Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · December 9, 2008
Minutes
CITY OF NORWICH
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
December 09, 2008
Meeting Minutes
The regular meeting of the City of Norwich Zoning Board of Appeals was called to order
at 7:00 p.m. Roll call was taken and it was determined that a quorum was present.
PRESENT: Mark Benjamin Henry Olender
Dorothy Travers Santo Rizzuto, Alternate
ABSENT: Raymond Dussault, Paul Kramarewicz, & Joseph Jacaruso, Alternate
ALSO PRESENT: Paulette Craig, Zoning Enforcement Officer
Tianne Phoenix Curtis, Recording Secretary
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E. COMMUNICATIONS
None
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F. ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES
Upon motion by Santo Rizzuto and second by Dorothy Travers, the Board
voted unanimously to accept the November 12, 2008 meeting minutes.
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Chairman Marc Benjamin explained that 4 affirmative votes are required
in order for a variance to be approved. Since there were only 4 members present
(usually there are 5 voting members), applicants will have the opportunity to
choose either to heard tonight, knowing that all 4 members would have to vote in
the affirmative, or to be heard at the next meeting, in hopes that there will be 5
voting members.
G. OLD BUSINESS
#V-08-37 Appeal of Sunny Waters LLC for property at 252 Old Canterbury
Turnpike, located in an R-80 zone district. Appeal of ZEO’s interpretation
of CT Public Act #07-43 regarding the replacement of existing mobile homes.
Seated were Marc Benjamin, Dorothy Travers, Henry Olender and Santo
Rizzuto.
Mr. Cohen, applicant, stated that he wished to be heard at the next ZBA
meeting. The Public Hearing was not opened.
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H. NEW BUSINESS
#V-08-40 Appeal Bethsaida Community Inc. for property at Clairmont
Avenue, located in an MF zone district. In accordance with Sec. 8.3.2(b)
Rooming House, reduce separating distance from 1500’ to 113’ in order to
convert a convent to a rooming house.
Paulette Craig entered into the record as Exhibit “A”, the application, as
“B”, public notices of 11/26/08 & 12/03/08; as “C”, abutters’ notices; as “D”,
Assessor’s street card; as “E”, GIS map; as “F”, request regarding use of building
from St. Joseph’s Church; and as “G”, agreement to rent building to Bethsaida
from St. Joseph’s Church.
Chairman Marc Benjamin opened the floor to those wishing to speak in
favor of the application.
Claire Silva, Executive Director for Bethsaida Community, 225 Main
Street, spoke in favor. Ms. Silva stated that the Katie Blair House (KBH) has
been in service for over 20 years, and feels this is a win-win situation for both
KBH and St. Joseph’s Church. Ms. Silva submitted a brochure of services for
Bethsaida Community, Inc., which was marked as Exhibit “H.” Ms. Silva stated
that the women that come into the KBH program enter typically jobless and
homeless, and the proposed rooming house would be for those women that have
graduated the KBH program and are ready for independent living, however will
benefit from additional supportive services such as advocacy and job assistance.
Ms. Silva noted that it is not a substance abuse facility and staff would be shared
between the two locations. Ms. Silva stated that the reason for the variance
application is that the convent and KBH are only 113’ apart opposed to the
required 1500’.
Father Tomasz Sztuber of the St. Joseph Polish Roman Catholic Church,
Clairmont Avenue, spoke in favor. Father Tomasz stated that the convent has
been empty for over a year, and as the applicant has shown interest, he is of the
opinion that the agreement will be mutually beneficial. Marc Benjamin asked if
the intention of the Church was to maintain ownership or to transfer the property.
Father Tomasz responded that the Church intends to lease with the possibility of a
future sale, pending advice of the Bishops’ office. Father Tomasz stated that
there has been no vocational demand for nuns to live at the convent.
Robert Davidson, 119 Cedar Street, spoke in favor. Mr. Davidson stated
that he was of the opinion the KBH program had a long and distinguished record,
and that graduates of the program leave more stable, employed and with ties to
the community.
Brenda Thibeault, Finance Manager for Bethsaida Community, 225 Main
Street, spoke in favor. Ms. Thibeault stated that their program is very well run,
and restated that the rooms of the proposed facility would be for KBH graduates
only, not new entries. Ms. Thibeault noted that the program gives the women life
skills to be more productive citizens, and that the program would not create a
dangerous situation.
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Angela George, member of the Board of Directors for Bethsaida
Community, 225 Main Street, spoke in favor, and stated that by leasing the
property from the church, it will in turn allow the program to pursue financial
support through grants.
Nancy Dorman, 179 Dunham Street, spoke in opposition. Ms. Dorman
presented the following concerns and questions through Chairman Marc
Benjamin:
1. What constitutes a graduate of the program?
2. How long will a resident be able to live at the proposed facility?
3. What is the percentage of success vs. failures?
4. What securities will be given to the abutting St. Joseph’s School
students?
5. Will the use of the building change if Bethsaida becomes the property
owner?
Chairman Marc Benjamin asked Ms. Dorman if it was accurate to say that her
overall concern is for the safety of the students and staff of the school. Ms
Dorman replied that it was accurate.
Kelly Gada, member of the Board of the St. Joseph’s School, 120 Cliff
Street, spoke in opposition. Ms. Gada stated that she shared Ms. Dorman’s
serious concerns for the schoolchildren’s safety, additionally because the area
where the children play shares a property line with the address in question. Ms.
Gada noted that there is an existing paved area that is used for recreation by the
school, and questioned where the residents of the proposed rooming house would
park if they had vehicles.
Claire Silva rebutted, stating that a criminal background check is done for
all women entering the program, and a graduate would have a minimum of 6
months in the program, be holding a full-time job, and show an empowered
personality and responsibility with assigned chores. Ms. Silva stated that 75% of
the program’s women are mothers themselves, and while some may not fit with
the program’s vision, they weed themselves out while with the KBH, not as a
KBH graduate. Ms. Silva responded that while most residents don’t have
vehicles, they, as well as staff, would be required to park at the KBH and cross
the street. Additionally, Ms. Silva stated that when the KBH has hosted special
events, they have asked for permission from the Church to use their parking
facility. Ms Silva responded that if the program receives Federal HUD funding,
the maximum time a resident would be able to stay at the proposed facility would
be two years, and that if Bethsaida were to take ownership of the property, they
would not change the focus of their mission. Chairman Marc Benjamin
questioned Ms. Silva as to whether she felt Bethsaida was expanding or
intensifying their program. Ms. Silva replied that they would be increasing the
number of women they could serve per year.
Santo Rizzuto asked if Ms. Silva could provide actual numbers suggesting
their success rate. Ms. Silva stated that a month ago, women entering the
program had an average income of $82.00/month; now employed full-time and
with life skills, they have an average income of $1000.00/month. Paulette Craig
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noted that success could be interpreted differently, if considered an increase in
income; the success rate would be 100%. Chairman Marc Benjamin requested
that Bethsaida provide the Board with a clear percentage of women that come to
participate that actually completes the program. Ms. Silva responded that she
would be able to provide that to the Board.
Henry Olender asked Ms. Silva if the Board were to entertain a motion to
continue, would Bethsaida be willing to meet with the parents, Diocese and Board
members about potential precautions and/or conditions. Ms. Silva responded that
they would be pleased to.
Upon motion by Santo Rizzuto and second by Henry Olender, the Board
voted unanimously to CONTINUE the hearing to the 01/13/09 regular meeting.
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#V-08-41 Appeal of Church of Christ for property at 207 Central Avenue,
located in an MF zone district. In accordance with Sec 8.3.1, Permitted Use,
and Sec. 15.1.11, Parking, 17 spaces required to be reduced to 0 spaces in
order to convert 832 SF from storefront to church.
Paulette Craig reported to the Board that the aforementioned application
would be before the Commission on the City Plan at their 12/16/08 regular
meeting as a Use Variance referral. Upon motion by Santo Rizzuto and second
by Marc Benjamin, the Board voted unanimously to CONTINUE the hearing to
the 01/13/09 regular meeting.
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I. DISCUSSION/DECISION ON APPLICATIONS
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J. OTHER MATTERS
Chairman Marc Benjamin reported that he had attended the 11/19/08
Zoning workshop, and found it informative. There was a brief discussion of
where the ZBA falls in the process of approvals, and the importance of opening
communication between ZBA and both City Council (Zoning authority) and the
Commission on the City Plan. Chairman Marc Benjamin additionally noted the
ZBA’s duty to break the rules, but emphasized that it should always be a difficult
decision.
K. ADJOURNMENT
Upon motion by Santo Rizzuto and second by Marc Benjamin, the Board
voted unanimously to adjourn at 7:54 pm.
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Respectfully submitted,
Paulette Craig, Secretary
Zoning Board of Appeals
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Agenda
CITY OF NORWICH
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
Tuesday, December 9, 2008
7:00PM
A. Call to Order
B. Pledge of Allegiance
C. Roll Call
D. Determination of Quorum
E. Communications
F. Acceptance of Minutes of November 12, 2008 meeting
G. Old Business
#V-08-37 Appeal of Sunny Waters LLC for property at 252 Old Canterbury Turnpike,
located in an R-80 zone district. Appeal of ZEO’s interpretation of CT Public Act #07-43
regarding the replacement of existing mobile homes.
H. New Business
#V-08-40 Appeal Bethsaida Community Inc. for property at Clairmont Avenue, located in
an MF zone district. In accordance with Sec. 8.3.2(b) Rooming House, reduce separating
distance from 1500’ to 113’ in order to convert a convent to a rooming house.
#V-08-41 Appeal of Church of Christ for property at 207 Central Avenue, located in an MF
zone district. In accordance with Sec 8.3.1, Permitted Use, and Sec. 15.1.11, Parking, 17
spaces required to be reduced to 0 spaces in order to convert 832 SF from storefront to
church.
I. Discussion/Decisions on Applications
J. Other Matters
K. Adjournment
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