigate codification for the legal reverting
language.
a. Codification issues may be handled separately from the
ongoing five (5) year Plan enhancement changes in order to
ensure that the changes are ready for City Council review
and approval to support the January 1, 2015 effective date.
f. Ordinance Changes – Discussion ensued amongst Committee members:
i. Brigid Marks, Director of Human Resources, proposed the following:
1. New members would be vested after twenty-five (25) years of
service.
a. This would be the same as the paid fire department which
was changed from twenty (20) years of service to twenty-
five (25) years of service on July 1, 2013, per the paid fire
department’s new contract implementation.
b. This proposal raised concerns over the older age of new
volunteers and their ability to reach that requirement.
2. Child Beneficiary – drop the age from twenty-four (24) to eighteen
(18) years.
a. Discussion ensued regarding death benefits for volunteer
firefighters, “line-of-duty” versus “non-line-of-duty”
deaths.
b. Brigid Marks believes there is “non-line-of-duty” life
insurance death benefits for volunteer firefighters.
i. Action item: Josh Pothier and Brigid Marks to
determine if there is non-line-of-duty life insurance
death benefits for the volunteer firefighters, similar
to that of the paid firefighters. Findings to be
brought back at the next meeting.
3. New members that join the plan after the next revision acceptance
date, would have the maximum years of service be thirty (30),
down from the current forty (40) maximum years of service.
4. Discussion over discrepancies between the volunteer companies’
expenses and benefits versus the paid FD ensued. Committee
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Volunteer Firefighters’ Relief Fund Committee Minutes
Special Meeting
October 8, 2014
members will take the recommendations back to their departments
for further discussion and recommendations.
g. Next special meeting to be held on November 3, 2014 to review recommendations
related to proposed ordinance changes.
h. Next regular scheduled meeting is November 17, 2014.
i. New school bus law. Red Mckeon reported on a new law that went into effect on
October 1, 2014.
i. Law Summary:
1. All vehicles, including emergency response vehicles, must stop for
a school bus displaying flashing red signal lights.
2. The vehicle must stop at least 10 feet ahead or behind dependent
on the direction of travel.
3. After stopping, the emergency vehicle may proceed past the school
bus, as long as the vehicle operator does not endanger life or
property by doing proceeding.
4. The emergency vehicle must use an audible signal and
flashing/revolving lights.
j. 2015 meetings: February 17, May 18, August 17, and November 16.
A motion was made by Joshua Pothier to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Thomas Quinley.
Approved. Meeting adjourned at 1815 hrs.
Respectfully submitted,
Thomas G. Quinley, Secretary
Agenda
City of Norwich
Volunteer Firefighters’ Relief Fund Committee Minutes
Special Meeting
October 8, 2014
The Volunteer Firefighters’ Relief Fund Committee held a special meeting on Wednesday,
October 8, 2014, at 5:00 p.m. in Room 209, City Hall, Norwich, Connecticut.
1. Roll Call
a. Members Present:
Richard Benoit, Taftville
Thomas Quinley, Yantic
Karen Mankowski, Occum
Joshua Pothier, Comptroller
John John, P&P Board Appointee
Brigid Marks, Human Resource Director
Gary Evans, City Manager Designee
Red McKeon, Occum Past Chair
b. Members Absent:
Robert Aldi, Citizen Appointee
Joseph Kochanski, Laurel Hill
Donald Leary, East Great Plain
Richard Benoit called the meeting to order at 5:05p.m.
2. Minutes: the July 8, 2014 meeting minutes were reviewed. A motion to accept by John John,
seconded by Karen Mankowski. Approved.
3. Treasurer’s Report: Not presented
4. New Business
a. Refund Requests:
i. Joseph Crowley from East Great Plain (EGP) Fire Department requested a
refund. Mr. Crowley has 1 year of service with EGP and $35.14 earned
interest. Motion to approve the refund made by Thomas Quinley,
seconded by John John. Approved.
b. Bills: None
c. New Member Applications: None
d. Application for Benefits:
i. East Great Plain FD – one applicant for benefits, Tim Menard, with
twenty-five (25) years of service as of 2013. Motion made by Thomas
Quinley and seconded by John John to approve the application pending
confirmation of years of service – 26 years at the end of 2014 – payment
to begin in January 2015. Approved.
City of Norwich
Volunteer Firefighters’ Relief Fund Committee Minutes
Special Meeting
October 8, 2014
ii. Yantic Fire Department – one applicant for benefits, Thomas Quinley.
Motion made by John John to approve the application for benefits pending
confirmation of twenty-four (24) years of service as of December 31,
2014, with payment to begin March 2015. Seconded by Karen
Mankowski, approved.
e. Joshua Pothier reported on the Benefits funding recommendations from the
Actuarial review for future City contribution to reflect current methodology and
standardization.
i. Codification; mismatch language
1. Any mismatch, revert to original document
2. Action item: Josh to investigate codification for the legal reverting
language.
a. Codification issues may be handled separately from the
ongoing five (5) year Plan enhancement changes in order to
ensure that the changes are ready for City Council review
and approval to support the January 1, 2015 effective date.
f. Ordinance Changes – Discussion ensued amongst Committee members:
i. Brigid Marks, Director of Human Resources, proposed the following:
1. New members would be vested after twenty-five (25) years of
service.
a. This would be the same as the paid fire department which
was changed from twenty (20) years of service to twenty-
five (25) years of service on July 1, 2013, per the paid fire
department’s new contract implementation.
b. This proposal raised concerns over the older age of new
volunteers and their ability to reach that requirement.
2. Child Beneficiary – drop the age from twenty-four (24) to eighteen
(18) years.
a. Discussion ensued regarding death benefits for volunteer
firefighters, “line-of-duty” versus “non-line-of-duty”
deaths.
b. Brigid Marks believes there is “non-line-of-duty” life
insurance death benefits for volunteer firefighters.
i. Action item: Josh Pothier and Brigid Marks to
determine if there is non-line-of-duty life insurance
death benefits for the volunteer firefighters, similar
to that of the paid firefighters. Findings to be
brought back at the next meeting.
3. New members that join the plan after the next revision acceptance
date, would have the maximum years of service be thirty (30),
down from the current forty (40) maximum years of service.
4. Discussion over discrepancies between the volunteer companies’
expenses and benefits versus the paid FD ensued. Committee
City of Norwich
Volunteer Firefighters’ Relief Fund Committee Minutes
Special Meeting
October 8, 2014
members will take the recommendations back to their departments
for further discussion and recommendations.
g. Next special meeting to be held on November 3, 2014 to review recommendations
related to proposed ordinance changes.
h. Next regular scheduled meeting is November 17, 2014.
i. 2015 meetings: February 17, May 18, August 17, and November 16.
A motion was made by Joshua Pothier to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Thomas Quinley.
Approved. Meeting adjourned at 1815 hrs.
Respectfully submitted,
Thomas G. Quinley, Secretary
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